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Norway28798 Posts
On January 10 2017 22:34 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2017 21:42 Simberto wrote:On January 10 2017 21:20 Cascade wrote:On January 10 2017 20:56 opisska wrote:On January 10 2017 20:54 Morfildur wrote:
I'm wondering, semirelatedly,...
If you'd accidentally time travelled too far back, let's say year 1000 in central Europe, and you'd get stuck there, unprepared, with just your smartphone and a charger cable (because you thought you'd travel to somewhere with electricity), what would be the best way to charge your phone so you can keep playing sudoku or watch porn or whatever? Interesting to learn that you either keep porn to watch offline on your phone or think that internet predates electricity  However generating stable charging voltage in pre-technological society would be pretty challenging. Your best bet would probably be some kind of chemical battery, but you'd have to know in advance, what actually works, as you would have no internet Even if you remember which metals go into the potatoes, you'd have a ahrd time finding the metals I think. Finding a potato should be easy. You are not going to find a potato in medieval europe, either. You could try building a generator, but producing constant 50 ohm 220V is going to be hard. I don't actually know what the tolerances on a charge cable are. Chemical battery might also work, but you are going to have to put a lot of them in row to achieve the necessary voltage. And you would have to open up your charger cable and apply the voltage to the correct wires in there. You are also going to then put a lot of the arrays in parallel to be able to achieve the current necessary without voltage drops. No need to make 220V AC for a smartphone, all you need is 5V DC, which means 3-6 chem cells depending on choice of materials. Dynamos would be a pain to stabilize, better to make an alternator and use the actual AC charger then to stabilize. I am still not sure what the phone shall be good for though, maybe you could perform miracles and live off it, but take care with witch trials.
I really think the 'make sure you don't get burned alive for heretic behavior' is a pretty central element of all 'what would you do if transported back into medieval europe' scenarios.
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This whole discussion reminds me that I need to finally make the blog about the Zones of Thought trillogy to make you all read it, if only for some rather useless take on this topic found there.
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You would probably have to go all in and say that you're the new messiah. Do some tricks with your magic cellphone. Be smart, get to be a king close adviser asap, before you get all dirty and look like a vassal.
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Canada11355 Posts
On January 10 2017 09:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
If you had a one-time-use time machine that could only transport you backward in time for one hour (after an hour you would be instantly transported back to the future ) how far back would you go and what would be the best way to improve your current life in that hour?
To clarify, the time travel works like Futurama time travel in that there are no paradoxes created regardless of how much sense it makes. (You could become your own grandpa)
Also you are transported with anything you have on your person as long as it is not touching the ground. This means you will lose your shoes and no vehicles or wagons could come with you.
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On January 11 2017 05:01 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2017 09:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
If you had a one-time-use time machine that could only transport you backward in time for one hour (after an hour you would be instantly transported back to the future ) how far back would you go and what would be the best way to improve your current life in that hour? To clarify, the time travel works like Futurama time travel in that there are no paradoxes created regardless of how much sense it makes. (You could become your own grandpa) Also you are transported with anything you have on your person as long as it is not touching the ground. This means you will lose your shoes and no vehicles or wagons could come with you.
What if I put my car in a truck?
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On January 11 2017 04:06 Pontual wrote:
You would probably have to go all in and say that you're the new messiah. Do some tricks with your magic cellphone. Be smart, get to be a king close adviser asap, before you get all dirty and look like a vassal.
Don't reinvent shit, own it.
Say you got visions from Jesus that you need to wash your hands and boil water before drinking it. Say you got this fresh idea from God about how to automate milling and blacksmithing.
Use these "visions" to incorporate religious fervor with science, become a saint and have your legacy be the entire western world talking about the miracles made in your name; longevity of life, the scientific method, etc...
Transform theism to be both theology and science, and be worshiped as the dawn of the modern era.
Fuck the phone, bring your college education to task.
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On January 11 2017 06:02 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2017 04:06 Pontual wrote:
You would probably have to go all in and say that you're the new messiah. Do some tricks with your magic cellphone. Be smart, get to be a king close adviser asap, before you get all dirty and look like a vassal. Don't reinvent shit, own it. Say you got visions from Jesus that you need to wash your hands and boil water before drinking it. Say you got this fresh idea from God about how to automate milling and blacksmithing. Use these "visions" to incorporate religious fervor with science, become a saint and have your legacy be the entire western world talking about the miracles made in your name; longevity of life, the scientific method, etc... Transform theism to be both theology and science, and be worshiped as the dawn of the modern era. Fuck the phone, bring your college education to task.
