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On August 05 2011 00:27 OsoVega wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 00:25 Chargelot wrote:On August 05 2011 00:21 OsoVega wrote:On August 05 2011 00:19 Chargelot wrote:On August 05 2011 00:14 Morfildur wrote:On August 05 2011 00:08 OsoVega wrote:
It is possible this is just someone not being aware of the campus rules. People accidentally carry guns into places where it is prohibited, somewhat often. I would assume it happens a lot more in the US since guns are allowed. Yeah, it might not be common to carry them around, but since the gun laws allow for them, why is it so bad that someone carries one? Yes, the specific place is... well, not exactly the best place to carry a gun around, but there is always the one guy who is just oblivious to the past and the rules or just doesn't care. Well, i still really hope it's just a stupid guy and that there are no malicious intentions - idiocy is often hard to discern from malignance. Gun laws in America are rather extensive. It's not as simple as "everyone can have guns everywhere all the time." It's not a light switch where you say "guns yes" or "guns no". The idea of gun ownership in America is also not about having them on you at all times and in all places. It is handled by state law, but typically it is illegal for a person so have a firearm out in public. Many times it can only be off your property when it is in a gun case, and unloaded. Of course that doesn't apply in designated hunting locations, but in suburbia/the city/anything but the forest or desert, it's pretty much always a crime to have a gun out in public. Not true at all. Most states issue concealed carry permits. A CCP isn't the super exclusive right to do whatever you want with your gun whenever you want. Not only is it made very difficult to get in most states, but you still CAN NOT take your gun out in public. It's concealed carry, not "wave it around in public" carry. Was it implied in the article that the man was waving it around or had even drawn it?
It was implied that it was visible. If it was on his ankle, in his pocket, or in a concealed holster, it would not have said "it was under a cloth". It would have said "it was under his pants, on his ankle" or "it was under his shirt".
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Clearly a false report. No gunman could be on campus, since it's a gun free zone.
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On August 05 2011 00:29 BlackJack wrote:
Clearly a false report. No gunman could be on campus, since it's a gun free zone.
Over 5000 troll posts and counting.
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Again o.o? Hopefully this one will end up better 
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On August 04 2011 23:36 zev318 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 23:34 Craton wrote:
I wonder if the preventative measures they have supposedly implemented since 2007 will be used effectively. like calling the cops. how do you prevent this exactly?
By everyone having guns. If everyone is rockin with concealed carry, the nutjobs get gunned down quickly.
Cops are a joke. If you think otherwise, i will assume you have not dealed with them. Convince me otherwise, please.
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On August 05 2011 00:16 OsoVega wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 00:13 Parsistamon wrote:
Any updates? I really hope this doesn't happen again.
What drives people to massacre each other like this? What is wrong with them? I will never understand. "like this"? Someone may or may not be carrying a gun. There is no need for responses like yours. It's like saying "Oh, God, fires claiming innocent lives is such a tragic thing!" in response to a fire bell being pulled.
There was no need for your response either, it's blatantly clear from the first line in his post that he is full aware no one has been shot as of yet.
It shouldn't come as a surprise that a potential gunman at a school brings up certain emotions either.
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On August 05 2011 00:29 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 00:27 OsoVega wrote:On August 05 2011 00:25 Chargelot wrote:On August 05 2011 00:21 OsoVega wrote:On August 05 2011 00:19 Chargelot wrote:On August 05 2011 00:14 Morfildur wrote:On August 05 2011 00:08 OsoVega wrote:
It is possible this is just someone not being aware of the campus rules. People accidentally carry guns into places where it is prohibited, somewhat often. I would assume it happens a lot more in the US since guns are allowed. Yeah, it might not be common to carry them around, but since the gun laws allow for them, why is it so bad that someone carries one? Yes, the specific place is... well, not exactly the best place to carry a gun around, but there is always the one guy who is just oblivious to the past and the rules or just doesn't care. Well, i still really hope it's just a stupid guy and that there are no malicious intentions - idiocy is often hard to discern from malignance. Gun laws in America are rather extensive. It's not as simple as "everyone can have guns everywhere all the time." It's not a light switch where you say "guns yes" or "guns no". The idea of gun ownership in America is also not about having them on you at all times and in all places. It is handled by state law, but typically it is illegal for a person so have a firearm out in public. Many times it can only be off your property when it is in a gun case, and unloaded. Of course that doesn't apply in designated hunting locations, but in suburbia/the city/anything but the forest or desert, it's pretty much always a crime to have a gun out in public. Not true at all. Most states issue concealed carry permits. A CCP isn't the super exclusive right to do whatever you want with your gun whenever you want. Not only is it made very difficult to get in most states, but you still CAN NOT take your gun out in public. It's concealed carry, not "wave it around in public" carry. Was it implied in the article that the man was waving it around or had even drawn it? It was implied that it was visible. If it was on his ankle, in his pocket, or in a concealed holster, it would not have said "it was under a cloth". It would have said "it was under his pants, on his ankle" or "it was under his shirt".
