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Keep your off topic discussions out of this thread and show some damn respect!
LocusCoeruleus
Profile Joined June 2010
Norway32 Posts
July 24 2011 21:27 GMT
#1981
On July 25 2011 06:22 Sovern wrote:
I never said that, what it would do is put fear into the minds of future potential criminals. They should torture the guy and embarrass him in my opinion, it would really make people think twice about their actions. Letting people get away with murder is absolutely insane. 20 odd years in a prison where he will be supported and letting him go home free is practically getting away with murder.


Cut this shit out immediately. We've been over this so many times in this thread. If you want to know how Norway feels about this, you should search it up in this thread. It will be pretty much representable for the majority of norwegians.
No one is letting anyone get away with murder, our laws are quite capable to handle this, our way.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 21:28:39
July 24 2011 21:27 GMT
#1982
On July 25 2011 06:22 Sovern wrote:
I never said that, what it would do is put fear into the minds of future potential criminals. They should torture the guy and embarrass him in my opinion, it would really make people think twice about their actions. Letting people get away with murder is absolutely insane. 20 odd years in a prison where he will be supported and letting him go home free is practically getting away with murder.



Well first of all you dont get out after 20 years. It's like this in many European countries (Denmark even has a maximum of only 16 years). But mentally insane people, or people who are a threat to society will NEVER get out. Everyone in Europe knows this, it's just how the law is, at least in the countries i know of.

Second of all, you want murders to "think twice"? You realize these people are insane, right? They dont think rationally, otherwise they wouldnt kill 100 people, especially kids. And by killing him you'd just be making him a martyr, what good would that do. I'd say life in prison is almost worse than death.
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
July 24 2011 21:27 GMT
#1983
On July 25 2011 06:26 Sovern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 06:25 Thorakh wrote:
On July 25 2011 06:22 Sovern wrote:
I never said that, what it would do is put fear into the minds of future potential criminals. They should torture the guy and embarrass him in my opinion, it would really make people think twice about their actions. Letting people get away with murder is absolutely insane. 20 odd years in a prison where he will be supported and letting him go home free is practically getting away with murder.
He will never be let lose. You're delusional if you think so.


I'm not delusional, obviously you don't know much about Norway's laws. 20 something odd years is the max prison sentence.
Sigh. At least read the OP before commenting.
LocusCoeruleus
Profile Joined June 2010
Norway32 Posts
July 24 2011 21:28 GMT
#1984
On July 25 2011 06:26 Sovern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 06:25 Thorakh wrote:
On July 25 2011 06:22 Sovern wrote:
I never said that, what it would do is put fear into the minds of future potential criminals. They should torture the guy and embarrass him in my opinion, it would really make people think twice about their actions. Letting people get away with murder is absolutely insane. 20 odd years in a prison where he will be supported and letting him go home free is practically getting away with murder.
He will never be let lose. You're delusional if you think so.


I'm not delusional, obviously you don't know much about Norway's laws. 20 something odd years is the max prison sentence.


You obviously have no idea how Norwegian laws work, you'll find plenty information about it in this thread. Stop discussing this already.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Gnax
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden490 Posts
July 24 2011 21:28 GMT
#1985
On July 25 2011 06:26 Sovern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 06:25 Thorakh wrote:
On July 25 2011 06:22 Sovern wrote:
I never said that, what it would do is put fear into the minds of future potential criminals. They should torture the guy and embarrass him in my opinion, it would really make people think twice about their actions. Letting people get away with murder is absolutely insane. 20 odd years in a prison where he will be supported and letting him go home free is practically getting away with murder.
He will never be let lose. You're delusional if you think so.


I'm not delusional, obviously you don't know much about Norway's laws. 20 something odd years is the max prison sentence.


Obviously you didn't read the OP.
killamane
Profile Joined May 2010
United States138 Posts
July 24 2011 21:30 GMT
#1986
sorry. i'd kill him myself if i knew where he lived
Sovern
Profile Joined March 2011
United States312 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 21:36:33
July 24 2011 21:33 GMT
#1987
Doesn't even matter, he should of been shot in the head right on the spot he doesn't deserve to be fed or given a free place to live. A lot of the members on this site obviously take a very pacifist approach to this tragic event but I cant see that as the right approach when it comes to so many innocent people being killed with no remorse.
SpiffD
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1264 Posts
July 24 2011 21:34 GMT
#1988
Danish PM encourages Danes to observe a minute of silence tomorrow at 12:00 together with the Norwegian people. Will be joining.
Vir prudens non contra ventum mingit
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
July 24 2011 21:35 GMT
#1989
On July 25 2011 06:33 Sovern wrote:
Doesn't even matter, he should of been shot in the head right on the spot he doesn't deserve to be fed or given a free place to live.
That would make us barbarians, just like he is. No thanks, we prefer to hold on to our values.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8263 Posts
July 24 2011 21:39 GMT
#1990
On July 25 2011 06:35 Thorakh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 06:33 Sovern wrote:
Doesn't even matter, he should of been shot in the head right on the spot he doesn't deserve to be fed or given a free place to live.
That would make us barbarians, just like he is. No thanks, we prefer to hold on to our values.


