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waffelz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Germany711 Posts
June 21 2016 21:05 GMT
#9221
It might be BS but it seemed to work pretty fast multiple times for various kind of nosebleeds, explanation might be utter bs of course(but it wasn't about detecting bloodloss but rather running low on fluids. Your mouth will get a lot more dry as well). I will mark it as "probably lucky coincidence" for myself.
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Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
June 21 2016 22:11 GMT
#9222
Well, by bloodloss I didn't mean bloodloss per se, rather a lack of intravascular fluid (which is how you would run low on fluids). But if it works for you, go for it by all means - I was just curious
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
June 21 2016 23:51 GMT
#9223
I thought first thing to do when you have a nosebleed was to post on a gaming forum and ask for advice? Isn't that what they teach in MD school ghostcom?
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-22 02:53:18
June 22 2016 02:52 GMT
#9224
I posted on facebook too, don't worry, I take my health VERY seriously.

It stopped, I don't know when it stopped being like, faucet levels of blood, but it stopped overall like ~2hrs later, after an hour after it started it was down to a trickle of blood.

Felt pretty dizzy for a bit but like four hours later I felt pretty okay.

On a side note, it is now bleeding again, started like 30 minutes ago. :D

Now for the important stuff;

How much blood is too much blood to lose? Cause I straight up saturated like 4 sheets of papertowels full with blood this morning and thats not even counting the time I bled while I got and stuffed my nose with papertowels.

EDIT: Also my current nosebleed's blood was pretty watery, is this a problem?

Am I just a mess in every conceivable way?
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5160 Posts
June 22 2016 03:10 GMT
#9225
Watery in the sense that it has less colour or that it's less viscous? In any way, your body needs time to remake all the lost factors from your previous epic nosebleed. I'm talking proteins, red blood cells, platelets, clotting factors, cells from the immune system. This could be why it's more watery if I had to guess.

As the reason why you have these nosebleeds, there could be many reasons, one less severe than the other I guess. How hot is it where you are right now?
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 22 2016 03:18 GMT
#9226
On June 22 2016 11:52 Zambrah wrote:
I posted on facebook too, don't worry, I take my health VERY seriously.

It stopped, I don't know when it stopped being like, faucet levels of blood, but it stopped overall like ~2hrs later, after an hour after it started it was down to a trickle of blood.

Felt pretty dizzy for a bit but like four hours later I felt pretty okay.

On a side note, it is now bleeding again, started like 30 minutes ago. :D

Now for the important stuff;

How much blood is too much blood to lose? Cause I straight up saturated like 4 sheets of papertowels full with blood this morning and thats not even counting the time I bled while I got and stuffed my nose with papertowels.

EDIT: Also my current nosebleed's blood was pretty watery, is this a problem?

Am I just a mess in every conceivable way?


You should definitely see a doctor.

If it's watery it means it's showing no signs of clotting yet. People can technically lose half a litre of blood "safely" (since that's what people donate), and it's only until about 1 litre that you go into shock, but I'd be highly alarmed if I bled out that much.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-22 03:45:08
June 22 2016 03:19 GMT
#9227
Its like 70, quite beautiful out, rained this morning so the humidity is at a nice place too.

Had a terrible sickness that I cant identify, the symptoms were... inconsistent. I assume that all the sneezing, nose blowing, and air breathing at night caused a lot of it.

I dunno how moist air needs to be to not dry me nose out, but air with rain in it still made my nasal cavities all dry.

EDIT: So I went to work today, I was really tempted to go to the emergency room since it seemed like, just so much blood, but I'm on a probationary period since I'm new and I can't take the financial hit, so I spent the day doing some heavy lifting-ish stuff, a lot of manual labor.

Also what do I do if I have no doctor/insurance/money for doctor?

EDIT: Also, woot 3000th post! The blood loss has all been worth it!
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 22 2016 03:52 GMT
#9228
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-22 04:08:41
June 22 2016 04:00 GMT
#9229
To trail on the stupid questions;

How does health insurance work? Does it cover most of the cost? All of it? Little of it? Is there a set amount per year?

I know the place I work for (Home Depot) offers Health insurance, Life insurance, Optical insurance, Dental insurance, and what not so maybe I should think about that, but what if I don't plan to be with the company long term?

