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Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
December 12 2016 21:34 GMT
#10781
On December 13 2016 06:21 Simberto wrote:
There are probably a lot of different conspiracy theories out there.

As far as i know, there are even some people who claim that the moon isn't real. So if that is the case, then of course none of the moon landings could have been real.

In my opinion, if you already think the first moon landing is fake, there is no reason to believe any of the following are real. Why go for the "Moon landings are slightly harder then we were told, and only happened a few years later" conspiracy, that sounds incredibly boring. I would assume that if you are into conspiracies, you might as well go with "Moon landings with rockets are impossible, and thus all of them have been faked, except for the Nazi Reichsflugscheiben Moon landing in 1936.", that sounds like a lot more fun.


American moon landings are fake videos that the world uses as cover up to stifle USSR's position in global power. Fellow comrads must unite to overthrow the oppressive capitalists pigs from pretending they have superior technology than mother Russia.

Putin also fake, puppet actor hired by west to pretend he is leader of "Russia" to convince the world the USSR has fallen when in truth we currently busy fighting underground war with capitalist scum in the labyrinthian tunnels beneath Siberia. The bear will rise again! Join us fellow comrads! Overthrow American tyranny! Zombie Lenin needs you!
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
December 12 2016 21:36 GMT
#10782
On December 13 2016 06:34 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2016 06:21 Simberto wrote:
There are probably a lot of different conspiracy theories out there.

As far as i know, there are even some people who claim that the moon isn't real. So if that is the case, then of course none of the moon landings could have been real.

In my opinion, if you already think the first moon landing is fake, there is no reason to believe any of the following are real. Why go for the "Moon landings are slightly harder then we were told, and only happened a few years later" conspiracy, that sounds incredibly boring. I would assume that if you are into conspiracies, you might as well go with "Moon landings with rockets are impossible, and thus all of them have been faked, except for the Nazi Reichsflugscheiben Moon landing in 1936.", that sounds like a lot more fun.


American moon landings are fake videos that the world uses as cover up to stifle USSR's position in global power. Fellow comrads must unite to overthrow the oppressive capitalists pigs from pretending they have superior technology than mother Russia.

Putin also fake, puppet actor hired by west to pretend he is leader of "Russia" to convince the world the USSR has fallen when in truth we currently busy fighting underground war with capitalist scum in the labyrinthian tunnels beneath Siberia. The bear will rise again! Join us fellow comrads! Overthrow American tyranny! Zombie Lenin needs you!



so basically this?

"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 12 2016 22:07 GMT
#10783
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 13 2016 23:56 GMT
#10784
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Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-14 02:29:28
December 14 2016 02:29 GMT
#10785
On December 14 2016 08:56 JimmiC wrote:
This is a stupid tech question so maybe it doesn't belong here but.... MY wifi on my laptop works fine but I when I game I get ping spikes so I always plugged it in. Now it won't work. I know its not the cord or the router because I have to hard Ethernet in my printer. Is there a setting I can change or way I can check the port or something? I feel like it's super easy and I'm just dumb with computers.

There is a tech support forum: here.
You'll want to be way more specific though. "Now it won't work" is completely useless information for anyone trying to help you. Read the thread I linked, and specifically you want to address

1) What do I want to happen? What used to happen before the problem appeared?
2) exactly what happens. Exactly what step deviates from expected behaviour, and what happens instead?
3) What have you done to diagnose the problem?

Step 3) really should include, apart from anything obvious you can come up with, a google search for the issue, and a summary of what you found and how you followed up on that.

good luck.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 14 2016 02:46 GMT
#10786
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Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
December 14 2016 02:54 GMT
#10787
On December 14 2016 11:46 JimmiC wrote:
Thanks. I bumped that thread from last post may 2014 hopefully I don't get in trouble! Makes sense why I didn't see it.

So new dumb question whats the oldest thread you have bumped? Mine was not used for 2.5 years!


