EPTConsider taking a vacation to a country where you are able to train in marksmanship or join a gun club. Simulation by playing Call of Duty, Modern Warfare is a good alternative as well but you should try to get some practise with a real assault rifle (with red point optic) if possible.
[Old] The massacre in Norway - Page 102
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Sonic Death Monkey
Sweden991 Posts
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ThePhan2m
Norway2751 Posts
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Meowy Wowy
Norway6 Posts
On July 25 2011 07:15 ThePhan2m wrote: Tomorrow is his hearing in court. Do you think he should get an open hearing? Means he can address the press and the country on reasons why he did this. They have reported it will be a closed hearing http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/artikkel.php?artid=10080723 | ||
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Cocacooh
Norway1510 Posts
On July 25 2011 07:15 ThePhan2m wrote: Tomorrow is his hearing in court. Do you think he should get an open hearing? Means he can address the press and the country on reasons why he did this. The police is afraid that there will be lynch atmosphere in the court if the hearing is open. | ||
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shabby
Norway6402 Posts
On July 25 2011 07:11 Jormundr wrote: + Show Spoiler + On July 25 2011 06:59 QuickS32123 wrote: Actually I agree with you. Death would be too easy for him, he deserves to sit idle in prison for 20 odd years only to be put into Forvaring until the day that he dies or hangs himself. I feel as though he will never truly deserve to be put back into the free world. This guy had to be extremely insane to do what he just did and to believe that what he did was righteous. His mind is about as poisoned as the pious suicide bombers on the middle east. BTW this is Sovern posting on a new account, the mod was obviously too big headed to issue a warning before proceeding to ban my account. When he bans this one ill hop on my other computer using my other alt alias. So your argument is that this man is 1. Extremely insane 2. Brainwashed like "pious suicide bombers on the middle east" 3. Deserves to die. I would agree with you on #2, the man was definitely a christian terrorist. But if #1 is correct, why does he deserve to die WHEN OUR OWN LAWS HAVE PROVISIONS FOR THE CRIMINALLY INSANE? EDIT: (hopefully) Before I get flamed, I am not in any way saying that a church of any form is particularly culpable. I am merely trying to attract attention to the anti-muslim bias in our corporate news and other media. Notice how this would have been called an Islamic attack if he was an Islamic immigrant, even though few muslims support mindless violence and bloodshed. He has clearly stated that he is not religious, and is only a "christian" in the sense of the cultural heritage and values. Just saying. | ||
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ThePhan2m
Norway2751 Posts
On July 25 2011 07:17 Meowy Wowy wrote: They have reported it will be a closed hearing http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/artikkel.php?artid=10080723 It's not decided though. There is one judge that has the final decision, even if the police wants it closed. Det er ikke politiet som avgjør om et rettsmøte holdes for åpne eller lukkede dører. Det er opp til rettens administrator. Det er den rutinerte tingrettsdommeren Kim Heger som er satt opp på fengslingsmøtet. | ||
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sidesprang
Norway1033 Posts
On July 25 2011 07:21 ThePhan2m wrote: It's not decided though. There is one judge that has the final decision, even if the police wants it closed. That is true, but i highly doubt the judge will not follow the wishes to the police. | ||
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Andymoo
United States110 Posts
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Vore210
Ireland256 Posts
 .Your response though, is that of a truly civilised society. I'm happy that the guy is getting a closed hearing, he should get absolutely minimum to zero publicity. He'll spend the remainder of his life in a cell, not have his delusions of grandeur realised and hopefully will eventually see what he's done, and feel every one of the lives he's taken away. Norway is a beacon of what we all should be. Stay strong. | ||
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Meowy Wowy
Norway6 Posts
On July 25 2011 07:21 ThePhan2m wrote: It's not decided though. There is one judge that has the final decision, even if the police wants it closed. Sorry, thats what I get for not reading it. I have been pretty shaken the past couple of days. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34502 Posts
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Jormundr
United States1678 Posts
