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masami.sc
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States445 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 20:27:42
August 04 2011 14:32 GMT
#1
Update:

The police have searched the campus extensively, but the reported gunman was nowhere to be found. It seems that they are still being cautious, but the lockdown has been lifted for now.

SOURCE: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-08-04-virginia-tech-lockdown_n.htm

A person with a gun was spotted in Virginia Tech near Dietrick Dining Hall this morning at 9:30 AM.

Everyone, please be safe! And get the word out, especially if you are at VT - this hasn't been covered by the news yet.

Virginia Tech, the site of a 2007 massacre, has issued an alert saying someone is possibly carrying a weapon on campus.

Regular classes aren't in session at the moment, but there is summer school. The university in Blacksburg, Virginia, is asking people on campus to stay inside and secure doors. The person was spotted near Dietrick Dining Hall.

In April 2007, Cho Seung-Hui, 23, shot dead 32 people on campus before killing himself.


SOURCE: http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/04/gunman-reported-at-virginia-tech/?hpt=hp_t2

http://www.vt.edu/
mmmmm...
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17243 Posts
August 04 2011 14:34 GMT
#2
I wonder if the preventative measures they have supposedly implemented since 2007 will be used effectively.
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EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
August 04 2011 14:34 GMT
#3
not again..
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TheGlassface
Profile Joined November 2010
United States612 Posts
August 04 2011 14:34 GMT
#4
Again?
Shit man...can we all just stop shooting each other.
Be safe everyone! Hope this doesn't end badly...
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PolSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States634 Posts
August 04 2011 14:35 GMT
#5
Hopefully it's just a false report/troll report. They have to take everything considering the safety of the people on campus seriously.
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
August 04 2011 14:35 GMT
#6
Holy shit not again.........
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Nimla
Profile Joined August 2011
35 Posts
August 04 2011 14:35 GMT
#7
*crosses fingers* Please don't let it be a Muslim.

In all seriousness hopefully no one gets killed.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
August 04 2011 14:36 GMT
#8
Damn, why this school again?! That's crazy.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
August 04 2011 14:36 GMT
#9
On August 04 2011 23:34 Craton wrote:
I wonder if the preventative measures they have supposedly implemented since 2007 will be used effectively.


like calling the cops.

how do you prevent this exactly?
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
August 04 2011 14:38 GMT
#10
At first I thought the last thread was bumped...but I serious hope everybody will be safe.
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
August 04 2011 14:41 GMT
#11
On August 04 2011 23:36 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 23:34 Craton wrote:
I wonder if the preventative measures they have supposedly implemented since 2007 will be used effectively.


like calling the cops.

how do you prevent this exactly?


It's more about alerting and general security measures.

It's commonplace now for these types of alerts to be text messaged to all students and faculty, as well as the parents and other emergency contacts. Automated calling machines also call all of these numbers to warn people. If you know there is a gunman on campus, you don't walk around like its perfectly safe. You stay hidden, and then the cops will have an easy time finding the odd man out, ie, the one who is still outside.

Information is the difference between life and death.
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thee telescopes
Profile Joined August 2010
321 Posts
August 04 2011 14:43 GMT
#12
Really hope this turns out to be bullshit.
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
August 04 2011 14:45 GMT
#13
On August 04 2011 23:34 TheGlassface wrote:
Again?
Shit man...can we all just stop shooting each other.
Be safe everyone! Hope this doesn't end badly...

the day human beings realize they are all relatives, since they are from the same planet in a universe of billions of more planet, yes its a long shot but think about it. When that day happens, years 100 at least, later, people will stop killing eachother because it will take time to weed out the idiots that still survive. Till then........ this is what we will have to deal with for hundreds of years to come.
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Klunssila
Profile Joined December 2010
United States220 Posts
August 04 2011 14:46 GMT
#14
Really seems like a false alarm.
hysterial
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2044 Posts
August 04 2011 14:48 GMT
#15
While it may seem like a false alarm, please take every precaution necessary. A preventable incident is not acceptable.
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
August 04 2011 14:48 GMT
#16
On August 04 2011 23:46 Klunssila wrote:
Really seems like a false alarm.


... Based on?
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Teras
Profile Joined August 2010
Great Britain103 Posts
August 04 2011 14:55 GMT
#17
On August 04 2011 23:48 Chargelot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 23:46 Klunssila wrote:
Really seems like a false alarm.


... Based on?



