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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 01 2011 21:43 GMT
#141
This is not funny anymore. STOP SPAMMING THE FORUM WITH IMITATIONS
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Aruno
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand748 Posts
August 01 2011 21:44 GMT
#142
On August 02 2011 06:39 BlackFlag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 06:35 Aruno wrote:
On August 02 2011 06:32 BlackFlag wrote:
On August 02 2011 06:29 Drteeth wrote:
On August 02 2011 06:27 BlackFlag wrote:
On August 02 2011 05:11 Tevo wrote:
Please don't take this an attack on you or what you're doing, but here goes:

I feel like a lot the gay people nowadays are starting to feel like homosexuality should be integrated into everything. You get gay gamers, gay soccer players, gay hospitality workers and what not.


Those damn faggots wanna be a visible part of society too, fuck them!!! Especially that you mention soccer, where being gay is a "death sentence"... there are probably not many more activities where more homophobia exists. Homosexuality is only that much tolerated in society, as long as they aren't seen. Tolerance just gets pretended, it's fake as so much in "our" society.


I hope you're being ironic.


Because I try to look past the curtain? How many people tell you they are ok with gays but feel disgusted and uneasy if they see two men kiss each other in public?

You want to control how people feel?

Also, how can you know what they are feeling? You psychic?


I have a mouth, and I'm forming words with it. Other people do this too, this process is called talking. You know what that is?


Your not talking, Your typing
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benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 21:47:20
August 01 2011 21:46 GMT
#143
serious question, assuming people are done trolling: do you feel as though you act and treat people in a gaming space the same way that you would outside of that gaming space? do you use the same kind of language?

space just being loosely defined as the zone of interactions within the game itself, voice chat, text-based chat, etc
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
August 01 2011 21:50 GMT
#144
Oh no Sonuvbob closed the dragon thread!
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
August 01 2011 21:52 GMT
#145
On August 02 2011 06:43 Hesmyrr wrote:
This is not funny anymore. STOP SPAMMING THE FORUM WITH IMITATIONS


hi i see that you are having a fun time on the internet... lighten up yo
Discretionary Duck
Profile Joined July 2011
148 Posts
August 01 2011 21:55 GMT
#146
Does anyone have that pic from the ROFL thread showing a couple of single mothers talking about how they're worried one of their sons doesn't have a father figure in his life to guide his way... And then the next panel was him playing Donkey Kong and the character saying: "Follow your dreams!"
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
August 01 2011 21:55 GMT
#147
Eh, I think it's all proportional. I mean, most people are heterosexual, so it makes sense that most characters are. If most of the populace is heterosexual it just makes marketing sense to give them a character they can relate to more so.

As for female characters, I think that has more to do with gamer demographics. But hey, I'm all for having a bit more diversity in games, makes the world more real.
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Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 21:58:45
August 01 2011 21:56 GMT
#148
On August 02 2011 06:32 BlackFlag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 06:29 Drteeth wrote:
On August 02 2011 06:27 BlackFlag wrote:
On August 02 2011 05:11 Tevo wrote:
Please don't take this an attack on you or what you're doing, but here goes:

I feel like a lot the gay people nowadays are starting to feel like homosexuality should be integrated into everything. You get gay gamers, gay soccer players, gay hospitality workers and what not.


Those damn faggots wanna be a visible part of society too, fuck them!!! Especially that you mention soccer, where being gay is a "death sentence"... there are probably not many more activities where more homophobia exists. Homosexuality is only that much tolerated in society, as long as they aren't seen. Tolerance just gets pretended, it's fake as so much in "our" society.


I hope you're being ironic.


Because I try to look past the curtain? How many people tell you they are ok with gays but feel disgusted and uneasy if they see two men kiss each other in public?


You can feel uneasy about something without morally disapproving of it. I feel uneasy when I see someone eating bull-testicles, when I see an overweight guy jogging by, see a someone lighting a cigarette or even when a heterosexual couple are pretty much eating eachothers faces in public. Doesn't mean I actually morally disapprove of what their doing, or have something against it. Social acceptance doesn't imply that everyone agrees with your choices.

Lesbians kissing in public tho, that's another story entirely. We need public service announcements promoting that shit.

More OT: Commercial products are driven by demand, not by morality. If the lack of gay gaming characters were such a big deal for gay gamers, some company would have stepped in already and created a gay gaming experience (think Tyler Perry for movies). The fact that it hasn't happened (yet) means that actual gay gamers place more value on quality rather then the 'gay' part of games, which I can only applaud them for.

Also, in games where sexuality is relevant (think second life, or MMORPG's in general), you already have the choice. Sexuality only comes into play in social situations, which games simply aren't about. A 'don't ask don't tell'- call of duty storyline would be highly entertaining tho, if only to see america freak out about it, see it get banned from parts of the country while being cool with shooting civilians :p.
WightyCity
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
August 01 2011 21:57 GMT
#149
i think the personal lives of video game characters should be kept secret. so we only see theyr awsome adventures you know
90% watching it 8% talking about it and 2% playing it - sc2
Plutonik
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada329 Posts
August 01 2011 21:59 GMT
#150
On August 02 2011 03:51 superjoppe wrote:
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On August 02 2011 03:29 Magenta wrote:
This is serious business boys and girls. Anyone in Stockholm be sure to show up! Kulturhuset på onsdag 14.15.