Now we are talking. My concept of being a sacred entity itself was having in mind that you're the weirdest guy in the whole world by far. Some may look at you as a witch, perhaps saying you talk to God may not even be enough. Who knows.
Btw this discussion is really interesting, but not as interesting as how would you try to charge your phone. /s
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On January 11 2017 06:39 Pontual wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2017 06:02 Thieving Magpie wrote:On January 11 2017 04:06 Pontual wrote:
You would probably have to go all in and say that you're the new messiah. Do some tricks with your magic cellphone. Be smart, get to be a king close adviser asap, before you get all dirty and look like a vassal. Don't reinvent shit, own it. Say you got visions from Jesus that you need to wash your hands and boil water before drinking it. Say you got this fresh idea from God about how to automate milling and blacksmithing. Use these "visions" to incorporate religious fervor with science, become a saint and have your legacy be the entire western world talking about the miracles made in your name; longevity of life, the scientific method, etc... Transform theism to be both theology and science, and be worshiped as the dawn of the modern era. Fuck the phone, bring your college education to task. Now we are talking. My concept of being a sacred entity itself was having in mind that you're the weirdest guy in the whole world by far. Some may look at you as a witch, perhaps saying you talk to God may not even be enough. Who knows. Btw this discussion is really interesting, but not as interesting as how would you try to charge your phone. /s
Well, step one is get money flowing in, step two is buying out all iron and magnet reserves. Step 17 involves a tesla coil. Step 258 is learning to code.
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I have a sleep problem for years.
Regular people need 8 hours of sleep and go to bed and wake up certain times, especially working people. Like 00-08, 23-07
My problem is I become sleepy 2 hours later everyday. Like for example if I go to bed at 23 tonight, tomorrow I become sleepy at 01. This is causing me either:
- late to work too often
- sleepy all the day
routine life is too tough
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Canada11355 Posts
On January 11 2017 06:55 mantequilla wrote:
I have a sleep problem for years.
Regular people need 8 hours of sleep and go to bed and wake up certain times, especially working people. Like 00-08, 23-07
My problem is I become sleepy 2 hours later everyday. Like for example if I go to bed at 23 tonight, tomorrow I become sleepy at 01. This is causing me either:
- late to work too often
- sleepy all the day
routine life is too tough
When I worked an afternoon/evening shift (14-22 or 16-24) I always felt more rested and never had to use an alarm. I would always plan to go to bed 12 hours before my shift started so even if I wasn't particularly tired at that time I still had some leeway. Now that I work a morning shift I feel tired all the time and can never seem to solidify my sleep schedule. Maybe you are a night owl and just don't know it yet.
Now if it's a linear scale where you always feel tired 2 hours later than the night previous, you may need to find a place that has alternating shifts and make your cycle fit the hours. I worked at a place where every 2 weeks we went from early shift to late shift and back again. It was terrible but if you could find something on a shorter rotation you could potentially make your sleep problem work to your benefit as often times working odd shifts comes with a pay increase.
Or take sleep medication but I never cared for how sleeping pills made me feel
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On January 11 2017 06:55 mantequilla wrote:
I have a sleep problem for years.
Regular people need 8 hours of sleep and go to bed and wake up certain times, especially working people. Like 00-08, 23-07
My problem is I become sleepy 2 hours later everyday. Like for example if I go to bed at 23 tonight, tomorrow I become sleepy at 01. This is causing me either:
- late to work too often
- sleepy all the day
routine life is too tough
Most start ups also allow flexible schedules, you could come in/leave at different hours each day so long as your manager knows ahead of time.
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On January 11 2017 06:42 JimmiC wrote:
Perhaps you could bring a taser and have lightning strike down those that oppose you. I think you would need some sort of weapon/power to help because who ever had the power at the time is not likely to want to give it up.
Dude. It's 1000AD. There's no gunpowder yet in Europe. Just make that.
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On January 11 2017 07:38 JimmiC wrote:
Yeah but you need a army of people to wield it. I think people over estimate how easy it would be to gain a army. And you with what ever crude gunpowder and gun you come up with is still gonna get fucked by a army. Or someone steals your idea and slits your throat.
That was made mainly in response to the needing a taser to have a magic weapon to smite people with. Tossing fireworks in someone's face will work well too.
