On July 05 2015 21:34 farvacola wrote: The Singularity is science fiction masturbation. Just wash your hands after, whatever it is you do.
I'm going to take a little nibble, in the style of Mr. Bean or Black Adder and ask you to fleshlight this one out a little.
On the side for the Technological Singularity;
Look at how we have progressed since 1900. The leaps forward in science and technology, from Einstein's work on the atom to visiting every planet in this solar system. All this in such a short time. What would someone from the 1700's make of an Apache attack helicopter? And then saw the sheer destruction these war machines can bring?
An incredible speed of technological advancement is happening, and we're increasingly reaching out into space, and developing the technologies for long distance space travel, to highlight one point;
A team of physicists from the UK, Portugal and Sweden led by Ruth Bamford of the Rutherford lab has shown that it should be possible to shield spacecraft using artificial magnetosphere's. MOO
READ THIS Google can spend BILLIONS of $'s on a WHIM and they are heavily investing in technology, as is a whole slew of American government agencies like the NSA, to their European counterparts. This is desired.
As we learn more about how our own brains work, this knowledge will in time be applied to quantum computing and Artifical Intelligence. I say a fully concious AI who has a sense of self, understanding that it lives in a different world to us.. Will happen at some point in the future, and when it does the sheer speed of thinking he she or it could achieve with a quantum computer, will be a turning point for humanity, good or bad.
Science fiction becomes science fact, it's just a matter of time.
Fruity, I do not agree with your point. There are newspapers from the 1850 or so that wrote pages like 'the world in 2000' and they were imagining flying cars, teleports and shit.
If i say 'it must get lonely by the Chesapeake - what do you immediately think of? The bay? Like someone living near the bay on in a particular city? Is it more geographical or political?
Is it true that cops shout 'freeze' to robbers etc? If it's not true my whole life has been a lie...
Probably the bay.
And no, it's usually "Police!" and "Stop!", at least to begin with.
On July 08 2015 05:04 SoSexy wrote: Fruity, I do not agree with your point. There are newspapers from the 1850 or so that wrote pages like 'the world in 2000' and they were imagining flying cars, teleports and shit.
But we don't need flying cars anymore because the internet can connect us at near light speed. That's even better.
On July 08 2015 05:04 SoSexy wrote: Fruity, I do not agree with your point. There are newspapers from the 1850 or so that wrote pages like 'the world in 2000' and they were imagining flying cars, teleports and shit.
Yeah, most of the time when people try to imagine what the world will look like a few years from now they fail, because they try to imagine the way new technologies will be applied with their current concerns and issues to be resolved, and not the concerns and issues that will be present when these technologies will be up and running.
On July 08 2015 05:04 SoSexy wrote: Fruity, I do not agree with your point. There are newspapers from the 1850 or so that wrote pages like 'the world in 2000' and they were imagining flying cars, teleports and shit.
The time scale was off, that's all.
How do you envisage where will be technologically speaking 10,000 years from now?
Mars taken over? Holidays on the moon? Dyson Spheres? Trips to Proxima Centauri? The core point I am making here is how fast science learns. The foundations for it are being laid now. Make a cuppa or two, a little brew time.
If i say 'it must get lonely by the Chesapeake - what do you immediately think of? The bay? Like someone living near the bay on in a particular city? Is it more geographical or political?
Is it true that cops shout 'freeze' to robbers etc? If it's not true my whole life has been a lie...
I am not an american, but i would think that you are trying to seduce a chesapeakean.
Regarding SciFi vs Science Facts. Take a look at the original Star Trek. Star Trek was pretty far out there in regards to the technology they made up. It was set more than 200 years in the future. Now it is ~40 years later, and we have Star Trek Tech beat in many areas. Communication. Displays. Data availability. Computers. Pretty much the only thing we don't have are Warp drives and transporters.
As another fun idea, take a look at the stories of Lovecraft. In one of them (The Shadow out of time), there is an insanely advanced race of timetravelling alien beings (obviously horrible ones because lovecraft). In many regards, this is very much a Science Fiction story. They have a lot of unspeakable technological devices. And they have this plan to store a lot of data about everything for reasons that are not really relevant here. The important point is how they store that data. They have a library. Of high-tech books that do not decay at all, but they still just have a vast library of stuff written on paper. This is because that was the most amazing storage device that Lovecraft could imagine. And now look at how we archive data less than a 100 years later. We are very good at outperforming Science Fiction, and the real technological advances seem to often be unthinkable even a few decades before they happen.
