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Oh yeah.. and that's so sad, I wanted to cry the first time I heard that. Let's "Kardashian up" the dictionary... T.T
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Figuratively speaking, that news is literally destroying my confidence in humanity--literally.
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On May 04 2016 06:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 04:17 OtherWorld wrote:On May 04 2016 04:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On May 04 2016 03:46 OtherWorld wrote:On May 04 2016 03:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On May 04 2016 02:31 OtherWorld wrote:On May 04 2016 00:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On May 04 2016 00:07 OtherWorld wrote:On May 04 2016 00:01 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
The person who put the sticker on the car should be held accountable for any direct damage done as the sticker gets pulled off, but not really for the indirect damage caused by someone else getting offended and further vandalizing the vehicle.
The person who keyed the car should be responsible for that destruction of property.
If the person putting the sticker on the car gets in trouble for someone else getting offended and acting upon the sticker, then where do we draw the line? I'd imagine a slippery slope could start where people get in trouble for putting their own bumper stickers on their own cars, if it incites violence or destruction of property. I'd imagine that people could get in trouble for the destruction of property if they put little slips of paper/ advertisements on the windshield asking for charity donations or supporting a noble cause, if someone gets "offended" by them and takes action. But what if the guy putting the stickers does it with the intent of someone deteriorating the car? Good question; I don't know. I still feel like the whole "He triggered me into committing violence" is a childish argument. The sticker guy is a dick, but you should have enough self-control not to destroy property simply because you see something that offends you. Grow up, recognize that there's such a thing as freedom of expression, recognize that you're not going to agree with everyone on everything, and just ignore it. Should adults need to be told *not* to destroy property? Meh. I'm not excusing the guy who keyed the car. I'm just saying that saying "The one who puts the sticker should hold all the responsability" is, as a general statement, as invalid as "The one who puts the sticker should all no responsability at all". 1. Why though? Why is it invalid to say that the sticker dick (...dick sticker? >.> ) needs some level of responsibility? 2. I feel like that means that there is a well-known expectation for the visibility of that Trump sticker to incite rage and physical violence, but actual Trump supporters put pro-Trump stickers on their cars all the time... should they expect their car to be damaged? Are they responsible for their own car being damaged (even partially)? 3. Is someone with a generally peaceful bumper sticker (e.g., COEXIST stickers with letters made from religious symbols, or a picture of a puppy or something) also partially responsible if their car is damaged because "their sticker incited it and they should know better than to instigate"? 4. Where does one draw the line on stickers and doodads and decorations? It seems subjective and borderline arbitrary, so I feel like it's sensible to say "As long as you're not doing something illegal, you have freedom of expression. People may not like it, and you might get ridiculed or yelled at, but you and your property shouldn't be physically attacked because of a sticker." 1. Precisely, it's not invalid to say that the sticker dick has some level of responsability. It's invalid to say that he holds no responsability in all situations (because of the intent thing I talked about earlier), or that he holds full responsability in all situations (pretty obviously because the guy who does the act is first and foremost responsible). 2. Tbh the Trump thing is more of an example to me, I have no idea how likely your car is to get damaged if you put a Trump sticker on it. But assuming it's the case, then yes, the Trump supporter is responsible for his own car being damaged. Just like for point (1), he's neither at 100% nor 0% responsability, but he has some level of responsability. It does not mean, however that the guys damaging his car are right to do it ; it does not justify. But it can partly explain it. 3. I'd say it depends on how consensual the sticker is. A relatively consensual sticker (said consensuality depends on where your car is located, ofc) will give you little responsability, because tbh a guy who damages a car for the sole reason of a puppy sticker is an ass lol. 4. Once again, I'm not saying that displaying sticker X should or should not get you harmed in some ideal world where everyone's tolerance is as high as Mick Jagger in the early 70s, I'm saying that it is reasonable to expect from some people holding a given view to react in unreasonable ways when faced with certain situations. It doesn't mean that you should be harmed, but it does mean that being harmed is among the possible consequences, and that you're responsible for ignoring or not ignoring these potential consequences. That, however, does not justifiy the offender's actions, nor does it protect them from legal consequences. I'm definitely on board with the idea that the existence of the Trump sticker can partly *explain* why the assailant damaged the car, but I'm not quite sold on the fact that the person who put the sticker there should therefore be *blamed*. I don't think one necessarily implies the other. I also don't think it's reasonable to assume that people's cars will be damaged due to bumper stickers. It's a comparatively rare occurrence, but perhaps the actual message on the bumper sticker is what matters? If it's "Vote for Trump", then that's relatively docile. If it's "Vote for Trump and Fuck All You Niggers", then clearly you shouldn't be driving around Newark... I guess I'd need more context and need to go on a case-by-case basis. But I didn't say that the one who put the sticker should be blamed. I said that he had responsability, assuming the car was damaged because of the sticker and not because of another reason. Then you're free to blame him or not ; it'll mainly depend on the specifics of the situation. Ah, I don't want any equivocation between those words... I was responding with the intent of saying "should be held partially responsible legally", and I thought that I could use "blame" to mean exactly that, as opposed to having a choice or being free to blame him or not.