Besides, he will probably face isolation for his 21+ years in jail (for his own safety. I don't believe he will be very popular with the other inmates either), which is much worse than a bullet between the eyes.
Weson
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Iceland1032 Posts
July 24 2011 21:40 GMT
#1991
On July 25 2011 06:27 Deadlyfish wrote:

I'd say life in prison is almost worse than death.

Death is no penalty for this guy. If he gets killed he wins. They should treat him so maby one day he will realize what he has done so he can truly suffer, then it wont take long before he is hanging from a rope inside his cell.
"!@€#" - as some guy said
BleaK_
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway593 Posts
July 24 2011 21:40 GMT
#1992
On July 25 2011 06:35 Thorakh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 06:33 Sovern wrote:
Doesn't even matter, he should of been shot in the head right on the spot he doesn't deserve to be fed or given a free place to live.
That would make us barbarians, just like he is. No thanks, we prefer to hold on to our values.


This. He will never be set free from prison, and most of Norway would not have him killed, because that drags us down to his level.
Sovern
Profile Joined March 2011
United States312 Posts
July 24 2011 21:41 GMT
#1993
So you'd rather your county be viewed as heavily pacifist that lets people get away with murder? I wouldn't even give him the prestige associated with being a barbarian either. Hes lower ranked than a piece of shit.
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
July 24 2011 21:42 GMT
#1994
The sadest thing is that he got what he wanted; attention.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8263 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 21:43:36
July 24 2011 21:42 GMT
#1995
On July 25 2011 06:40 BleaK_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 06:35 Thorakh wrote:
On July 25 2011 06:33 Sovern wrote:
Doesn't even matter, he should of been shot in the head right on the spot he doesn't deserve to be fed or given a free place to live.
That would make us barbarians, just like he is. No thanks, we prefer to hold on to our values.


This. He will never be set free from prison, and most of Norway would not have him killed, because that drags us down to his level.


He wont. Yes, "Forvaring" is only if they think he isn't fit for society, and isn't directly connected with the crimes he did. But I don't think any judge in the history of ever will deem someone who killed 84 kids and 9 with the bomb (and counting btw), to be safe to put back in society.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 21:47:35
July 24 2011 21:43 GMT
#1996
--- Nuked ---
Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
July 24 2011 21:43 GMT
#1997
On July 25 2011 06:41 Sovern wrote:
So you'd rather your county be viewed as heavily pacifist that lets people get away with murder? I wouldn't even give him the prestige associated with being a barbarian either. Hes lower ranked than a piece of shit.

I am pretty sure the last country you want to lecture about crime is Norway.
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 21:45:14
July 24 2011 21:43 GMT
#1998
On July 25 2011 06:41 Sovern wrote:
So you'd rather your county be viewed as heavily pacifist that lets people get away with murder? I wouldn't even give him the prestige associated with being a barbarian either. Hes lower ranked than a piece of shit.
As much as I'd like him to be tortured to death, that is not the way civilized people deal with criminals, no matter how evil the criminal is. Killing is wrong, unless out of self defence. We're not letting him get away with murder, we're putting him lifelong in prison.

And besides, killing him will give him exactly what he wants, do you want that to happen? I bet he'd even go with a smile to his execution, we're pissing him off by not giving way and standing true to our justice system.

If we want to have peace in our world we need to treat everyone the same.
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
July 24 2011 21:45 GMT
#1999
On July 25 2011 06:30 killamane wrote:
sorry. i'd kill him myself if i knew where he lived


Yeah, that'll teach him...
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
Xayoz
Profile Joined December 2010
Estonia373 Posts
July 24 2011 21:45 GMT
#2000
On July 25 2011 06:30 killamane wrote:
sorry. i'd kill him myself if i knew where he lived

People like you make me sick.
Whenever you correct someone's grammar just remember that nobody likes you.
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