|
On July 29 2016 17:00 Dan HH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2016 16:25 OtherWorld wrote:On July 29 2016 13:17 GreenHorizons wrote:
What's the deal with unisex names in Germany and other parts of Europe? Well, they exist, and most of the time it's not "new" or "modern" names. Examples that come to my mind in French are Camille, Pascal(e), Morgan(e), André(e). I wouldn't call those unisex names other than Camille, since they have gender based differences. They're no different than Stephen/Stephanie, Paul/Paula and so on. Not sure what names he's talking about, but the question implies that it's a different convention than in Anglo places.
So the extra "e" is only there in the female name I guess? Does it change pronunciation?
|
I was wondering why some countries had laws about it, some stricter than others?
Like if 10 years ago someone named their baby girl the German (in Germany) equivalent of Steve what would have happened? other countries inside and outside of Europe? And what is/was the resistance to junking those types of laws ?
|
There are some of them in The Netherlands but not a lot.
Edit: nobody is not going to care about some ridiculous law (not even sure of it exists in NL)
|
On July 29 2016 17:16 GreenHorizons wrote:
I was wondering why some countries had laws about it, some stricter than others?
Like if 10 years ago someone named their baby girl the German (in Germany) equivalent of Steve what would have happened? other countries inside and outside of Europe? And what is/was the resistance to junking those types of laws ?
There was a controversial case earlier this year when French parents named their baby 'Nutella' and a judge changed her name to 'Ella'. The idea was to keep her from being teased by other kids. I imagine it worked the same way in your scenario, with judges being able to rename the baby if the parents refused to. Not sure if it was enforced though.
|
Interesting - I can't really think of any German first names that are unisex except for nicknames. But 'Maria' definately works as middle name for males.
|
On July 29 2016 17:29 Dan HH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2016 17:16 GreenHorizons wrote:
I was wondering why some countries had laws about it, some stricter than others?
Like if 10 years ago someone named their baby girl the German (in Germany) equivalent of Steve what would have happened? other countries inside and outside of Europe? And what is/was the resistance to junking those types of laws ? There was a controversial case earlier this year when French parents named their baby 'Nutella' and a judge changed her name to 'Ella'. The idea was to keep her from being teased by other kids. I imagine it worked the same way in your scenario, with judges being able to rename the baby if the parents refused to. Not sure if it was enforced though.
Yeah, I'd think most countries have systems where you don't allow names that would in practice make the child suffer. You wouldn't be allowed to name your kid "asshole" for example. I'd guess you could invoke that kind of more general rules to veto names that are associated with the other gender, even if there are no explicit rules against wrong gender names.
|
On July 29 2016 17:49 Khalum wrote:
Interesting - I can't really think of any German first names that are unisex except for nicknames. But 'Maria' definately works as middle name for males.
Never heard that for a male.
Edit: nvm, just tought of someone that actually has it as a middle Name ^^
|
as male equivalents: Mariano, Marion, Marian, Marianus and there may be more.
|
On July 29 2016 17:10 Cascade wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2016 17:00 Dan HH wrote:On July 29 2016 16:25 OtherWorld wrote:On July 29 2016 13:17 GreenHorizons wrote:
What's the deal with unisex names in Germany and other parts of Europe? Well, they exist, and most of the time it's not "new" or "modern" names. Examples that come to my mind in French are Camille, Pascal(e), Morgan(e), André(e). I wouldn't call those unisex names other than Camille, since they have gender based differences. They're no different than Stephen/Stephanie, Paul/Paula and so on. Not sure what names he's talking about, but the question implies that it's a different convention than in Anglo places. So the extra "e" is only there in the female name I guess? Does it change pronunciation?
e is silent in those cases; pronunciation is supposed to be the same ...
I have sometimes heard people use pas-ca-le in three syllables to stress they are talking about a woman when the usual is pas-cal in two syllables for both.
Looking at Wiki unisex French names
20+ common ones that are spelt the same; if you include those with the same pronunciation and gender spelling differences there are 50 total listed. I know of both men and women with those names for 34 out of 50.
|
On July 29 2016 20:24 xM(Z wrote:
as male equivalents: Mariano, Marion, Marian, Marianus and there may be more.