From VT website: "Officers responded immediately to the area but found no one matching the description. Police have encountered no other witnesses reporting this individual or anything suspicious. Law enforcement officers from VTPD, Blacksburg PD, Christiansburg PD, Virginia State Police, and Montgomery County Sheriff's Office are patrolling the campus, continuing to look for the subject. "
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Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
August 04 2011 14:58 GMT
#18
^Based on the information looks like someone "looked like" he had a gun? still a nice job to have police over fast before anything would happend.
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dondo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States53 Posts
August 04 2011 14:58 GMT
#19
Lets not take to the streets yet. First of all someone with a gun is not a gunman by the definition of the virginia tech guy in 2007. People are allowed to carry weapons in va, on school campuses they are not allowed but there is still really nothing more then the word of the 3 students yet. Also if there is a gunman again by this point the whole campus is being locked down so lets wait for a story.
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Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 15:03:09
August 04 2011 14:59 GMT
#20
On August 04 2011 23:55 Teras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 23:48 Chargelot wrote:
On August 04 2011 23:46 Klunssila wrote:
Really seems like a false alarm.


... Based on?



From VT website: "Officers responded immediately to the area but found no one matching the description. Police have encountered no other witnesses reporting this individual or anything suspicious. Law enforcement officers from VTPD, Blacksburg PD, Christiansburg PD, Virginia State Police, and Montgomery County Sheriff's Office are patrolling the campus, continuing to look for the subject. "


Who wheres a vertical striped shirt?

Yeah, I hope it was a false alarm then. It doesn't necessarily mean it is, but I really hope it is.

On August 04 2011 23:58 Mawi wrote:
^Based on the information looks like someone "looked like" he had a gun? still a nice job to have police over fast before anything would happend.


Agreed. At the very least we know they are able and prepared for such situations.

On August 04 2011 23:58 dondo wrote:
Lets not take to the streets yet. First of all someone with a gun is not a gunman by the definition of the virginia tech guy in 2007. People are allowed to carry weapons in va, on school campuses they are not allowed but there is still really nothing more then the word of the 3 students yet. Also if there is a gunman again by this point the whole campus is being locked down so lets wait for a story.


The definition of a gunman, according to my handy dictionary, is a criminal with a gun. If he has a gun on campus, he is breaking the law, which makes him a criminal. Circular logic arguments aside, I'm pretty sure that would make him a gunman. He's not a shooter, but he'd definitely be a gunman.
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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
August 04 2011 14:59 GMT
#21
On August 04 2011 23:35 Telcontar wrote:
Holy shit not again.........


yeah, my first thought was someone's bumped an ancient thread
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Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
August 04 2011 15:02 GMT
#22
Let's hope it's a false alarm or something...
Navichi
Profile Joined July 2011
49 Posts
August 04 2011 15:04 GMT
#23
An expert on BBC said that after almost every one of these big shootings - within one month - there is a 'copycat', let's pray this isn't one of those cases.
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OsoVega
Profile Joined December 2010
926 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 15:08:59
August 04 2011 15:08 GMT
#24
It is possible this is just someone not being aware of the campus rules. People accidentally carry guns into places where it is prohibited, somewhat often.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 04 2011 15:09 GMT
#25
So.. are we discussing news that is yet to happen?
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OsoVega
Profile Joined December 2010
926 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 15:11:55
August 04 2011 15:09 GMT
#26
On August 05 2011 00:09 Probe1 wrote:
So.. are we discussing news that is yet to happen?

And likely won't happen. Someone maybe carrying a gun in a place where guns aren't allowed is hardly a news worthy thing. The only reason anyone reported this is because the title will probably draw views due to the past shooting there.
ReturnStroke
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States801 Posts
August 04 2011 15:10 GMT
#27
Oh no. Hopefully everyone is/will be ok. We don't need more of this.
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 15:13:38
August 04 2011 15:12 GMT
#28
On August 05 2011 00:09 Probe1 wrote:
So.. are we discussing news that is yet to happen?


I suppose we could discuss the security measures taken to save lives in these situations.

In the University of Delaware, I get a text message and a call twice a semester from the automated alert system to ensure it is working properly (scares the shit out of me every time it happens too). Does anyone enrolled in a university not get these test messages?

On August 04 2011 23:58 dondo wrote:
Lets not take to the streets yet. First of all someone with a gun is not a gunman by the definition of the virginia tech guy in 2007. People are allowed to carry weapons in va, on school campuses they are not allowed but there is still really nothing more then the word of the 3 students yet. Also if there is a gunman again by this point the whole campus is being locked down so lets wait for a story.



I heard views in team liquid threads mattered.
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Parsistamon
Profile Joined July 2010
United States390 Posts
August 04 2011 15:13 GMT
#29
Any updates? I really hope this doesn't happen again.

