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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18112 Posts
November 25 2019 15:44 GMT
#14961
On November 19 2019 14:07 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2019 02:34 Gorsameth wrote:
On November 19 2019 01:39 redlightdistrict wrote:
On November 19 2019 01:28 Gorsameth wrote:
On November 19 2019 01:23 redlightdistrict wrote:
Could u fight a DUI arrest if u had your Tesla in autopilot? ...asking for a friend
Your still the driver and required to be able to take control if needed right? Which you can't because your drunk.

Do you first have to experience a heart attack in order to become an effective cardiologist? If the data has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that a car can drive itself effectively without human interference, and a human never interfered with the autopilot, wouldn't it be plausible deniability?
I don't think we are at the point of cars driving themselves perfectly in complex situations yet to the point where we can fully remove the driver are we? Its been a while since I looked into the state of automated driving but its mostly 'advised' to be limited to highways?

Also before you get to this situation there is a MASSIVE legal battle that needs to be fought. If your car is fully self driving and the driver has no responsibility, so you can get in your car while drunk, who becomes responsible in the case of an accident?
You? impossible since your not driving.
The team of programmers that created it? Do they go to jail if your car runs over someone?



The certifier that approved that self-driving vehicle would be my first pick. No single programmer did more than a fraction of the code, trying to find the one that did the line that in combination with 20 other functions caused the accident seems strange. Somebody will need to sign that the vehicle is according to whatever law is created for self-driving.

The formulation of that law will be the more interesting part. What type of things are allowed and not. It should be much better than a human with that set but will still have accidents. Exploding tire while taking a turn is not the programmings fault as long as it handles it well after the malfunction happens. Or brake system not working for some reason even though programming told it to break and tried all the break systems without effect?

At least you won't have people committing suicide by driving into a truck on opposite lanes of a highway.


Not only that, but "self-driving" isn't programmed. All the programmers did was build a (very) complicated neural network, that was then trained on hundreds/thousands/millions of hours of video to recognize objects, and then trained in simulators, controlled environments and eventually "the wild" to react the way you want it to. If there is an obvious error in the function that the learning algorithm is optimizing you might be able to prove negligence, but other than that it seems very unlikely any engineer was directly responsible for anything that happens in the self-driving software.

The legal framework for automation is pretty difficult.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43210 Posts
November 25 2019 17:27 GMT
#14962
On November 25 2019 17:02 Starlightsun wrote:
Sounds like the M Bison Tuesday scene from Street Fighter movie.

Such a good scene.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
November 26 2019 00:07 GMT
#14963
I've suspected for years that all those "verify you are not a bot" programs which ask you to select cars and traffic lights from a 3x3 square are actually being fed to all those companies which are researching self driving programs.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23459 Posts
November 26 2019 01:38 GMT
#14964
On November 26 2019 09:07 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I've suspected for years that all those "verify you are not a bot" programs which ask you to select cars and traffic lights from a 3x3 square are actually being fed to all those companies which are researching self driving programs.

Yeah, been using them to train/assist AI for about a decade now

Google has countless reasons to want to train AI to recognise objects in images: better Google Image Search results, more accurate Google Maps results, and enabling you to search your Google Photos library for all of the photos you have taken of a specific object or place. Oh, and the small matter of making sure that your driverless car doesn’t hit anything. You know when Recaptcha asks you to identify street signs? Essentially you’re playing a very small role in piloting a driverless car somewhere, at some point in the future.


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"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5765 Posts
November 26 2019 12:07 GMT
#14965
Why does, if for example my left ear itches, when I use a Q-tip all the exploded shit is in my right ear instead?
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11628 Posts
November 26 2019 12:14 GMT
#14966
The only reasonable explanation is that there is nothing in between your ears.
redlightdistrict
Profile Joined October 2018
382 Posts
November 30 2019 03:18 GMT
#14967
How did Husky go from casting starcraft to being a cooking influencer?