And now my nose isn't bleeding normally, its like, mixed in with viscious mucus in a way that says it might still be bleeding somewhere, but its also really mixed in with this mucus so I dunno
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 22 2016 04:12 GMT
#9230
On June 22 2016 13:00 Zambrah wrote:
To trail on the stupid questions;

How does health insurance work? Does it cover most of the cost? All of it? Little of it? Is there a set amount per year?

I know the place I work for (Home Depot) offers Health insurance, Life insurance, Optical insurance, Dental insurance, and what not so maybe I should think about that, but what if I don't plan to be with the company long term?

And now my nose isn't bleeding normally, its like, mixed in with viscious mucus in a way that says it might still be bleeding somewhere, but its also really mixed in with this mucus so I dunno


As a Canadian the US health insurance system is a complete mystery to me, so I can only refer you to this page:https://www.usa.gov/finding-health-insurance.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17743 Posts
June 22 2016 05:15 GMT
#9231
What's with the gay pride everywhere? I must say I'm in the dark now. Is it because Orlando?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Khalum
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria831 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-22 05:27:24
June 22 2016 05:25 GMT
#9232
On June 22 2016 14:15 Manit0u wrote:
What's with the gay pride everywhere? I must say I'm in the dark now. Is it because Orlando?

This is my guess: https://www.loc.gov/lgbt/about.html

[edit] And I couldn't even imagine living in a country without "free" health insurance and paid sick days...
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-22 07:11:47
June 22 2016 07:05 GMT
#9233
There's this neat electrical engineering browser applet. It allows you to make circuits in it, but what made it particularly interesting to me is there was some additional sample circuits that showed you how the element worked and some common circuits.

The first few examples had only DC circuits with resistors, but then they added capacitors, AC circuits, induction coils for transformers, relays, amplifiers, filter circuits, diodes, and then transistors and so on.

It was a really neat app, as it would show you the current and voltage at all points of the circuit, and you'd usually have several of the quantities of the circuit of a slider, so you can alter say the frequency, capacitance, or the current to the base of the transistor and see how the circuit responded.

I'm wondering if anyone knows what I'm talking about and if they know this app, I would really like to find it again please. It made me really excited about circuits and I'd like to learn more about them and I can't find it Oh, and I believe it had a black background. Please make my childhood dreams come true (actually it's been like one year, I think I found it when trying to look for what the best circuit modelling software is, and someone on a forum mentioned this is a good one to learn from).
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18292 Posts
June 22 2016 10:39 GMT
#9234
I'll throw in my medical question:

The tops of my fingers and toes are numb, and have been for the last 3 days. My left-hand pinky finger is swollen up and that was the first symptom I really noticed. It started after coming back down to about 4000m altitude from the top of a 5900m high volcano. While climbing, my hands and feet got pretty cold, but on the way down they felt fine, hot even. I only noticed afterwards in the car, and since then have not been able to do anything about it.

I am in Bolivia, and so far, the medical outposts haven't been very useful. Haven't seen a doctor, because the only doctor in Uyuni was doing surgery when I went in there, and the Centro de Salud where I went first doesn't have a doctor, so only been treated by nurses, who all thought it was due to cold and gave me stuff to rub on my hands for that. My pressure was up, at first to 13/10 (my normal pressure back home is 12/8), so thew nurse gave me medication for that. In Uyuni it was down to 13/8, and the more sophisticated machine could also check my SpO2, which was consistently somewhere around 90 (measured by one of those things they just clip on your index finger), sometimes dropped a bit lower and sometimes a bit higher while I was sitting there.

I have now reached La Paz and will try to find another hospital with an actual doctor, but if somebody here has any idea: I don't really have all that much faith in the Bolivian medical system...
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
June 22 2016 10:50 GMT
#9235
On June 22 2016 16:05 FiWiFaKi wrote:
There's this neat electrical engineering browser applet. It allows you to make circuits in it, but what made it particularly interesting to me is there was some additional sample circuits that showed you how the element worked and some common circuits.

The first few examples had only DC circuits with resistors, but then they added capacitors, AC circuits, induction coils for transformers, relays, amplifiers, filter circuits, diodes, and then transistors and so on.

It was a really neat app, as it would show you the current and voltage at all points of the circuit, and you'd usually have several of the quantities of the circuit of a slider, so you can alter say the frequency, capacitance, or the current to the base of the transistor and see how the circuit responded.