I think he means in the Maria form, as in Jose Maria Morelos or Francesco Maria Della Rovere. Though I can't think of any Germans that have it as middle name, might be a more recent thing for them.
|
On July 29 2016 20:51 Dan HH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2016 20:24 xM(Z wrote:
as male equivalents: Mariano, Marion, Marian, Marianus and there may be more. I think he means in the Maria form, as in Jose Maria Morelos or Francesco Maria Della Rovere. Though I can't think of any Germans that have it as middle name, might be a more recent thing for them.
There is a bad and annoying, but for some reason popular (don't know if he still is, i am kind of out of the circuit since is stopped having a TV) comedian called Markus Maria Profitlich.
Also, according to my girlfriend Belgians get a female name as a middle name when they do the catholic coming of age thingy (forgot what it is called)
|
On July 29 2016 20:51 Dan HH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2016 20:24 xM(Z wrote:
as male equivalents: Mariano, Marion, Marian, Marianus and there may be more. I think he means in the Maria form, as in Jose Maria Morelos or Francesco Maria Della Rovere. Though I can't think of any Germans that have it as middle name, might be a more recent thing for them.
Klaus Maria Brandauer is a pretty famous example I'd say. Not technically speaking a German but we speak German here too... After reading up on it a bit I gathered that this might be a Catholic thing.
|
On July 29 2016 17:00 Dan HH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2016 16:25 OtherWorld wrote:On July 29 2016 13:17 GreenHorizons wrote:
What's the deal with unisex names in Germany and other parts of Europe? Well, they exist, and most of the time it's not "new" or "modern" names. Examples that come to my mind in French are Camille, Pascal(e), Morgan(e), André(e). I wouldn't call those unisex names other than Camille, since they have gender based differences. They're no different than Stephen/Stephanie, Paul/Paula and so on. Not sure what names he's talking about, but the question implies that it's a different convention than in Anglo places.
That's true, they're not really unisex. Orally they are though, and names were more oral than written for a long time.
|
|
|
In Italy we have a few unisex names like
Andrea
Celeste
Mattia (this last one is weird:in the north it's only for males, in the south it's much more rare but it's only for females)
Also many religious families choose to give Maria as second name for males, and on the same line we have many composed names like
Piermaria (Pietro+Maria)
Gianmaria (Gianni+Maria)
Strong religious influences (as always)...
|
The Welsh seems to be much more nationalist/proud of their culture and heritage than the Scots (daily use of a language radically different from English, Welsh flags literally everywhere, etc), yet I don't get the feeling that Welsh independance is knocking at the door, unlike the Scottish independance. Why is that?
|
It probably has something to do with socio-economic issues, isolation and territory. Also maybe the feel that they're being left behind more (maybe they actually have been ignored/left behind more than other parts of the UK, idk)
|
I woke up 2 days ago with pain in my left knee for no reason that I can remember, it was on top of the kneecap and when I bent my leg in and out it was a bit painful but not too bad so I just walked and ran on it all day until it got crippling and had to start limping around. At night it was so bad that I had to lift my leg onto the bed and had trouble sleeping. I woke up again yesterday and it was worse so I just lounged around at the computer all day with my leg extended in the least uncomfortable position, limping up and down the stairs one step at a time with my messed up leg straight. I woke up this morning, day 3, pain is gone but I can feel I have to be careful. I think in a couple of days it'll be like new.
So my question is, what the fuck hurts so much and heals so fast?
|
Probably a patella tracking issue; sometime the kneecap can become slightly dislodged from its normal path of movement and there can be lingering pain even if the patella is back where it should be. If it starts happening regularly, there are knee tracking leg exercises that can help.
|
On July 30 2016 23:13 Djzapz wrote:
I woke up 2 days ago with pain in my left knee for no reason that I can remember, it was on top of the kneecap and when I bent my leg in and out it was a bit painful but not too bad so I just walked and ran on it all day until it got crippling and had to start limping around. At night it was so bad that I had to lift my leg onto the bed and had trouble sleeping. I woke up again yesterday and it was worse so I just lounged around at the computer all day with my leg extended in the least uncomfortable position, limping up and down the stairs one step at a time with my messed up leg straight. I woke up this morning, day 3, pain is gone but I can feel I have to be careful. I think in a couple of days it'll be like new.
So my question is, what the fuck hurts so much and heals so fast?
Let me check webMD.
It says you need to amputate right now.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