LOL

HAHAHAHA thats gold
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
August 01 2011 21:59 GMT
#151
On August 02 2011 06:46 benjammin wrote:
serious question, assuming people are done trolling: do you feel as though you act and treat people in a gaming space the same way that you would outside of that gaming space? do you use the same kind of language?

space just being loosely defined as the zone of interactions within the game itself, voice chat, text-based chat, etc


No, and I expect the same response from others, as well. It boils down to relative anonymity, in the sense that online spaces are public spaces without being social spaces.
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benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 22:06:37
August 01 2011 22:06 GMT
#152
On August 02 2011 06:59 KimJongChill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 06:46 benjammin wrote:
serious question, assuming people are done trolling: do you feel as though you act and treat people in a gaming space the same way that you would outside of that gaming space? do you use the same kind of language?

space just being loosely defined as the zone of interactions within the game itself, voice chat, text-based chat, etc


No, and I expect the same response from others, as well. It boils down to relative anonymity, in the sense that online spaces are public spaces without being social spaces.


so i guess the question then is either:

we can probably all accept that relative anonymity allows for behavior that otherwise would not happen (see: 4chan). then, what motivates us to make the choices that we do in these anonymous spaces? why would someone choose to call someone "faggot" in this space instead of any other assortment of things?

OR

is there something intrinsic about this gaming space that allows for this kind of behavior? i'd hesitate calling it homophobia or anything like that, but what can be said about the frequency of orientation slurs in gaming culture?
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
Diglett
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
600 Posts
August 01 2011 22:09 GMT
#153
most people are not gay. most video game characters are not gay. don't see any problem.

plus sexual orientation has nothing to do with video games.
BlackFlag
Profile Joined September 2010
499 Posts
August 01 2011 23:16 GMT
#154
On August 02 2011 06:44 Aruno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 06:39 BlackFlag wrote:
On August 02 2011 06:35 Aruno wrote:
On August 02 2011 06:32 BlackFlag wrote:
On August 02 2011 06:29 Drteeth wrote:
On August 02 2011 06:27 BlackFlag wrote:
On August 02 2011 05:11 Tevo wrote:
Please don't take this an attack on you or what you're doing, but here goes:

I feel like a lot the gay people nowadays are starting to feel like homosexuality should be integrated into everything. You get gay gamers, gay soccer players, gay hospitality workers and what not.


Those damn faggots wanna be a visible part of society too, fuck them!!! Especially that you mention soccer, where being gay is a "death sentence"... there are probably not many more activities where more homophobia exists. Homosexuality is only that much tolerated in society, as long as they aren't seen. Tolerance just gets pretended, it's fake as so much in "our" society.


I hope you're being ironic.


Because I try to look past the curtain? How many people tell you they are ok with gays but feel disgusted and uneasy if they see two men kiss each other in public?

You want to control how people feel?

Also, how can you know what they are feeling? You psychic?


I have a mouth, and I'm forming words with it. Other people do this too, this process is called talking. You know what that is?


Your not talking, Your typing
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Kirazaki
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom42 Posts
August 01 2011 23:40 GMT
#155
On August 02 2011 03:42 Bibdy wrote:

I mean, I guess you can cite the recent Bioware games of giving the protagonist gay romance options, but those are exactly the thing I'm talking about. It's just there to make people feel good. It doesn't have any meaningful impact on the story, or the gameplay. It's a shallow plug to grab a little extra audience, while trying to be as insignificant as possible to maintain the core audience.

Isn't that kind of thing actually more insulting?


That is a completely different situation. Why shouldn't there be gay romance options? The rest of the romance options are insignificant as the gay ones. As a whole we all know there would be uproar if there were ONLY gay options.

While I agree to some extent that it would appear people are making an issue out of a non issue and that a lot of the time people are just simply highlighting a issue which wasn't there before, it simply comes down to a matter of perspective. You may not be part of this minority or any for that matter, It is quite different and the amount of hate that gets thrown at LGBT people is horrendous and I would say that the majority of the LGBT will be incredibly friendly and make societies and other communities better than most of those dishing out the insults and hate at them.

If people don't fight for rights then the world would be simply much more 1 dimensional and a little dull and most likely fair bit worse for wear.

As a whole I would like to see a more diverse range of character in all sorts of games. Does it mean I expect a gay guy in every game? No not at all. Do I want all the gay characters to be simply stereotyped, again not really. At the end of the day I think there needs to be more recognition and acceptance over such characters in games and options (such as the gay romance options in Dragon Age) to allow for more interesting scenarios and character development and depth (Mostly in RPGs or Story focused games).
Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
August 02 2011 06:02 GMT
#156
Well of course they're not going to add homosexual characters in video games themselves. Why? Because that would be taking a stance on something that's potentially controversial (sad but true) and representing the game developer's stance on it, which there's literally no need to do. It would only spark controversy, no majority of people are going to buy a game that they wouldn't otherwise buy because of something like this.
Vestige
Profile Joined November 2009
United States303 Posts
August 02 2011 06:06 GMT
#157
i think gays are slowly but surely entering their way into most forms of media as they are gaining more and more acceptance in today's society. Correct me if i'm wrong, but cant you make it play out that shepherd in mass effect turns out to be gay?
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resonant23
Profile Joined March 2011
United States38 Posts
August 02 2011 06:32 GMT
#158
misery likes company
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
August 02 2011 06:39 GMT
#159
Funny thread lol I honestly don't see how a characters sexual preference can effect a game at all. Also not all children's parents would want there kids exposed to this very adult topic in games so I assume that's why its not shown in most games but also because it wouldn't really make a difference in story lines or game play anyways. You could argue the same thing I think for the lack of black characters in games just the same, except that that wouldn't be putting things into kids heads that they wouldn't understand. Gotta admit though if it meant that much to people that are gay or lesbian than rock on it wouldn't bother me a bit, just don't think you can say the same for most video game users parents (who often are the purchasers of games).
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