13th century book binding. Never bumped thread older than that.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
December 14 2016 03:19 GMT
#10788
what would happen if you took someone who thought the earth was flat into outer space?
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4440 Posts
December 14 2016 03:31 GMT
#10789
On December 14 2016 12:19 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
what would happen if you took someone who thought the earth was flat into outer space?

That would be a very expensive example of confirmation bias
Sucker for nostalgia
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
December 14 2016 03:52 GMT
#10790
On December 14 2016 12:31 DropBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 12:19 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
what would happen if you took someone who thought the earth was flat into outer space?

That would be a very expensive example of confirmation bias


Assuming space is real and not a hoax by the round earther movement with all their excuses. "Oh, it's too expensive" "Oh, there are international guidelines" "Oh, we're not allowed to steal a shuttle from Russia"
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
December 14 2016 04:35 GMT
#10791
On December 14 2016 12:19 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
what would happen if you took someone who thought the earth was flat into outer space?

I'd instantly convert to flat earth.
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
December 14 2016 05:09 GMT
#10792
On December 14 2016 12:19 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
what would happen if you took someone who thought the earth was flat into outer space?


What if I made an elaborate simulator that pretended to be a rocket and pretended to show you the earth was really flat?

+ Show Spoiler +
Also, as a historical POI, Flat Earth theories are comparatively rare. Most people at most times knew the world was round.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12068 Posts
December 14 2016 06:10 GMT
#10793
Also, if you are in space, the earth still looks flat. You just look at it from directly up top.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
December 14 2016 08:42 GMT
#10794
On December 14 2016 15:10 Simberto wrote:
Also, if you are in space, the earth still looks flat. You just look at it from directly up top.

But unless you're in geosynchronous orbit, what part you see keeps changing. And if you look out the window during take-off you will see the horizon go from flat to rounded to wrapped around itself.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
December 14 2016 09:03 GMT
#10795
On December 14 2016 17:42 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 15:10 Simberto wrote:
Also, if you are in space, the earth still looks flat. You just look at it from directly up top.

But unless you're in geosynchronous orbit, what part you see keeps changing. And if you look out the window during take-off you will see the horizon go from flat to rounded to wrapped around itself.

It's a perspective and atmosphere effect. You just travel above the flat earth really high up.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12068 Posts
December 14 2016 11:55 GMT
#10796
On December 14 2016 18:03 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 17:42 Acrofales wrote:
On December 14 2016 15:10 Simberto wrote:
Also, if you are in space, the earth still looks flat. You just look at it from directly up top.

But unless you're in geosynchronous orbit, what part you see keeps changing. And if you look out the window during take-off you will see the horizon go from flat to rounded to wrapped around itself.

It's a perspective and atmosphere effect. You just travel above the flat earth really high up.


Indeed, it really isn't hard to understand. The atmosphere refracts light depending on temperature. You can even see this for yourself by looking over a road on a hot day and view the ripples. Now, when compared to the icy coldness of space, the earth is incredibly hot. This means that there is a very large, and most importantly, orderly refraction of light in the atmosphere. Thus, the atmosphere acts like a gigantic lense, so when you look down from space, you don't actually see all of the earth below you, you see a part as if looking through a looking glass. If you move about only slightly above the earth, the part that you watch moves around, but the shape of the looking glass stays the same. You can observe this effect yourself with any simple lense.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-14 11:59:37
December 14 2016 11:59 GMT
#10797
On December 14 2016 20:55 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 18:03 Cascade wrote:
On December 14 2016 17:42 Acrofales wrote:
On December 14 2016 15:10 Simberto wrote:
Also, if you are in space, the earth still looks flat. You just look at it from directly up top.

But unless you're in geosynchronous orbit, what part you see keeps changing. And if you look out the window during take-off you will see the horizon go from flat to rounded to wrapped around itself.

It's a perspective and atmosphere effect. You just travel above the flat earth really high up.