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I've always thought infant CPR would be the easiest impressive thing to bring as a skill. It's really easy to do, requires no tools, has a ridiculously good success rate, and would earn you massive goodwill in a way that doesn't scream witchcraft. As long as you're making your name as a healer and not a destroyer or a conjurer of cheap tricks, things are gonna look better for you.
Here's the real issue though; if you could grant that society all that technology and all that power... would you? Do you really think the problem with history is that our technology advanced too slowly? Or is the danger that it advanced too fast for our morality to keep up? Would your "help" ultimately just result in a nuclear apocalypse fought out between the Valois and the Hapsburgs over some shit province in Italy?
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On January 11 2017 11:33 Yoav wrote:
I've always thought infant CPR would be the easiest impressive thing to bring as a skill. It's really easy to do, requires no tools, has a ridiculously good success rate, and would earn you massive goodwill in a way that doesn't scream witchcraft. As long as you're making your name as a healer and not a destroyer or a conjurer of cheap tricks, things are gonna look better for you.
Here's the real issue though; if you could grant that society all that technology and all that power... would you? Do you really think the problem with history is that our technology advanced too slowly? Or is the danger that it advanced too fast for our morality to keep up? Would your "help" ultimately just result in a nuclear apocalypse fought out between the Valois and the Hapsburgs over some shit province in Italy?
It should, but even if you try to gain power/influence by doing good, you will still be taking it from someone established, t hat won't be happy about it. There will already be someone that is the village authority on what to do with infants in need of CPR, and that person won't be happy with you barging in trying to claim that authority. I wish the world was such that the superior outcome of your method would smoothly shift authority over to you, but seeing how we struggle with that still today, I wouldn't rely on it in the dark ages.
I'd say that if you want to gain power at any cost, I'd take a page from today's politics methods instead. Identify the people you want to get loyalty from (I guess you start with local village council, and work your way up towards the king or w/e), identify what problems they have, come up with a scapegoat for their problems, fling dirt on the scapegoat and claim that you have easy solutions, mainly involving going after the scapegoat. If you can mix in some future magic as well for increased impact, things will be even smoother. They won't understand what hit them until you are happily jacking off to your offline p0rn again.
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On January 11 2017 12:23 Cascade wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2017 11:33 Yoav wrote:
I've always thought infant CPR would be the easiest impressive thing to bring as a skill. It's really easy to do, requires no tools, has a ridiculously good success rate, and would earn you massive goodwill in a way that doesn't scream witchcraft. As long as you're making your name as a healer and not a destroyer or a conjurer of cheap tricks, things are gonna look better for you.
Here's the real issue though; if you could grant that society all that technology and all that power... would you? Do you really think the problem with history is that our technology advanced too slowly? Or is the danger that it advanced too fast for our morality to keep up? Would your "help" ultimately just result in a nuclear apocalypse fought out between the Valois and the Hapsburgs over some shit province in Italy? It should, but even if you try to gain power/influence by doing good, you will still be taking it from someone established, t hat won't be happy about it. There will already be someone that is the village authority on what to do with infants in need of CPR, and that person won't be happy with you barging in trying to claim that authority. I wish the world was such that the superior outcome of your method would smoothly shift authority over to you, but seeing how we struggle with that still today, I wouldn't rely on it in the dark ages. I'd say that if you want to gain power at any cost, I'd take a page from today's politics methods instead. Identify the people you want to get loyalty from (I guess you start with local village council, and work your way up towards the king or w/e), identify what problems they have, come up with a scapegoat for their problems, fling dirt on the scapegoat and claim that you have easy solutions, mainly involving going after the scapegoat. If you can mix in some future magic as well for increased impact, things will be even smoother. They won't understand what hit them until you are happily jacking off to your offline p0rn again.
It isn't like he should be all-in one way or another. The important thing is that you need to integrate into society, and then show value to that society using the knowledge from your superior education. Don't waste any tech on people that don't have the money to pay you for it.
Simple things like CPR, clean bandages, and washing hands can be given "for free/after you prove yourself worthy to whoever is in charge of caring for people in that town. Florence Nightingale was one of the biggest boons in healthcare and 90% of what she offered was reminders to wash hands and instruments before surgery.
More complex things like mathematical equations, basic scientific concepts, etc... you save for the leaders, builders, and engineers.
Truly interesting things like water wheels, steam engines, irrigation systems--save that for bigger fish like feudal lords and kings.
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