Err, legally I guess depending on case-by-case the sticker guy could be held responsible depending on the kind of sticker he puts relatively to the car's environment.
On May 04 2016 11:01 thePunGun wrote:Ok, I got one! Why do people say stuff like " You know it's actually kind of funny....." and what follows is definitely NOT funny and all of sudden, you wished you'd get the seconds of your life back, that you've just invested in that particular conversation. Or why is it, that 99% of people use the word "literally" wrong over and over again?! Seriously I'll tell the next one to "figuratively f*** off!"edit: sorry it has.....been a ..just one of those...days... 
People say "funny" because they somehow don't know the word "singular" exists to express what they want to express.
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On May 04 2016 10:47 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 09:46 TMagpie wrote:
It's often said that there are no stupid questions--but are there? Does a question have the capacity for intelligence? I don't think it does, as the act of stringing together the words needed to formulate a question is done by the entity asking the question. So, no, there are no stupid questions. Only stupid people.
Some questions point towards the person being stupid though, or at least uneducated.  I guess that's what people usually mean with stupid question.
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On May 04 2016 19:38 Cascade wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 10:47 Fecalfeast wrote:On May 04 2016 09:46 TMagpie wrote:
It's often said that there are no stupid questions--but are there? Does a question have the capacity for intelligence? I don't think it does, as the act of stringing together the words needed to formulate a question is done by the entity asking the question. So, no, there are no stupid questions. Only stupid people. Some questions point towards the person being stupid though, or at least uneducated. I guess that's what people usually mean with stupid question.
Yeah, a question that implies the stupidity of the questioner, rather than some inherent intelligence (or lack thereof) from a series of words strung together.
But I feel like Fecalfeast already knew that 
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On May 04 2016 13:45 thePunGun wrote:Oh yeah.. and that's so sad, I wanted to cry the first time I heard that. Let's "Kardashian up" the dictionary... T.T
Why? Language is made by its usage too - space-timeless grammar is intellectual masturbation.
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On May 04 2016 21:18 SoSexy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 13:45 thePunGun wrote:Oh yeah.. and that's so sad, I wanted to cry the first time I heard that. Let's "Kardashian up" the dictionary... T.T Why? Language is made by its usage too - space-timeless grammar is intellectual masturbation.
Is Intellectual Masturbation the only form of masturbation allowed in public?
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On May 05 2016 00:29 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 21:18 SoSexy wrote:On May 04 2016 13:45 thePunGun wrote:Oh yeah.. and that's so sad, I wanted to cry the first time I heard that. Let's "Kardashian up" the dictionary... T.T Why? Language is made by its usage too - space-timeless grammar is intellectual masturbation. Is Intellectual Masturbation the only form of masturbation allowed in public?
Not if you're into trench coats.
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On May 05 2016 01:53 JimmiC wrote:Depends on your definition of masturbation. I've heard foodies use the term relating to eating something great. So good masturbation. I guess every kind not related to getting you off sexually is allowed 
How about VR? Would public masturbation still be prohibited if you could just replace the guy jerking off at your office with, say, a pillar or a trash can?
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On May 05 2016 00:29 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 21:18 SoSexy wrote:On May 04 2016 13:45 thePunGun wrote:Oh yeah.. and that's so sad, I wanted to cry the first time I heard that. Let's "Kardashian up" the dictionary... T.T Why? Language is made by its usage too - space-timeless grammar is intellectual masturbation. Is Intellectual Masturbation the only form of masturbation allowed in public?
I am not a 100% certain. German car laws are really weird. I know that you can drive naked, as long as you wear shoes that don't make it dangerous. I think the reason was something weird with the interior of your car being your personal space, like your flat. I don't know if that means that i can park at some busy spot and masturbate, and i am scared what google will think of me if i investigate.