Didn't seem like a natural progression of events
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
November 30 2019 05:00 GMT
#14968
I did some hunting, and here's something from May explaining medical issues with his vocal cords from hype casting.


I thought of him as sort of an passionate yet mildly cringey youtuber/streamer/caster back in the day, but totally undeserving of the volume of hate from the caster-bashers of WoL. Looks like he found another outlet for that bubbly personality, and good for him.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
November 30 2019 18:08 GMT
#14969
On November 26 2019 00:36 JimmiC wrote:
Is it this?




don is ice cold
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9245 Posts
November 30 2019 18:12 GMT
#14970
Are there any sci-fi settings where interplanetary slave raiding has a plausible explanation? By "plausible" I mean having a good reason to burn all that spaceship fuel just to kidnap someone from another solar system and force them to do simple manual labor for you.
You're now breathing manually
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11628 Posts
November 30 2019 20:35 GMT
#14971
You would need some really cheap way to do FTL travel for that to make any sense. And really shitty robotics.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 30 2019 20:41 GMT
#14972
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thePunGun
Profile Blog Joined January 2016
598 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-01 07:37:45
December 01 2019 02:32 GMT
#14973
I don't think there's a logical scenario, where a civilization, that's technologically advanced enough to create interstellar spacecrafts would have the need for slave labour. Why travel to other planets just for slave labourers, when you can just build machines to do the same work? Slaves need food and shelter and aren't as efficient as machines.
"You cannot teach a man anything, you can only help him find it within himself."
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28706 Posts
December 01 2019 11:42 GMT
#14974
Makes sense if sex robots never evolved to the point where they're fulfilling everything you get from a human/they're really expensive/ if the primary motivation is a sadistic need for having power and control over other people. Abusing a machine might never feel as good as abusing a person, to people who derive pleasure out of that.
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Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4953 Posts
December 01 2019 12:08 GMT
#14975
The slavery satisfies the AI, which won't do its job AI'ing (which is everything) if it doesn't see beings slave away at stuff. But most alien societies that do the slave raidings are too embarrassed to reveal this to viewer.
Taxes are for Terrans
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11628 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-01 12:24:18
December 01 2019 12:24 GMT
#14976
Or it is an AI doing basically anti-slavery. It is designed to keep intelligent beings comfortable and do stuff for them, and thus it constantly tries to acquire more intelligent beings and keeps them locked up in a state where they never move a single muscle or make any decisions whatsoever, and turn into fat blobs.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4953 Posts
December 01 2019 12:44 GMT
#14977
Well, those are basically the two forms a general AI can come in: the tyrant and the nurse.
Taxes are for Terrans
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21950 Posts
December 01 2019 13:59 GMT
#14978
On December 01 2019 21:24 Simberto wrote:
Or it is an AI doing basically anti-slavery. It is designed to keep intelligent beings comfortable and do stuff for them, and thus it constantly tries to acquire more intelligent beings and keeps them locked up in a state where they never move a single muscle or make any decisions whatsoever, and turn into fat blobs.
Sounds like the Rogue Servitor from Stellaris.
Mandatory pampering for all organic life.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-01 20:09:09
December 01 2019 20:08 GMT
#14979
I was thinking about this and came up with a scenario where interstellar travel is somehow happened upon by a species that would otherwise not be capable of spacefaring. Say abandoned interstellar ships that drifted from a war that ended centuries prior to within reach of this species and they were functional and had effectively infinite fuel sources in the form of sci-fi magical fusion reactors.
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9245 Posts
December 01 2019 20:45 GMT
#14980
I can think of a few other scenarios with the slavers using alien technology for interstellar travel, e.g. on-planet stargates, but I couldn't come up with any scenario where the slavers are an advanced species, at least as advanced as Battarians from Mass Effect.

I guess you can say it's plausible to have slavers capturing Twi'leks to turn them into very valuable sex slaves, but those would be rare, my question was about stuff like capturing Wookies on their homeworld to have them work in your mines or factories located on another planet.
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