What drives people to massacre each other like this? What is wrong with them? I will never understand.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
August 04 2011 15:14 GMT
#30
On August 05 2011 00:08 OsoVega wrote:
It is possible this is just someone not being aware of the campus rules. People accidentally carry guns into places where it is prohibited, somewhat often.


I would assume it happens a lot more in the US since guns are allowed.
Yeah, it might not be common to carry them around, but since the gun laws allow for them, why is it so bad that someone carries one?
Yes, the specific place is... well, not exactly the best place to carry a gun around, but there is always the one guy who is just oblivious to the past and the rules or just doesn't care.

Well, i still really hope it's just a stupid guy and that there are no malicious intentions - idiocy is often hard to discern from malignance.
OsoVega
Profile Joined December 2010
926 Posts
August 04 2011 15:16 GMT
#31
On August 05 2011 00:13 Parsistamon wrote:
Any updates? I really hope this doesn't happen again.

What drives people to massacre each other like this? What is wrong with them? I will never understand.

"like this"? Someone may or may not be carrying a gun. There is no need for responses like yours. It's like saying "Oh, God, fires claiming innocent lives is such a tragic thing!" in response to a fire bell being pulled.
Darkalbino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia410 Posts
August 04 2011 15:18 GMT
#32
Fuck.
"I edited it"
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 15:20:47
August 04 2011 15:19 GMT
#33
On August 05 2011 00:14 Morfildur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 00:08 OsoVega wrote:
It is possible this is just someone not being aware of the campus rules. People accidentally carry guns into places where it is prohibited, somewhat often.


I would assume it happens a lot more in the US since guns are allowed.
Yeah, it might not be common to carry them around, but since the gun laws allow for them, why is it so bad that someone carries one?
Yes, the specific place is... well, not exactly the best place to carry a gun around, but there is always the one guy who is just oblivious to the past and the rules or just doesn't care.

Well, i still really hope it's just a stupid guy and that there are no malicious intentions - idiocy is often hard to discern from malignance.


Gun laws in America are rather extensive. It's not as simple as "everyone can have guns everywhere all the time."

It's not a light switch where you say "guns yes" or "guns no". The idea of gun ownership in America is also not about having them on you at all times and in all places.

It is handled by state law, but typically it is illegal for a person to have a firearm out in public. Many times it can only be off your property when it is in a gun case, and unloaded. Of course that doesn't apply in designated hunting locations, but in suburbia/the city/anything but the forest or desert, it's pretty much always a crime to have a gun out in public.
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XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
August 04 2011 15:20 GMT
#34
Holy shit.

False alarm, please!
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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
August 04 2011 15:20 GMT
#35
Crap. I was hoping this was an old thread from the 2007 shooting being bumped. Hopefully everyone will be safe.
OsoVega
Profile Joined December 2010
926 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 15:24:28
August 04 2011 15:21 GMT
#36
On August 05 2011 00:19 Chargelot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 00:14 Morfildur wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:08 OsoVega wrote:
It is possible this is just someone not being aware of the campus rules. People accidentally carry guns into places where it is prohibited, somewhat often.


I would assume it happens a lot more in the US since guns are allowed.
Yeah, it might not be common to carry them around, but since the gun laws allow for them, why is it so bad that someone carries one?
Yes, the specific place is... well, not exactly the best place to carry a gun around, but there is always the one guy who is just oblivious to the past and the rules or just doesn't care.

Well, i still really hope it's just a stupid guy and that there are no malicious intentions - idiocy is often hard to discern from malignance.


Gun laws in America are rather extensive. It's not as simple as "everyone can have guns everywhere all the time."

It's not a light switch where you say "guns yes" or "guns no". The idea of gun ownership in America is also not about having them on you at all times and in all places.

It is handled by state law, but typically it is illegal for a person so have a firearm out in public. Many times it can only be off your property when it is in a gun case, and unloaded. Of course that doesn't apply in designated hunting locations, but in suburbia/the city/anything but the forest or desert, it's pretty much always a crime to have a gun out in public.

Not true at all. Most states issue concealed carry permits and some that don't allow open carry. Maybe I am misunderstanding your wording and you mean that for most people, you are not allowed to have a gun in public which is true because most people don't have concealed carry permits but it still isn't the vast majority because some states allow open carry and/or concealed carry without a permit.
howerpower
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States619 Posts
August 04 2011 15:23 GMT
#37
On August 05 2011 00:21 OsoVega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 00:19 Chargelot wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:14 Morfildur wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:08 OsoVega wrote:
It is possible this is just someone not being aware of the campus rules. People accidentally carry guns into places where it is prohibited, somewhat often.


I would assume it happens a lot more in the US since guns are allowed.
Yeah, it might not be common to carry them around, but since the gun laws allow for them, why is it so bad that someone carries one?
Yes, the specific place is... well, not exactly the best place to carry a gun around, but there is always the one guy who is just oblivious to the past and the rules or just doesn't care.