I'm wondering if anyone knows what I'm talking about and if they know this app, I would really like to find it again please. It made me really excited about circuits and I'd like to learn more about them and I can't find it Oh, and I believe it had a black background. Please make my childhood dreams come true (actually it's been like one year, I think I found it when trying to look for what the best circuit modelling software is, and someone on a forum mentioned this is a good one to learn from).


Probably it is cadence schematic editor if you see it in a professional electronics engineering environment. It'll not be free though.

http://www.cadence.com

I built a life on using that tool . Feel free to ask anything about circuits.

“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-22 11:17:14
June 22 2016 11:11 GMT
#9236
All Fingers/toes are numb? And only left pinky swollen? Sounds pretty odd. Have you been diving recently? No matter how little faith you have in the Bolivian doctors they are going to be much better equipped to diagnose you - simply because they can actually examine you. Good luck.

Also, a young human being can compensate for about 40-50% blood loss before it is irreversible without external help. That being said. If you lose about a half a litre you'll probably begin to be dizzy, a litre and you are as someone said running the risk of hypovolemic shock.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18292 Posts
June 22 2016 11:43 GMT
#9237
On June 22 2016 20:11 Ghostcom wrote:
All Fingers/toes are numb? And only left pinky swollen? Sounds pretty odd. Have you been diving recently? No matter how little faith you have in the Bolivian doctors they are going to be much better equipped to diagnose you - simply because they can actually examine you. Good luck.

Also, a young human being can compensate for about 40-50% blood loss before it is irreversible without external help. That being said. If you lose about a half a litre you'll probably begin to be dizzy, a litre and you are as someone said running the risk of hypovolemic shock.

My left middle finger is also a little bit swollen. All fingers are numb, but only in the tips (except the swollen pinky, which is numb down to the first joint). It's bloody hard to type properly. My thumbs are fine. My toes are a bit different. Mostly the big toe on the left foot and the one next to it on the right foot, but the first 4 are at least a little bit numb.

Being a diver, I also thought of the bends, but I haven't been diving in about a year, and have not even snorkeled recently.

I was trying to make sense of my symptoms as part of Acute Mountain Sickness, but I don't have any of the usual symptoms, and have already descended back down to 3600 (was lower yesterday, but La Paz is a bit higher again). Before Uyuni I was at similar altitudes to now or higher with no problems (first mountains near Sucre, ~3400m, then Potosí, ~4000m).

I also have a cough, but it doesn't seem bad (it's not dry) and is more likely to be the vestige of the cold I had 2 weeks ago that never went away completely (started in Santa Cruz at negligible altitude and the cough developed in Samaipata at ~2800m, an altitude I have been to many many times before with no adverse effects).

And yeah, I will of course try more doctors here until someone fixes me :/
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11839 Posts
June 22 2016 12:04 GMT
#9238
On June 22 2016 20:11 Ghostcom wrote:
All Fingers/toes are numb? And only left pinky swollen? Sounds pretty odd. Have you been diving recently? No matter how little faith you have in the Bolivian doctors they are going to be much better equipped to diagnose you - simply because they can actually examine you. Good luck.

Also, a young human being can compensate for about 40-50% blood loss before it is irreversible without external help. That being said. If you lose about a half a litre you'll probably begin to be dizzy, a litre and you are as someone said running the risk of hypovolemic shock.


As someone who donates blood regularly, i can say that half a litre of blood is (at least for me) no problem at all. I may be not the best self-observer, but i don't really feel any different whatsoever after they suck out half a litre of my blood.

Might also depend on the circumstances.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
June 22 2016 12:12 GMT
#9239
On June 22 2016 21:04 Simberto wrote:
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On June 22 2016 20:11 Ghostcom wrote:
All Fingers/toes are numb? And only left pinky swollen? Sounds pretty odd. Have you been diving recently? No matter how little faith you have in the Bolivian doctors they are going to be much better equipped to diagnose you - simply because they can actually examine you. Good luck.

Also, a young human being can compensate for about 40-50% blood loss before it is irreversible without external help. That being said. If you lose about a half a litre you'll probably begin to be dizzy, a litre and you are as someone said running the risk of hypovolemic shock.


As someone who donates blood regularly, i can say that half a litre of blood is (at least for me) no problem at all. I may be not the best self-observer, but i don't really feel any different whatsoever after they suck out half a litre of my blood.

Might also depend on the circumstances.


