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Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
October 03 2014 13:52 GMT
#2961
On October 03 2014 09:36 Blisse wrote:
How do you handle the inevitable students in class who always do shit like challenge the teacher's claims or ask excessive irrelevant questions or answer other student's questions in place of the professor, loudly?


It depends on what you consider irrelevant questions. But most teachers I've known love it when even just one student gets excited and engaged in the classroom and usually uses that student as a jumping off point before telling him to let others talk halfway through the class.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
October 03 2014 14:05 GMT
#2962
On October 02 2014 15:14 GreenHorizons wrote:
What's your position on religious facebook posts?

I see religious stuff on my feed... a lot... I'm not religious but I don't write someone off because they are. However I feel pretty self conscious about spreading agnostic/atheist messages even when they are (imo) less controversial.

I'll provide a comparison.

Christian:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Agnostic/Athiest:

http://globalnews.ca/video/1592292/science-talk-with-bill-nye-the-science-guy

Should I feel free to spread that type of stuff without being considered rude (or at least any more rude than those spreading religious messages)?


you answer with posts like these
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
October 03 2014 18:01 GMT
#2963
On October 03 2014 09:36 Blisse wrote:
How do you handle the inevitable students in class who always do shit like challenge the teacher's claims or ask excessive irrelevant questions or answer other student's questions in place of the professor, loudly?


Three different questions with different answers.

3. Answering other students' questions:
either (a) insist on a no talking without getting picked after hand-raising policy or (b) speak to the student in question about the correct way to behave in a classroom. However, at higher levels, (college and post-grad) if the student has a particular field of specialty, it can be helpful to simply demarcate what kinds of things they may address versus you. If the specific problem is the loudness or rudeness, it is helpful to address that directly. Arrogant assholes get beat up and don't get laid. Getting chewed out helpfully by a teacher is not a problem for them, and could be constructive.

2. Excessive or irrelevant questions:
If it's a good question, say "That's a good question but". Whether or not it was, go on to say: "it's not really what we're focusing on right now" or "we don't really have time to go into it right now." Then offer an alternative: "Come talk to me after class or during office hours if you want to discuss it." Remember, there is no such thing as too much after class questions unless they are talking into other scheduled blocks. The job of a teacher is always to be there for answers, especially for precocious students (which can be hard if they are obnoxious or arrogant, but it's still the goal).

1. Challenging a teacher's claims:
This is what academic discourse is. This is correct. That is a good thing, and a sign that you are doing your job properly if many students are doing it. Engage and debate if desired, but also recognize that there are often many right answers that reasonable people can hold. Getting students to debate one another is a way to handle this: "Kyle raises an interesting question. Does anyone want to answer it?" Of course, if the debate takes too much time, you can cut it off by saying: "We're out of time for this debate right now, but it brings up good issues to discuss, and you should definitely continue this discussion later."
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15328 Posts
October 03 2014 22:58 GMT
#2964
On October 03 2014 06:49 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Where do Flies go when it starts to rain, up in the trees or under leaves etc?

Follow up: Where do fruit flies come from, or more importantly, where do they go after I put away the fruits. Seriously like an hour after I put some fruit out they show up out of no where, but if I take it away and check later they just disappear. And I can never find any bodies.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
October 03 2014 23:03 GMT
#2965
good question. the moment you put any fruit in the garbage the effect multiplies by 100.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 04 2014 01:50 GMT
#2966
Confirmed missing bodies in zatic's apartment.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19349 Posts
October 04 2014 02:01 GMT
#2967
Im sorry if this comes out as insensitive, i'll edit it out immediately.

i'm just curious regarding mentally-handicapped people. how come it affects their physical appearance? If the disability is mental, how come it manifests physically?
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
October 04 2014 02:08 GMT
#2968
On October 04 2014 11:01 icystorage wrote:
Im sorry if this comes out as insensitive, i'll edit it out immediately.

i'm just curious regarding mentally-handicapped people. how come it affects their physical appearance? If the disability is mental, how come it manifests physically?