Well, i still really hope it's just a stupid guy and that there are no malicious intentions - idiocy is often hard to discern from malignance.


Gun laws in America are rather extensive. It's not as simple as "everyone can have guns everywhere all the time."

It's not a light switch where you say "guns yes" or "guns no". The idea of gun ownership in America is also not about having them on you at all times and in all places.

It is handled by state law, but typically it is illegal for a person so have a firearm out in public. Many times it can only be off your property when it is in a gun case, and unloaded. Of course that doesn't apply in designated hunting locations, but in suburbia/the city/anything but the forest or desert, it's pretty much always a crime to have a gun out in public.

Not true at all. Most states issue concealed carry permits and some that don't allow open carry.


note "out in public"
OsoVega
Profile Joined December 2010
926 Posts
August 04 2011 15:25 GMT
#38
On August 05 2011 00:23 howerpower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 00:21 OsoVega wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:19 Chargelot wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:14 Morfildur wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:08 OsoVega wrote:
It is possible this is just someone not being aware of the campus rules. People accidentally carry guns into places where it is prohibited, somewhat often.


I would assume it happens a lot more in the US since guns are allowed.
Yeah, it might not be common to carry them around, but since the gun laws allow for them, why is it so bad that someone carries one?
Yes, the specific place is... well, not exactly the best place to carry a gun around, but there is always the one guy who is just oblivious to the past and the rules or just doesn't care.

Well, i still really hope it's just a stupid guy and that there are no malicious intentions - idiocy is often hard to discern from malignance.


Gun laws in America are rather extensive. It's not as simple as "everyone can have guns everywhere all the time."

It's not a light switch where you say "guns yes" or "guns no". The idea of gun ownership in America is also not about having them on you at all times and in all places.

It is handled by state law, but typically it is illegal for a person so have a firearm out in public. Many times it can only be off your property when it is in a gun case, and unloaded. Of course that doesn't apply in designated hunting locations, but in suburbia/the city/anything but the forest or desert, it's pretty much always a crime to have a gun out in public.

Not true at all. Most states issue concealed carry permits and some that don't allow open carry.


note "out in public"

A concealed carry permit allows you to carry a hand gun in public. I don't get what you are trying to point out.
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 15:27:52
August 04 2011 15:25 GMT
#39
On August 05 2011 00:21 OsoVega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 00:19 Chargelot wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:14 Morfildur wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:08 OsoVega wrote:
It is possible this is just someone not being aware of the campus rules. People accidentally carry guns into places where it is prohibited, somewhat often.


I would assume it happens a lot more in the US since guns are allowed.
Yeah, it might not be common to carry them around, but since the gun laws allow for them, why is it so bad that someone carries one?
Yes, the specific place is... well, not exactly the best place to carry a gun around, but there is always the one guy who is just oblivious to the past and the rules or just doesn't care.

Well, i still really hope it's just a stupid guy and that there are no malicious intentions - idiocy is often hard to discern from malignance.


Gun laws in America are rather extensive. It's not as simple as "everyone can have guns everywhere all the time."

It's not a light switch where you say "guns yes" or "guns no". The idea of gun ownership in America is also not about having them on you at all times and in all places.

It is handled by state law, but typically it is illegal for a person so have a firearm out in public. Many times it can only be off your property when it is in a gun case, and unloaded. Of course that doesn't apply in designated hunting locations, but in suburbia/the city/anything but the forest or desert, it's pretty much always a crime to have a gun out in public.

Not true at all. Most states issue concealed carry permits.


A CCP isn't the super exclusive right to do whatever you want with your gun whenever you want. Not only is it made very difficult to get in most states, but you still CAN NOT take your gun out in public. It's concealed carry, not "wave it around in public" carry.

Even with a permit, it's illegal in what I would imagine to be all 50 states to carry a concealed weapon onto a school campus.
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OsoVega
Profile Joined December 2010
926 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 15:30:15
August 04 2011 15:27 GMT
#40
On August 05 2011 00:25 Chargelot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 00:21 OsoVega wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:19 Chargelot wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:14 Morfildur wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:08 OsoVega wrote:
It is possible this is just someone not being aware of the campus rules. People accidentally carry guns into places where it is prohibited, somewhat often.


I would assume it happens a lot more in the US since guns are allowed.
Yeah, it might not be common to carry them around, but since the gun laws allow for them, why is it so bad that someone carries one?
Yes, the specific place is... well, not exactly the best place to carry a gun around, but there is always the one guy who is just oblivious to the past and the rules or just doesn't care.