Depends on circumstances, your size, your level of fitness, your age, and how physical active you are right after. Personally I've learned that running 10 km in the evening is not the brightest idea (I hadn't felt anything up until that point).
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43991 Posts
June 22 2016 15:35 GMT
#9240
On June 22 2016 13:00 Zambrah wrote:
To trail on the stupid questions;

How does health insurance work? Does it cover most of the cost? All of it? Little of it? Is there a set amount per year?

I know the place I work for (Home Depot) offers Health insurance, Life insurance, Optical insurance, Dental insurance, and what not so maybe I should think about that, but what if I don't plan to be with the company long term?

And now my nose isn't bleeding normally, its like, mixed in with viscious mucus in a way that says it might still be bleeding somewhere, but its also really mixed in with this mucus so I dunno

So different insurance companies offer different insurance plans which cost different amounts and offer different services. However you can't directly shop with them, instead your employer acts as a go between for you and the insurance companies which themselves are a go between for hospitals and doctors etc. So your employer decides how much health insurance it needs to include within their health plans to get you to work for Home Depot. It's a part of your overall compensation package which means that if you have a bad employer trying to save money then they'll be shopping for the cheapest health insurance to offer you. So not all health insurance is born equal, there are great plans, good plans, bad plans and plans that don't really exist beyond trying to sound like they exist on paper, although Obamacare made most of the latter type illegal.

So, it's good that you're offered insurance and in the US where medical debt can be so crippling you should get it. But there is more to it than just getting insurance, you need to know what is in that insurance. When you need healthcare you are directly responsible for the bills and the insurance is just a way for you to defray the costs. So a good place to start is to see which hospitals/doctors/services they will reimburse you for, and which they will not. Not all plans are born equal there because you only get what your employer was willing to pay for and Home Depot don't have the same desire to retain skilled employees as, for example, Google.

A few other useful terms.

A deductible is an amount you pay before the insurance kicks in. So if you have a plan with, for example, a $5,000 deductible then you need to have $5,000 cash or credit available for medical bills, even if you have insurance, because although you'll only have to pay $5,000 for a procedure that costs $100,000 (assuming it is covered by your insurance) you'll also have to pay $5,000 for a procedure that costs $5,000, even if it is covered by your insurance.

Coinsurance is what can happen after the deductible is paid by you. Some plans have you 100% covered after the deductible so you'd pay your $5,000 deductible and anything after that is paid. Others engage in coinsurance where after the deductible you split the costs with them, for example, you pay 50% of all costs after the deductible (which you pay 100% of).

Copayment is where the healthcare provider agrees to provide the service for a nominal direct fee to you that has been prenegotiated by your insurance plan (and therefore indirectly by your employer). So even though a doctor's appointment may cost $100 for the hospital to provide they have agreed to provide it for you, the insured individual, for just $30 in exchange for getting a big chunk of $$$ from the insurance company. The $30 would be the copayment. It's a subsidized rate at which you buy the service.

Maximum dollar amount is the amount the insurer has to pay before they get to renege on their deal. Insurance is great deal for the insurer assuming nothing really bad ever happens and they never have to pay out a lot of money. They build a maximum dollar amount into the arrangement so that if your healthcare ever gets too expensive they can just fuck you over, despite the fact that you paid premiums to be insured against exactly this kind of thing.

Out of pocket maximum is the most you may have to pay in medical bills in a given year. If you have a $5,000 deductible and you had a bunch of healthcare needs, each of which cost <$5,000, your insurance wouldn't actually be paying for any of it and costs could rack up fast. An out of pocket maximum is an annual amount of money that you have to spend on healthcare after which the insurer will cover 100% of all costs.


There is, unfortunately, much more to it than this. But that's the bare minimum you need to know so you can work out what the fuck the health insurance plan you're being offered actually does. Also remember that your employer is not your friend, they want to give you as little as possible to keep you, it's no different from a salary negotiation. If the healthcare plan sucks then you should feel the same as if your pay sucks. At a big company like Home Depot there probably isn't much your boss can do about it if you voice your complaints (beyond passing them up the ladder and hoping that a lot of other people have the same complaints) but at smaller companies if bad healthcare is bringing down your overall compensation package then that is something the management can absolutely address as a way to retain talent. People hate on insurance companies, and not without reason, but a lot of the time they're denying things because the employer told them not to cover that.
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