Because not all mental handicaps manifests physically?
Because ailments to the brain that manages physical processes can have physical repercussions?

It's not really insensitive, mostly it's very misinformed.

Mental handicap does not always correlate with physical handicaps
Brain damage affects all of the brain, not just the non-physicals.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23245 Posts
October 04 2014 04:41 GMT
#2969
On October 03 2014 23:05 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 15:14 GreenHorizons wrote:
What's your position on religious facebook posts?

I see religious stuff on my feed... a lot... I'm not religious but I don't write someone off because they are. However I feel pretty self conscious about spreading agnostic/atheist messages even when they are (imo) less controversial.

I'll provide a comparison.

Christian:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Agnostic/Athiest:

http://globalnews.ca/video/1592292/science-talk-with-bill-nye-the-science-guy

Should I feel free to spread that type of stuff without being considered rude (or at least any more rude than those spreading religious messages)?


you answer with posts like these
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



Ok now you reaaallly made me want to do that. But I'm pretty sure that falls into trolly although if TL tells me it's not I'll just blame you guys and post it anyway because it really makes me laugh.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
October 04 2014 07:04 GMT
#2970
if parents give birth to a child and they know with 100% certainty that that child is going to have a fucking terrible future as poor exploited labour, are the parents bad people for giving birth to a child. Are the parents responsible for the child's future? can we blame the parents?

real life example: parents of the people working in those bangladesh factory fires.

Also, is it my fault if I buy things that these factor workers make, thereby supporting the industry that causes these conditions to occur?

Also, Jessica from SNSD or Tiffany from SNSD.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42768 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-04 08:45:24
October 04 2014 08:23 GMT
#2971
On October 04 2014 16:04 jodogohoo wrote:
if parents give birth to a child and they know with 100% certainty that that child is going to have a fucking terrible future as poor exploited labour, are the parents bad people for giving birth to a child. Are the parents responsible for the child's future? can we blame the parents?

Yes, but 100% certainty is pretty high. I would be surprised if poor exploited labourers couldn't find some satisfaction and happiness in their own ways. I read something a while ago that said that happiness was basically derived from a subjective comparison between the shitty times and the good times that you experience, thus allowing us in the first world to be miserable sometimes while allowing people in conditions that would make us miserable all the time to be happy. Also the chance that they have access to birth control or a pension beyond kids is pretty low so blame would be excessive.

That said I would probably advocate abortion over growing up as a child sorting through a pile of toxic scrap with bare feet.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5281 Posts
October 04 2014 08:39 GMT
#2972
you never blame the parents.
you blame the ones running the sweatshops.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
October 04 2014 08:41 GMT
#2973
i wear nike shoes im sry
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
October 04 2014 08:45 GMT
#2974
On October 04 2014 17:39 xM(Z wrote:
you never blame the parents.
you blame the ones running the sweatshops.


Factory owners have to eat, blame the first world countries buying cheap goods.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5281 Posts
October 04 2014 08:51 GMT
#2975
On October 04 2014 17:45 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 17:39 xM(Z wrote:
you never blame the parents.
you blame the ones running the sweatshops.


Factory owners have to eat, blame the first world countries buying cheap goods.

a meal is 10 bucks
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
October 04 2014 10:00 GMT
#2976
ill make it a combo for 12
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
October 04 2014 18:39 GMT
#2977
On October 04 2014 16:04 jodogohoo wrote:
Also, is it my fault if I buy things that these factor workers make, thereby supporting the industry that causes these conditions to occur?


This is a really troubling and difficult ethical problem. You will find decent, intelligent people on all sides of it.

On the one hand, conditions out there can be really horrible. The exploitation is very horrible, and very real. Our basic moral outrage should suggest a boycott.