Well, i still really hope it's just a stupid guy and that there are no malicious intentions - idiocy is often hard to discern from malignance.


Gun laws in America are rather extensive. It's not as simple as "everyone can have guns everywhere all the time."

It's not a light switch where you say "guns yes" or "guns no". The idea of gun ownership in America is also not about having them on you at all times and in all places.

It is handled by state law, but typically it is illegal for a person so have a firearm out in public. Many times it can only be off your property when it is in a gun case, and unloaded. Of course that doesn't apply in designated hunting locations, but in suburbia/the city/anything but the forest or desert, it's pretty much always a crime to have a gun out in public.

Not true at all. Most states issue concealed carry permits.


A CCP isn't the super exclusive right to do whatever you want with your gun whenever you want. Not only is it made very difficult to get in most states, but you still CAN NOT take your gun out in public. It's concealed carry, not "wave it around in public" carry.

Was it implied in the article that the man was waving it around or had even drawn it?

I'm aware that even with a permit the man is breaking the law. Look at the entire conversation. It's clear that I know this. I'm just addressing untrue posts.

It is possible this is just someone not being aware of the campus rules. People accidentally carry guns into places where it is prohibited, somewhat often.
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
August 04 2011 15:29 GMT
#41
On August 05 2011 00:27 OsoVega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 00:25 Chargelot wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:21 OsoVega wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:19 Chargelot wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:14 Morfildur wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:08 OsoVega wrote:
It is possible this is just someone not being aware of the campus rules. People accidentally carry guns into places where it is prohibited, somewhat often.


I would assume it happens a lot more in the US since guns are allowed.
Yeah, it might not be common to carry them around, but since the gun laws allow for them, why is it so bad that someone carries one?
Yes, the specific place is... well, not exactly the best place to carry a gun around, but there is always the one guy who is just oblivious to the past and the rules or just doesn't care.

Well, i still really hope it's just a stupid guy and that there are no malicious intentions - idiocy is often hard to discern from malignance.


Gun laws in America are rather extensive. It's not as simple as "everyone can have guns everywhere all the time."

It's not a light switch where you say "guns yes" or "guns no". The idea of gun ownership in America is also not about having them on you at all times and in all places.

It is handled by state law, but typically it is illegal for a person so have a firearm out in public. Many times it can only be off your property when it is in a gun case, and unloaded. Of course that doesn't apply in designated hunting locations, but in suburbia/the city/anything but the forest or desert, it's pretty much always a crime to have a gun out in public.

Not true at all. Most states issue concealed carry permits.


A CCP isn't the super exclusive right to do whatever you want with your gun whenever you want. Not only is it made very difficult to get in most states, but you still CAN NOT take your gun out in public. It's concealed carry, not "wave it around in public" carry.

Was it implied in the article that the man was waving it around or had even drawn it?


It was implied that it was visible. If it was on his ankle, in his pocket, or in a concealed holster, it would not have said "it was under a cloth". It would have said "it was under his pants, on his ankle" or "it was under his shirt".
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10421 Posts
August 04 2011 15:29 GMT
#42
Clearly a false report. No gunman could be on campus, since it's a gun free zone.

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Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
August 04 2011 15:30 GMT
#43
On August 05 2011 00:29 BlackJack wrote:
Clearly a false report. No gunman could be on campus, since it's a gun free zone.


Over 5000 troll posts and counting.
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moltenlead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada866 Posts
August 04 2011 15:31 GMT
#44
Again o.o? Hopefully this one will end up better
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 15:36:32
August 04 2011 15:34 GMT
#45
On August 04 2011 23:36 zev318 wrote:
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On August 04 2011 23:34 Craton wrote:
I wonder if the preventative measures they have supposedly implemented since 2007 will be used effectively.


like calling the cops.

how do you prevent this exactly?

By everyone having guns. If everyone is rockin with concealed carry, the nutjobs get gunned down quickly.

Cops are a joke. If you think otherwise, i will assume you have not dealed with them. Convince me otherwise, please.

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Aah thats the stuff..
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
August 04 2011 15:35 GMT
#46
On August 05 2011 00:16 OsoVega wrote:
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On August 05 2011 00:13 Parsistamon wrote:
Any updates? I really hope this doesn't happen again.

What drives people to massacre each other like this? What is wrong with them? I will never understand.

"like this"? Someone may or may not be carrying a gun. There is no need for responses like yours. It's like saying "Oh, God, fires claiming innocent lives is such a tragic thing!" in response to a fire bell being pulled.

There was no need for your response either, it's blatantly clear from the first line in his post that he is full aware no one has been shot as of yet.