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Download some niche browser, open it's incognito mode, use non-google search engine and then delete the browser. You can format your hard drive to be sure too
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On May 05 2016 03:27 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2016 00:29 Thieving Magpie wrote:On May 04 2016 21:18 SoSexy wrote:On May 04 2016 13:45 thePunGun wrote:Oh yeah.. and that's so sad, I wanted to cry the first time I heard that. Let's "Kardashian up" the dictionary... T.T Why? Language is made by its usage too - space-timeless grammar is intellectual masturbation. Is Intellectual Masturbation the only form of masturbation allowed in public? I am not a 100% certain. German car laws are really weird. I know that you can drive naked, as long as you wear shoes that don't make it dangerous. I think the reason was something weird with the interior of your car being your personal space, like your flat. I don't know if that means that i can park at some busy spot and masturbate, and i am scared what google will think of me if i investigate.
Driving barefoot is dangerous? Why? I drive barefoot all the time... (not for long distances, as it's uncomfortable for too long, but I really don't see why barefoot is dangerous)
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On May 05 2016 04:12 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2016 03:27 Simberto wrote:On May 05 2016 00:29 Thieving Magpie wrote:On May 04 2016 21:18 SoSexy wrote:On May 04 2016 13:45 thePunGun wrote:Oh yeah.. and that's so sad, I wanted to cry the first time I heard that. Let's "Kardashian up" the dictionary... T.T Why? Language is made by its usage too - space-timeless grammar is intellectual masturbation. Is Intellectual Masturbation the only form of masturbation allowed in public? I am not a 100% certain. German car laws are really weird. I know that you can drive naked, as long as you wear shoes that don't make it dangerous. I think the reason was something weird with the interior of your car being your personal space, like your flat. I don't know if that means that i can park at some busy spot and masturbate, and i am scared what google will think of me if i investigate. Driving barefoot is dangerous? Why? I drive barefoot all the time... (not for long distances, as it's uncomfortable for too long, but I really don't see why barefoot is dangerous)
I think that is an urban myth tbh. Googling why is it illegal to drive barefoot, googling confirms that all 50 states you can drive barefoot. Can't speak to Germany, but everything about it from Europe that showed up had a lot of back and forth and no substantiation.
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On May 05 2016 04:12 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2016 03:27 Simberto wrote:On May 05 2016 00:29 Thieving Magpie wrote:On May 04 2016 21:18 SoSexy wrote:On May 04 2016 13:45 thePunGun wrote:Oh yeah.. and that's so sad, I wanted to cry the first time I heard that. Let's "Kardashian up" the dictionary... T.T Why? Language is made by its usage too - space-timeless grammar is intellectual masturbation. Is Intellectual Masturbation the only form of masturbation allowed in public? I am not a 100% certain. German car laws are really weird. I know that you can drive naked, as long as you wear shoes that don't make it dangerous. I think the reason was something weird with the interior of your car being your personal space, like your flat. I don't know if that means that i can park at some busy spot and masturbate, and i am scared what google will think of me if i investigate. Driving barefoot is dangerous? Why? I drive barefoot all the time... (not for long distances, as it's uncomfortable for too long, but I really don't see why barefoot is dangerous)
it's forbidden in france too, aswell as driving in flip flop and high heel ^^ But I doubt it's ever enforced
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On May 05 2016 04:34 oGoZenob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2016 04:12 Acrofales wrote:On May 05 2016 03:27 Simberto wrote:On May 05 2016 00:29 Thieving Magpie wrote:On May 04 2016 21:18 SoSexy wrote:On May 04 2016 13:45 thePunGun wrote:Oh yeah.. and that's so sad, I wanted to cry the first time I heard that. Let's "Kardashian up" the dictionary... T.T Why? Language is made by its usage too - space-timeless grammar is intellectual masturbation. Is Intellectual Masturbation the only form of masturbation allowed in public? I am not a 100% certain. German car laws are really weird. I know that you can drive naked, as long as you wear shoes that don't make it dangerous. I think the reason was something weird with the interior of your car being your personal space, like your flat. I don't know if that means that i can park at some busy spot and masturbate, and i am scared what google will think of me if i investigate. Driving barefoot is dangerous? Why? I drive barefoot all the time... (not for long distances, as it's uncomfortable for too long, but I really don't see why barefoot is dangerous) it's forbidden in france too, aswell as driving in flip flop and high heel ^^ But I doubt it's ever enforced
Surely they couldn't pull you over for it, since cops can't see your feet while driving...