Obviously not everything someone imagines will come true. It appears to be very hard to predict technological progress. But we manage to outpace SciFi in many regards. You just don't realize that many of the things you use nowadays would have been amazing SciFi 20 years ago. Smartphones & Tablets + most of the stuff on the Internet (Wikipedia, Facebook etc...) obviously being the major developments here, but there are many other things that are simply amazing. We are already living in the future, and there is only more to come.
Even more food for thought: I dare you to find any piece of SciFi that is more than 40 years old which we haven't outperformed in at least one way. And those are the 70s. Computers (Which are pretty much the quintessential breakthrough of the 20th century) already existed. You would just have had to extrapolate from the known. If you go back before that breakthrough, this effect becomes even more extreme. Based on this, i don't think it is unreasonable to assume that in another 40 years, will we once again surpass all of our current SciFi in at least some way. I have no idea what way that will be, but it will be amazing to be part of it.
This might sound a bit optimistic, but as a 28 year old today, i think that there is a very real possibility that i will never die of old age.
If i say 'it must get lonely by the Chesapeake - what do you immediately think of? The bay? Like someone living near the bay on in a particular city? Is it more geographical or political?
Is it true that cops shout 'freeze' to robbers etc? If it's not true my whole life has been a lie...
Chesapeake on its own would refer to the bay, it could be political/historical if only for the fact that Chesapeake Bay is near DC.
I don't know about Freeze from experience, but my guess is that is more for movies.
On July 08 2015 05:20 Simberto wrote: This might sound a bit optimistic, but as a 28 year old today, i think that there is a very real possibility that i will never die of old age.
There is a large gap between the technology of you not dying being there and you having access to it. Unless you are rich by European standards. Extending life is one of those things that is hard to motivate since there is a real fear of resources running out, though you will be voting to extend your life along with everybody else of our generation. I liked Larry Niven's Sci Fi regarding this where he imagined a society that used (all) criminals as organ banks until the technology made it possible to manufacture.
Reliably 3D printing organs is probably 30 years away (small scale). The brain is the main problem as things are since if you replace that you are still you in DNA but you are not the same person. You become a fresh clone of yourself at that point. I honestly think you will die due to brain or central nervous system issues. The rest should be possible to fix in time. So if those hold up well for you 200 or so might be possible at which point those might have been solved as well (assuming no major societal collapses).
As for other fun Sci Fi on the horizon. Three different teams have made an electrical propellant method that doesn't expel anything using quantum mechanics instead of Newtonian physics. Enabling acceleration and de-acceleration at much cheaper cost than any current method in use (assuming vacuum and "outside" large gravity wells). If that works out on large scale and in space we have a good enough propulsion method for use outside of the atmosphere, just leaving that part to solve until we have a space based society. (I personally hope for the space ladder but something else is more likely to solve it first.)
Even more food for thought: I dare you to find any piece of SciFi that is more than 40 years old which we haven't outperformed in at least one way. And those are the 70s. Computers (Which are pretty much the quintessential breakthrough of the 20th century) already existed. You would just have had to extrapolate from the known. If you go back before that breakthrough, this effect becomes even more extreme. Based on this, i don't think it is unreasonable to assume that in another 40 years, will we once again surpass all of our current SciFi in at least some way. I have no idea what way that will be, but it will be amazing to be part of it.
This might sound a bit optimistic, but as a 28 year old today, i think that there is a very real possibility that i will never die of old age.
Even more food for thought: I dare you to find any piece of SciFi that is more than 40 years old which we haven't outperformed in at least one way. And those are the 70s. Computers (Which are pretty much the quintessential breakthrough of the 20th century) already existed. You would just have had to extrapolate from the known. If you go back before that breakthrough, this effect becomes even more extreme. Based on this, i don't think it is unreasonable to assume that in another 40 years, will we once again surpass all of our current SciFi in at least some way. I have no idea what way that will be, but it will be amazing to be part of it.
This might sound a bit optimistic, but as a 28 year old today, i think that there is a very real possibility that i will never die of old age.
DARPA is an American government agency, it's mantra is to develop future technologies before others.
DARPA’s original mission, established in 1958, was to prevent technological surprise like the launch of Sputnik, which signaled that the Soviets had beaten the U.S. into space. The mission statement has evolved over time. Today, DARPA’s mission is still to prevent technological surprise to the US, but also to create technological surprise for our enemies.
The Chinese (who are at the forefront for the development of computer AI) Japan, Russia. It's all being researched now.
Imagine the classified stuff DARPA do, but you never get hear about.
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