Still, legal outside of campus. I'm not saying for sure that this man was simply unaware of the rules for the campus, just that it is a possibility.
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On August 05 2011 00:34 xarthaz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 23:36 zev318 wrote:On August 04 2011 23:34 Craton wrote:
I wonder if the preventative measures they have supposedly implemented since 2007 will be used effectively. like calling the cops. how do you prevent this exactly? By everyone having guns. If everyone is rockin with concealed carry, the nutjobs get gunned down quickly.
Yes, we get it, you support the left wing. Make your own thread about gun laws, don't troll someone's already existing one.
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On August 05 2011 00:35 OsoVega wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 00:29 Chargelot wrote:On August 05 2011 00:27 OsoVega wrote:On August 05 2011 00:25 Chargelot wrote:On August 05 2011 00:21 OsoVega wrote:On August 05 2011 00:19 Chargelot wrote:On August 05 2011 00:14 Morfildur wrote:On August 05 2011 00:08 OsoVega wrote:
It is possible this is just someone not being aware of the campus rules. People accidentally carry guns into places where it is prohibited, somewhat often. I would assume it happens a lot more in the US since guns are allowed. Yeah, it might not be common to carry them around, but since the gun laws allow for them, why is it so bad that someone carries one? Yes, the specific place is... well, not exactly the best place to carry a gun around, but there is always the one guy who is just oblivious to the past and the rules or just doesn't care. Well, i still really hope it's just a stupid guy and that there are no malicious intentions - idiocy is often hard to discern from malignance. Gun laws in America are rather extensive. It's not as simple as "everyone can have guns everywhere all the time." It's not a light switch where you say "guns yes" or "guns no". The idea of gun ownership in America is also not about having them on you at all times and in all places. It is handled by state law, but typically it is illegal for a person so have a firearm out in public. Many times it can only be off your property when it is in a gun case, and unloaded. Of course that doesn't apply in designated hunting locations, but in suburbia/the city/anything but the forest or desert, it's pretty much always a crime to have a gun out in public. Not true at all. Most states issue concealed carry permits. A CCP isn't the super exclusive right to do whatever you want with your gun whenever you want. Not only is it made very difficult to get in most states, but you still CAN NOT take your gun out in public. It's concealed carry, not "wave it around in public" carry. Was it implied in the article that the man was waving it around or had even drawn it? It was implied that it was visible. If it was on his ankle, in his pocket, or in a concealed holster, it would not have said "it was under a cloth". It would have said "it was under his pants, on his ankle" or "it was under his shirt". Still, legal outside of campus. I'm not saying for sure that this man was simply unaware of the rules for the campus, just that it is a possibility.
I challenge you to get a concealed carry permit, and draw your pistol in a city, in front of multiple police officers. I promise you it is not legal to have your gun OUT in public. Not outside of your house, drawn.
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Wow I really hope this isnt true... scary thoughts man.