Indeed, it really isn't hard to understand. The atmosphere refracts light depending on temperature. You can even see this for yourself by looking over a road on a hot day and view the ripples. Now, when compared to the icy coldness of space, the earth is incredibly hot. This means that there is a very large, and most importantly, orderly refraction of light in the atmosphere. Thus, the atmosphere acts like a gigantic lense, so when you look down from space, you don't actually see all of the earth below you, you see a part as if looking through a looking glass. If you move about only slightly above the earth, the part that you watch moves around, but the shape of the looking glass stays the same. You can observe this effect yourself with any simple lense.

Okay. I am thoroughy convinced. Just one question. Is the moon made of cheese? If so, I'm totally sold on this radical new (old) idea.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
December 14 2016 12:14 GMT
#10798
On December 14 2016 20:55 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 18:03 Cascade wrote:
On December 14 2016 17:42 Acrofales wrote:
On December 14 2016 15:10 Simberto wrote:
Also, if you are in space, the earth still looks flat. You just look at it from directly up top.

But unless you're in geosynchronous orbit, what part you see keeps changing. And if you look out the window during take-off you will see the horizon go from flat to rounded to wrapped around itself.

It's a perspective and atmosphere effect. You just travel above the flat earth really high up.


Indeed, it really isn't hard to understand. The atmosphere refracts light depending on temperature. You can even see this for yourself by looking over a road on a hot day and view the ripples. Now, when compared to the icy coldness of space, the earth is incredibly hot. This means that there is a very large, and most importantly, orderly refraction of light in the atmosphere. Thus, the atmosphere acts like a gigantic lense, so when you look down from space, you don't actually see all of the earth below you, you see a part as if looking through a looking glass. If you move about only slightly above the earth, the part that you watch moves around, but the shape of the looking glass stays the same. You can observe this effect yourself with any simple lense.


There is a great science fiction story about a planet where the refraction goes the other way and you can basically see all around the planet, so from the ground it looks like there is this huge spherical cavern with the Sun in the center surrounded by the surface of the planet and the rest of the existence is just the ground - maybe there could be other similar caverns, but noone can ever know.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9335 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-14 12:24:59
December 14 2016 12:19 GMT
#10799
What would be the most optimal weapon for space commandos of 2030? Railguns? Lasers? Normal guns?

You're now breathing manually
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
December 14 2016 12:24 GMT
#10800
On December 14 2016 21:14 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 20:55 Simberto wrote:
On December 14 2016 18:03 Cascade wrote:
On December 14 2016 17:42 Acrofales wrote:
On December 14 2016 15:10 Simberto wrote:
Also, if you are in space, the earth still looks flat. You just look at it from directly up top.

But unless you're in geosynchronous orbit, what part you see keeps changing. And if you look out the window during take-off you will see the horizon go from flat to rounded to wrapped around itself.

It's a perspective and atmosphere effect. You just travel above the flat earth really high up.


Indeed, it really isn't hard to understand. The atmosphere refracts light depending on temperature. You can even see this for yourself by looking over a road on a hot day and view the ripples. Now, when compared to the icy coldness of space, the earth is incredibly hot. This means that there is a very large, and most importantly, orderly refraction of light in the atmosphere. Thus, the atmosphere acts like a gigantic lense, so when you look down from space, you don't actually see all of the earth below you, you see a part as if looking through a looking glass. If you move about only slightly above the earth, the part that you watch moves around, but the shape of the looking glass stays the same. You can observe this effect yourself with any simple lense.


There is a great science fiction story about a planet where the refraction goes the other way and you can basically see all around the planet, so from the ground it looks like there is this huge spherical cavern with the Sun in the center surrounded by the surface of the planet and the rest of the existence is just the ground - maybe there could be other similar caverns, but noone can ever know.


Sounds good. As I was googling what kind of atmosphere could possibly produce such an effect, I stumbled upon this. I didn't want to withhold it from you good people:
https://www.intellihub.com/intelligent-invisible-terrestrial-entities-found-using-concave-lens-roaming-freely-in-atmosphere-sky/
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