It shouldn't come as a surprise that a potential gunman at a school brings up certain emotions either.
OsoVega
Profile Joined December 2010
926 Posts
August 04 2011 15:35 GMT
#47
On August 05 2011 00:29 Chargelot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 00:27 OsoVega wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:25 Chargelot wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:21 OsoVega wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:19 Chargelot wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:14 Morfildur wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:08 OsoVega wrote:
It is possible this is just someone not being aware of the campus rules. People accidentally carry guns into places where it is prohibited, somewhat often.


I would assume it happens a lot more in the US since guns are allowed.
Yeah, it might not be common to carry them around, but since the gun laws allow for them, why is it so bad that someone carries one?
Yes, the specific place is... well, not exactly the best place to carry a gun around, but there is always the one guy who is just oblivious to the past and the rules or just doesn't care.

Well, i still really hope it's just a stupid guy and that there are no malicious intentions - idiocy is often hard to discern from malignance.


Gun laws in America are rather extensive. It's not as simple as "everyone can have guns everywhere all the time."

It's not a light switch where you say "guns yes" or "guns no". The idea of gun ownership in America is also not about having them on you at all times and in all places.

It is handled by state law, but typically it is illegal for a person so have a firearm out in public. Many times it can only be off your property when it is in a gun case, and unloaded. Of course that doesn't apply in designated hunting locations, but in suburbia/the city/anything but the forest or desert, it's pretty much always a crime to have a gun out in public.

Not true at all. Most states issue concealed carry permits.


A CCP isn't the super exclusive right to do whatever you want with your gun whenever you want. Not only is it made very difficult to get in most states, but you still CAN NOT take your gun out in public. It's concealed carry, not "wave it around in public" carry.

Was it implied in the article that the man was waving it around or had even drawn it?


It was implied that it was visible. If it was on his ankle, in his pocket, or in a concealed holster, it would not have said "it was under a cloth". It would have said "it was under his pants, on his ankle" or "it was under his shirt".

Still, legal outside of campus. I'm not saying for sure that this man was simply unaware of the rules for the campus, just that it is a possibility.
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
August 04 2011 15:36 GMT
#48
On August 05 2011 00:34 xarthaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 23:36 zev318 wrote:
On August 04 2011 23:34 Craton wrote:
I wonder if the preventative measures they have supposedly implemented since 2007 will be used effectively.


like calling the cops.

how do you prevent this exactly?

By everyone having guns. If everyone is rockin with concealed carry, the nutjobs get gunned down quickly.

Yes, we get it, you support the left wing. Make your own thread about gun laws, don't troll someone's already existing one.

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Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
August 04 2011 15:37 GMT
#49
On August 05 2011 00:35 OsoVega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 00:29 Chargelot wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:27 OsoVega wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:25 Chargelot wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:21 OsoVega wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:19 Chargelot wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:14 Morfildur wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:08 OsoVega wrote:
It is possible this is just someone not being aware of the campus rules. People accidentally carry guns into places where it is prohibited, somewhat often.


I would assume it happens a lot more in the US since guns are allowed.
Yeah, it might not be common to carry them around, but since the gun laws allow for them, why is it so bad that someone carries one?
Yes, the specific place is... well, not exactly the best place to carry a gun around, but there is always the one guy who is just oblivious to the past and the rules or just doesn't care.

Well, i still really hope it's just a stupid guy and that there are no malicious intentions - idiocy is often hard to discern from malignance.


Gun laws in America are rather extensive. It's not as simple as "everyone can have guns everywhere all the time."

It's not a light switch where you say "guns yes" or "guns no". The idea of gun ownership in America is also not about having them on you at all times and in all places.

It is handled by state law, but typically it is illegal for a person so have a firearm out in public. Many times it can only be off your property when it is in a gun case, and unloaded. Of course that doesn't apply in designated hunting locations, but in suburbia/the city/anything but the forest or desert, it's pretty much always a crime to have a gun out in public.

Not true at all. Most states issue concealed carry permits.


A CCP isn't the super exclusive right to do whatever you want with your gun whenever you want. Not only is it made very difficult to get in most states, but you still CAN NOT take your gun out in public. It's concealed carry, not "wave it around in public" carry.

Was it implied in the article that the man was waving it around or had even drawn it?


It was implied that it was visible. If it was on his ankle, in his pocket, or in a concealed holster, it would not have said "it was under a cloth". It would have said "it was under his pants, on his ankle" or "it was under his shirt".

Still, legal outside of campus. I'm not saying for sure that this man was simply unaware of the rules for the campus, just that it is a possibility.