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On August 05 2011 00:37 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 00:35 OsoVega wrote:On August 05 2011 00:29 Chargelot wrote:On August 05 2011 00:27 OsoVega wrote:On August 05 2011 00:25 Chargelot wrote:On August 05 2011 00:21 OsoVega wrote:On August 05 2011 00:19 Chargelot wrote:On August 05 2011 00:14 Morfildur wrote:On August 05 2011 00:08 OsoVega wrote:
It is possible this is just someone not being aware of the campus rules. People accidentally carry guns into places where it is prohibited, somewhat often. I would assume it happens a lot more in the US since guns are allowed. Yeah, it might not be common to carry them around, but since the gun laws allow for them, why is it so bad that someone carries one? Yes, the specific place is... well, not exactly the best place to carry a gun around, but there is always the one guy who is just oblivious to the past and the rules or just doesn't care. Well, i still really hope it's just a stupid guy and that there are no malicious intentions - idiocy is often hard to discern from malignance. Gun laws in America are rather extensive. It's not as simple as "everyone can have guns everywhere all the time." It's not a light switch where you say "guns yes" or "guns no". The idea of gun ownership in America is also not about having them on you at all times and in all places. It is handled by state law, but typically it is illegal for a person so have a firearm out in public. Many times it can only be off your property when it is in a gun case, and unloaded. Of course that doesn't apply in designated hunting locations, but in suburbia/the city/anything but the forest or desert, it's pretty much always a crime to have a gun out in public. Not true at all. Most states issue concealed carry permits. A CCP isn't the super exclusive right to do whatever you want with your gun whenever you want. Not only is it made very difficult to get in most states, but you still CAN NOT take your gun out in public. It's concealed carry, not "wave it around in public" carry. Was it implied in the article that the man was waving it around or had even drawn it? It was implied that it was visible. If it was on his ankle, in his pocket, or in a concealed holster, it would not have said "it was under a cloth". It would have said "it was under his pants, on his ankle" or "it was under his shirt". Still, legal outside of campus. I'm not saying for sure that this man was simply unaware of the rules for the campus, just that it is a possibility. I challenge you to get a concealed carry permit, and draw your pistol in a city, in front of multiple police officers. I promise you it is not legal to have your gun OUT in public. Not outside of your house, drawn.
Did I ever say drawn?
"It was implied that it was visible".
My response, "Still, legal outside of campus".
Visible does not mean drawn. Visible is in fact legal in Virginia. You don't need to conceal it.
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On August 05 2011 00:34 xarthaz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 23:36 zev318 wrote:On August 04 2011 23:34 Craton wrote:
I wonder if the preventative measures they have supposedly implemented since 2007 will be used effectively. like calling the cops. how do you prevent this exactly? By everyone having guns. If everyone is rockin with concealed carry, the nutjobs get gunned down quickly. Cops are a joke. If you think otherwise, i will assume you have not dealed with them. Convince me otherwise, please.
You know..if it's not your long winded, haughty posts it's batshit insanity...I'm starting to get you now.
At least you can actually, effectively communicate. I was almost fooled.
Although, hey, let's keep with these broad, sweeping generalizations of an entire countries police force. I like this style too.
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Be safe everyone hopefully reading these forums gets the info out to you
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Kennigit
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I'm really tired and need to go sleep.
Shut the fuck up derailing this. Tell your friends about this if they are in the area. I dont want to hear your gun debate drivel. Im just IP banning everyone who continues it.
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Schools go on lockdown all the time for stuff like this. The only reason this is news is because it's VTech and the media knows it can hype this story because people will be interested in it.
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Kennigit
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Irrelevant derailing post. If its nothing, then we will find out soon and close the thread. Otherwise shut it.
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A question regarding the alert system. Why not just a simple speaker broadcast system around the campus, since it easily beats text messages/email anyday.
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On August 05 2011 00:45 furymonkey wrote:
A question regarding the alert system. Why not just a simple speaker broadcast system around the campus, since it easily beats text messages/email anyday.
Could spook the alleged gun carrier.
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I really hope that there isn't a repeat of 2007; the events then were really tragic and a repeat would be even more traumatic for the people of that school and the surrounding area. =\
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On August 05 2011 00:45 furymonkey wrote:
A question regarding the alert system. Why not just a simple speaker broadcast system around the campus, since it easily beats text messages/email anyday.
I know that Delaware Technical and Community College has one of these systems. I think some combination of the two would be best, because people who live off campus may still try to go to class in the afternoon.
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