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On May 05 2016 05:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2016 04:34 oGoZenob wrote:On May 05 2016 04:12 Acrofales wrote:On May 05 2016 03:27 Simberto wrote:On May 05 2016 00:29 Thieving Magpie wrote:On May 04 2016 21:18 SoSexy wrote:On May 04 2016 13:45 thePunGun wrote:Oh yeah.. and that's so sad, I wanted to cry the first time I heard that. Let's "Kardashian up" the dictionary... T.T Why? Language is made by its usage too - space-timeless grammar is intellectual masturbation. Is Intellectual Masturbation the only form of masturbation allowed in public? I am not a 100% certain. German car laws are really weird. I know that you can drive naked, as long as you wear shoes that don't make it dangerous. I think the reason was something weird with the interior of your car being your personal space, like your flat. I don't know if that means that i can park at some busy spot and masturbate, and i am scared what google will think of me if i investigate. Driving barefoot is dangerous? Why? I drive barefoot all the time... (not for long distances, as it's uncomfortable for too long, but I really don't see why barefoot is dangerous) it's forbidden in france too, aswell as driving in flip flop and high heel ^^ But I doubt it's ever enforced Surely they couldn't pull you over for it, since cops can't see your feet while driving...
They can fine you when they see it if they pull you over for something else.
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On May 05 2016 05:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2016 04:34 oGoZenob wrote:On May 05 2016 04:12 Acrofales wrote:On May 05 2016 03:27 Simberto wrote:On May 05 2016 00:29 Thieving Magpie wrote:On May 04 2016 21:18 SoSexy wrote:On May 04 2016 13:45 thePunGun wrote:Oh yeah.. and that's so sad, I wanted to cry the first time I heard that. Let's "Kardashian up" the dictionary... T.T Why? Language is made by its usage too - space-timeless grammar is intellectual masturbation. Is Intellectual Masturbation the only form of masturbation allowed in public? I am not a 100% certain. German car laws are really weird. I know that you can drive naked, as long as you wear shoes that don't make it dangerous. I think the reason was something weird with the interior of your car being your personal space, like your flat. I don't know if that means that i can park at some busy spot and masturbate, and i am scared what google will think of me if i investigate. Driving barefoot is dangerous? Why? I drive barefoot all the time... (not for long distances, as it's uncomfortable for too long, but I really don't see why barefoot is dangerous) it's forbidden in france too, aswell as driving in flip flop and high heel ^^ But I doubt it's ever enforced Surely they couldn't pull you over for it, since cops can't see your feet while driving...
From what I vaguely know about the US, it may be surprising for you that cops in Europe are generally allowed to pull you over just because they feel like it in order to check that everything is OK with you and the car.
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Getting fined because you're driving in flip flops would be pretty fucked up. Following all the rules except a ridiculous one.
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On May 05 2016 04:34 oGoZenob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2016 04:12 Acrofales wrote:On May 05 2016 03:27 Simberto wrote:On May 05 2016 00:29 Thieving Magpie wrote:On May 04 2016 21:18 SoSexy wrote:On May 04 2016 13:45 thePunGun wrote:Oh yeah.. and that's so sad, I wanted to cry the first time I heard that. Let's "Kardashian up" the dictionary... T.T Why? Language is made by its usage too - space-timeless grammar is intellectual masturbation. Is Intellectual Masturbation the only form of masturbation allowed in public? I am not a 100% certain. German car laws are really weird. I know that you can drive naked, as long as you wear shoes that don't make it dangerous. I think the reason was something weird with the interior of your car being your personal space, like your flat. I don't know if that means that i can park at some busy spot and masturbate, and i am scared what google will think of me if i investigate. Driving barefoot is dangerous? Why? I drive barefoot all the time... (not for long distances, as it's uncomfortable for too long, but I really don't see why barefoot is dangerous) it's forbidden in france too, aswell as driving in flip flop and high heel ^^ But I doubt it's ever enforced
Flip flops make sense (can get stuck in the pedals). In fact, that's when I mostly drive barefoot, when I am wearing flipflops. High heels sound dangerous too: firstly your foot is at a weird angle, and secondly, the pivot point is your high heel, which doesn't seem ideal for reacting quickly. Being a man, I have no idea whether that is actually true, it just makes sense from a mechanical point of view.
But barefoot? What is the reasoning behind it?
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