I challenge you to get a concealed carry permit, and draw your pistol in a city, in front of multiple police officers. I promise you it is not legal to have your gun OUT in public. Not outside of your house, drawn.
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socommaster123
Profile Joined May 2010
United States578 Posts
August 04 2011 15:37 GMT
#50
Wow I really hope this isnt true... scary thoughts man.
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OsoVega
Profile Joined December 2010
926 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 15:44:08
August 04 2011 15:39 GMT
#51
On August 05 2011 00:37 Chargelot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 00:35 OsoVega wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:29 Chargelot wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:27 OsoVega wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:25 Chargelot wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:21 OsoVega wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:19 Chargelot wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:14 Morfildur wrote:
On August 05 2011 00:08 OsoVega wrote:
It is possible this is just someone not being aware of the campus rules. People accidentally carry guns into places where it is prohibited, somewhat often.


I would assume it happens a lot more in the US since guns are allowed.
Yeah, it might not be common to carry them around, but since the gun laws allow for them, why is it so bad that someone carries one?
Yes, the specific place is... well, not exactly the best place to carry a gun around, but there is always the one guy who is just oblivious to the past and the rules or just doesn't care.

Well, i still really hope it's just a stupid guy and that there are no malicious intentions - idiocy is often hard to discern from malignance.


Gun laws in America are rather extensive. It's not as simple as "everyone can have guns everywhere all the time."

It's not a light switch where you say "guns yes" or "guns no". The idea of gun ownership in America is also not about having them on you at all times and in all places.

It is handled by state law, but typically it is illegal for a person so have a firearm out in public. Many times it can only be off your property when it is in a gun case, and unloaded. Of course that doesn't apply in designated hunting locations, but in suburbia/the city/anything but the forest or desert, it's pretty much always a crime to have a gun out in public.

Not true at all. Most states issue concealed carry permits.


A CCP isn't the super exclusive right to do whatever you want with your gun whenever you want. Not only is it made very difficult to get in most states, but you still CAN NOT take your gun out in public. It's concealed carry, not "wave it around in public" carry.

Was it implied in the article that the man was waving it around or had even drawn it?


It was implied that it was visible. If it was on his ankle, in his pocket, or in a concealed holster, it would not have said "it was under a cloth". It would have said "it was under his pants, on his ankle" or "it was under his shirt".

Still, legal outside of campus. I'm not saying for sure that this man was simply unaware of the rules for the campus, just that it is a possibility.


I challenge you to get a concealed carry permit, and draw your pistol in a city, in front of multiple police officers. I promise you it is not legal to have your gun OUT in public. Not outside of your house, drawn.

Did I ever say drawn?

"It was implied that it was visible".
My response, "Still, legal outside of campus".

Visible does not mean drawn. Visible is in fact legal in Virginia. You don't need to conceal it.
TheGlassface
Profile Joined November 2010
United States612 Posts
August 04 2011 15:39 GMT
#52
On August 05 2011 00:34 xarthaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 23:36 zev318 wrote:
On August 04 2011 23:34 Craton wrote:
I wonder if the preventative measures they have supposedly implemented since 2007 will be used effectively.


like calling the cops.

how do you prevent this exactly?

By everyone having guns. If everyone is rockin with concealed carry, the nutjobs get gunned down quickly.

Cops are a joke. If you think otherwise, i will assume you have not dealed with them. Convince me otherwise, please.


You know..if it's not your long winded, haughty posts it's batshit insanity...I'm starting to get you now.
At least you can actually, effectively communicate. I was almost fooled.

Although, hey, let's keep with these broad, sweeping generalizations of an entire countries police force. I like this style too.
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
August 04 2011 15:40 GMT
#53
Be safe everyone hopefully reading these forums gets the info out to you
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 15:42:15
August 04 2011 15:41 GMT
#54
I'm really tired and need to go sleep.
Shut the fuck up derailing this. Tell your friends about this if they are in the area. I dont want to hear your gun debate drivel. Im just IP banning everyone who continues it.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10421 Posts
August 04 2011 15:43 GMT
#55
Schools go on lockdown all the time for stuff like this. The only reason this is news is because it's VTech and the media knows it can hype this story because people will be interested in it.

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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
August 04 2011 15:45 GMT
#56
Irrelevant derailing post. If its nothing, then we will find out soon and close the thread. Otherwise shut it.
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
August 04 2011 15:45 GMT
#57
A question regarding the alert system. Why not just a simple speaker broadcast system around the campus, since it easily beats text messages/email anyday.
Leenock the Punisher
PolSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States634 Posts
August 04 2011 15:49 GMT
#58
On August 05 2011 00:45 furymonkey wrote:
A question regarding the alert system. Why not just a simple speaker broadcast system around the campus, since it easily beats text messages/email anyday.