But there are two main problems with a boycott, one practical and one moral. The practical one is how difficult it is to make such a boycott happen, which is borderline impossible. The Amish do a decent job, better than the rest of us. There are some remote and isolated traditional peoples who manage alright as well. But unless you're a subsistence farmer or hunter/gatherer, you're going to have a hard time not relying on any products made with exploitative labor. Our modern industrial system is heavily reliant on it for cheap consumer goods. The Jain saints who starved themselves to death to do no harm are laughing at us now.

But I'm a Christian, and think that how hard a moral thing is shouldn't be a part of the calculation, because God demands perfection, even though we all fall short. So let's talk about the moral problem: our system is based on this. Picking through garbage piles and people working in sweatshops are the alternatives. A lot of these places have way too many people and not enough jobs, or ways for people to create them. If you waved a wand and put every sweatshop out of business tomorrow, people across SE Asia would starve.

Now hopefully, the arc of industrialization in the West will be mirrored in those countries, with automation and workers' rights movements allowing for a decrease in horrible conditions, an increase in pay, and, gradually, a movement to an information/service based economy with industrial sector jobs increasingly performed by machines. There are economists on either side of whether this will happen.

For my part, I participate in the broken systems, but I also try to keep up with research on the industrial practices of companies I buy regularly/expensively from. Obviously as an individual consumer, it matters not a whit. But in principle, if enough people did that, it would encourage companies to (a) make it easier to find information on their practice and (b) compensate their employees fairly.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
October 04 2014 21:40 GMT
#2978
On October 04 2014 17:51 xM(Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 17:45 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On October 04 2014 17:39 xM(Z wrote:
you never blame the parents.
you blame the ones running the sweatshops.


Factory owners have to eat, blame the first world countries buying cheap goods.

a meal is 10 bucks


Can't be angry that a person is forced into the work he's skilled in. Be angry at the impetus that forces him to do what he does.

Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11519 Posts
October 05 2014 02:18 GMT
#2979
On October 04 2014 11:08 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 11:01 icystorage wrote:
Im sorry if this comes out as insensitive, i'll edit it out immediately.

i'm just curious regarding mentally-handicapped people. how come it affects their physical appearance? If the disability is mental, how come it manifests physically?


Because not all mental handicaps manifests physically?
Because ailments to the brain that manages physical processes can have physical repercussions?

It's not really insensitive, mostly it's very misinformed.

Mental handicap does not always correlate with physical handicaps
Brain damage affects all of the brain, not just the non-physicals.


Yeah, basically classic "metally handicapped" looking stuff is either a) can't coordinate both eyes very well (which is a brain thing) or b) has problem keeping his muscles in check at all times, which leads to making "silly" faces, or c) can't take care of himself very well, so hair etc...don't look to well-kept. All of which are originating from the brain, but having effects on what you view.

Of course, these are only the cases where someone "looks mentally handicapped"
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18004 Posts
October 05 2014 04:03 GMT
#2980
On October 05 2014 11:18 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 11:08 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On October 04 2014 11:01 icystorage wrote:
Im sorry if this comes out as insensitive, i'll edit it out immediately.

i'm just curious regarding mentally-handicapped people. how come it affects their physical appearance? If the disability is mental, how come it manifests physically?


Because not all mental handicaps manifests physically?
Because ailments to the brain that manages physical processes can have physical repercussions?

It's not really insensitive, mostly it's very misinformed.

Mental handicap does not always correlate with physical handicaps
Brain damage affects all of the brain, not just the non-physicals.


Yeah, basically classic "metally handicapped" looking stuff is either a) can't coordinate both eyes very well (which is a brain thing) or b) has problem keeping his muscles in check at all times, which leads to making "silly" faces, or c) can't take care of himself very well, so hair etc...don't look to well-kept. All of which are originating from the brain, but having effects on what you view.

Of course, these are only the cases where someone "looks mentally handicapped"

Well, there's also Down's syndrome, hydrocephalus and a few other diseases and conditions that cause both mental problems and changes to one's physical appearance. In these cases it's not the mental problems causing the physical symptoms, but rather the underlying root cause causing both.
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