On July 25 2011 07:21 shabby wrote: He has clearly stated that he is not religious, and is only a "christian" in the sense of the cultural heritage and values. Just saying. Here in the United States, visiting a church once in a while makes you a "christian", visiting a mosque every once in a while will make you a "muslim". A man who is not considered to be a muslim by mainstream muslims is still an islamic terrorist, yet a white man in the same position is just a 'terrorist'. At least in my country, our government and news media help to keep this image intact, that threats come from "outsiders", in order to establish a sense of nationalism. | ||
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Gnax
Sweden490 Posts
On July 25 2011 07:15 ThePhan2m wrote: Tomorrow is his hearing in court. Do you think he should get an open hearing? Means he can address the press and the country on reasons why he did this. edit: I'm asking on your opinion It was a "marketing operation" for his manifesto. As disturbing as that sounds, that's his reason. | ||
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Pasado
United States142 Posts
On July 25 2011 07:24 Andymoo wrote: ...However, one of my coworkers did point out that he's most likely smart enough to know how that works and may be able to prove himself as changed when that time comes, granted I hope they just automatically add on 5years every time. This, I also feel he is smart enough to act rehabilitated and get released. | ||
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TOloseGT
United States1145 Posts
On July 25 2011 07:32 Jormundr wrote: Here in the United States, visiting a church once in a while makes you a "christian", visiting a mosque every once in a while will make you a "muslim". A man who is not considered to be a muslim by mainstream muslims is still an islamic terrorist, yet a white man in the same position is just a 'terrorist'. At least in my country, our government and news media help to keep this image intact, that threats come from "outsiders", in order to establish a sense of nationalism. Islamic terrorists use their religion to justify their actions. In the name of Allah and all that. If this guy went around saying Jesus compelled him to do it, then yes, he'd be called a Christian terrorist as well. | ||
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shabby
Norway6402 Posts
On July 25 2011 07:32 Jormundr wrote: Here in the United States, visiting a church once in a while makes you a "christian", visiting a mosque every once in a while will make you a "muslim". A man who is not considered to be a muslim by mainstream muslims is still an islamic terrorist, yet a white man in the same position is just a 'terrorist'. At least in my country, our government and news media help to keep this image intact, that threats come from "outsiders", in order to establish a sense of nationalism. It's different here, and a reason for it hurting even more. He's definately one of our own. They released the information very early, with emphasis on his ethnicicity (spelling?!). Probably because a lot of people were jumping to conclusions merely minutes after the explosion about what religion fanatic it was this time and I even heard of muslims getting harassed within the first hours. | ||
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JanBanan
Norway29 Posts
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Chilling5pr33
Germany518 Posts
On July 25 2011 07:35 Pasado wrote: This, I also feel he is smart enough to act rehabilitated and get released. I really doubt that... Psychologie is pretty smart on theire side even if he can simulate every stage of this it wont be possible to accept himself afterwards... If he get healed he kills himself. | ||
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Andymoo
United States110 Posts
On July 25 2011 07:39 JanBanan wrote: This guy deserves death or total isolation for the rest of his life. I just read that Breivik used explosive ammo, which detonates on inpact, and this he used on teenagers/kids... It's unbelievable. source on that? On July 25 2011 07:40 Chilling5pr33 wrote: I really doubt that... Psychologie is pretty smart on theire side even if he can simulate every stage of this it wont be possible to accept himself afterwards... If he get healed he kills himself. He can clearly accept himself, seeing as he obviously shows no remorse for what he has done seeing as he did it for a 'cause' and to be a martyr. | ||
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Nausea
Sweden807 Posts
On July 25 2011 07:35 Pasado wrote: This, I also feel he is smart enough to act rehabilitated and get released. He will be confirmed to be a psychopath, there is no way to treat this and everything he says about changed views will be ignored because psychopaths are extremely good att lying. He will never get out. | ||
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