Could spook the alleged gun carrier.
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blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
August 04 2011 15:50 GMT
#59
I really hope that there isn't a repeat of 2007; the events then were really tragic and a repeat would be even more traumatic for the people of that school and the surrounding area. =\
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Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
August 04 2011 15:50 GMT
#60
On August 05 2011 00:45 furymonkey wrote:
A question regarding the alert system. Why not just a simple speaker broadcast system around the campus, since it easily beats text messages/email anyday.


I know that Delaware Technical and Community College has one of these systems. I think some combination of the two would be best, because people who live off campus may still try to go to class in the afternoon.
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OsoVega
Profile Joined December 2010
926 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 16:05:23
August 04 2011 15:50 GMT
#61
On August 05 2011 00:45 Kennigit wrote:
Irrelevant derailing post. If its nothing, then we will find out soon and close the thread. Otherwise shut it.

What? He is pointing out that this isn't remarkable. How is that not relevant? It seems to me that kind of post is nothing but the only type of post that should be made in this thread.

If someone made a thread about a fire bell going off at a school then a whole bunch of people started lamenting about how terrible people burning to death is, and making posts like "oh, no not again, not another fire!" it would only make sense to tell them that a fire bell probably doesn't mean fire.
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
August 04 2011 15:51 GMT
#62
Any updates on the situation? False alarm? Dealt with already?
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furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
August 04 2011 15:51 GMT
#63
On August 05 2011 00:50 Chargelot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 00:45 furymonkey wrote:
A question regarding the alert system. Why not just a simple speaker broadcast system around the campus, since it easily beats text messages/email anyday.


I know that Delaware Technical and Community College has one of these systems. I think some combination of the two would be best, because people who live off campus may still try to go to class in the afternoon.


That is true, good point. I never thought of that.
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professorjoak
Profile Joined July 2008
318 Posts
August 04 2011 19:08 GMT
#64
Quoting CNN

A little after 9 a.m. three juveniles attending a camp at Virginia Tech said they saw a white male who had an object covered by some kind of cloth that the juveniles believed to be a weapon, officials said.

They said the man was walking fast. Authorities have not located him.


I don't blame them for taking precautions, but based on the quote above it appears to me that these three summer camp kids may have encountered a strange creature known as a "grad student." They're terrifying wraiths consumed by the Mathematics that live only for publishing obscure papers. No, I'm not sure what one was doing awake at 9am either.
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DerMeister
Profile Joined May 2011
United States57 Posts
August 04 2011 19:18 GMT
#65
(CNN) -- Virginia Tech lifted the alert Thursday afternoon it had ordered earlier in day when it was believed that man with a gun was on campus.


Couldn't find the man, so they lifted the alarm.
Omigawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1556 Posts
August 04 2011 19:38 GMT
#66
Holy shit I thought someone bumped an old thread. Hope everything turns out alright.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
August 04 2011 22:42 GMT
#67
Hmm, I live a few blocks off that campus right now o.o
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Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
August 04 2011 22:44 GMT
#68
im not trying to troll, but i read this on the homepage as "the gunrun reported a virgin"

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BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 23:24:34
August 04 2011 23:19 GMT
#69
Latest update via Virginia Tech:

"BLACKSBURG, Va., Aug. 4, 2011 – 2:41 p.m. Update to VT Alerts

The campus alert is lifted. See email or www.vt.edu for further information.

The campus alert is lifted. There will continue to be a large police presence on campus today. Police have not received nor discovered additional information about a person possibly carrying a weapon beyond that reported this morning. The university community may resume normal campus activity. Only Blacksburg campus classes have been cancelled today.

While the alert has been lifted, as always, we suggest that people remain vigilant and report suspicious campus activity to Virginia Tech Police at 911 or 540-231-6411."

Here is the VT page for the incident and further updates: http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/articles/2011/08/080411-unirel-dietrick.html

It appears the police will still be around and monitoring the campus but there may not have a been a gunman as there have been no other witnesses since the initial reporting. I imagine they would have had more leads by this point if there really was someone by their description carrying a gun around campus.


On August 05 2011 07:42 Zlasher wrote:
Hmm, I live a few blocks off that campus right now o.o


I would be cautious but not overly worried. When an inmate escaped Montgomery Hospital (and armed himself) they were able to track him down pretty quickly. The reason I bring this up is that unlike this situation, there were constant sightings and tips flooding in. I think the lack of sightings s since the initial report probably means you are safe but be careful.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
August 04 2011 23:30 GMT
#70
Oh I'm not that worried, I wake up mega late (I live on nerdschedule/korean time) so I'm sure this was long over before I even woke up.

Thanks for all the info though.
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