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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
October 02 2014 02:07 GMT
#2941
The site I read.
The fed law is the Official Languages Act. It only applies to the federal government I guess because I have never seen a Alberta government ad in french lol
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24041 Posts
October 02 2014 06:14 GMT
#2942
What's your position on religious facebook posts?

I see religious stuff on my feed... a lot... I'm not religious but I don't write someone off because they are. However I feel pretty self conscious about spreading agnostic/atheist messages even when they are (imo) less controversial.

I'll provide a comparison.

Christian:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Agnostic/Athiest:

http://globalnews.ca/video/1592292/science-talk-with-bill-nye-the-science-guy

Should I feel free to spread that type of stuff without being considered rude (or at least any more rude than those spreading religious messages)?
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
October 02 2014 06:23 GMT
#2943
Yes, it's your social media account. If they don't like what you are posting then ask them to hide your post or delete them from your list.
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
October 02 2014 06:54 GMT
#2944
Personally, I find the anti religion science nuts to be just as annoying and zealous in there spam as the actual religious nuts.

I ignore both and block both from my facebook feed. I don't need that shit taking up valuable cat picture space on my feed
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11894 Posts
October 02 2014 11:49 GMT
#2945
On October 02 2014 10:13 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 09:12 Simberto wrote:
If it is something the government does, then it should not be only in some language few people understand. If it is something a private company does, then i don't really see the point. They should be able to advertise in whatever way they want to.

For example, here in germany a lot of advertisements are at least partially in english, because english has this "cool" feeling to it due to a lot of culture being imported from the US. Do you think companies should be forced to advertise only in german? I think that sounds exceedingly silly. Furthermore, you would get silly amounts of regulation detailing exactly how much of the text needs to be in german, size of the german text, etc... All of it entirely pointless and serving no purpose whatsoever. And if you allow them to advertise in english, i don't see any reasonable argument to disallow them to advertise in whatever language they want to.

The main reason they don't do that is that the point of advertisements is to reach a lot of people, and if most people who see a sign don't understand what it says then that defeats the purpose of the whole thing. Unless you assume that the only people who would want your stuff all also speak french. Maybe if you sell croissants and wine that might make sense?


I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I am saying that anything in a foreign language should be required to be also translated to English as well. Just like how all of our food packing has to be in English AND French, even though 99% here don't have french is their mother tongue. It's because they are the official languages. You are free to have it in additional languages, but those 2 are required. Every restaurant here MUST have their menu in English, as well as whatever other languages they choose. There is already a lot of regulation when it comes to that, which might differ from some other countries.

Again, their target audience would understand, because it's in the same language, it's just I believe all the residents of that country have the right to know what is being said by companies on advertisements, etc. I would not like if advertisements for example said: "Death the the white man" or something, spreading hate or other information, especially if I was unaware of it, that the normal person being exposed to them could not extract.

So I think there's an unfairness there, and when it comes to business or registered club, it should be required that all their media is expressed in at least one official language, on top of whatever languages they wish to write it in.


I did not misunderstand that. Of course in Canada you have the whole double language thing going on that we don' have here in Germany, but i think my example fits quite well. English is not an official language in Germany, and there are some germans (like my grandmother) who don't speak or understand english.

Which means that if you are against advertisements in foreign languages (as opposed to only against ads in languages that you personally don't understand), stuff like Kit Kats "Have a break, have a Kit Kat" campaign in germany should also be illegal. Because it is never translated anywhere. So while i don't know about canadian laws, i know that you are obviously allowed to advertise in foreign languages in Germany, because a lot of companies already do advertise completely or almost completely in english. And if english is allowed, then i don't see why any other language would not be allowed.
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-02 14:56:32
October 02 2014 14:49 GMT
#2946
On October 02 2014 15:14 GreenHorizons wrote:
What's your position on religious facebook posts?

I see religious stuff on my feed... a lot... I'm not religious but I don't write someone off because they are. However I feel pretty self conscious about spreading agnostic/atheist messages even when they are (imo) less controversial.

I'll provide a comparison.

Christian:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Agnostic/Athiest:

http://globalnews.ca/video/1592292/science-talk-with-bill-nye-the-science-guy

Should I feel free to spread that type of stuff without being considered rude (or at least any more rude than those spreading religious messages)?


Sure. Debate is good for people. I'm religious and I think atheists should be given as many rights to prosletize as any other religion. [mischievous grin]

Incidentally, I skimmed the video but didn't watch it in full; what was atheistic/agnostic about it? The bit I saw was mostly him about his career as well a bit on evolution, which is accepted by pretty much everybody, and has been Catholic church belief for a very long time, as well as being accepted by most mainline Protestants.

Edit: I guess I should amend by saying that you should be careful about feelings when expressing religious beliefs by denying those of others. I'm not the kind to generally post "He is risen" or whatnot, but that would be more reasonable than if I posted a video/blurb about how Jews are wrong in their messianic expectations. If I'm saying "Jews are wrong about this" that's more of a problem than posting "Christians are right about this." For atheism, the same is probably true, not as a point of ethics or right, but as a point of etiquitte. You'll have a more sympathetic audience if you post positive beliefs (about evolution, human endurance, the poignancy of life, etc.) than just trashing other peoples ideas.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
October 02 2014 15:05 GMT
#2947
On October 02 2014 15:54 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Personally, I find the anti religion science nuts to be just as annoying and zealous in there spam as the actual religious nuts.

I ignore both and block both from my facebook feed. I don't need that shit taking up valuable cat picture space on my feed


The truth has been spoken. (I also block the content from both).
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
October 02 2014 16:11 GMT
#2948
I think it has actually gotten to the point where I prefer the religious people because most "atheist posts" are either 1. Hey the WBC is really evil how can you even be religious" or "Have you read the God delusion(insert any other generic religious critique) it's so great".

I can't even remember the last time a religious person has tried to convince me of their religion when on the other hand most self proclaimed atheists/agnostics can't wait to get into a religious discussion with anybody around them.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24041 Posts
October 02 2014 17:21 GMT
#2949
On October 03 2014 01:11 Nyxisto wrote:
I think it has actually gotten to the point where I prefer the religious people because most "atheist posts" are either 1. Hey the WBC is really evil how can you even be religious" or "Have you read the God delusion(insert any other generic religious critique) it's so great".

I can't even remember the last time a religious person has tried to convince me of their religion when on the other hand most self proclaimed atheists/agnostics can't wait to get into a religious discussion with anybody around them.



At least once a week someone comes to my door to proselytize (some 'Christian' like at least 4 different churches) so I guess that's a bit of a location thing.

Facebook it's usually a 'do you have the courage to ____' that bug me the most. Like my courage has 0 to do with whether I will repost some religious propaganda.

As for the types of posts, as widely accepted as evolution and a old earth may be for you and yours it's a bit less accepted around my neck of the woods. So the implicit 'I'm right, you're wrong' in something like a post about evolution is actually upsetting to plenty of people. Same goes for creationism in schools.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
October 02 2014 17:27 GMT
#2950
I don't see it much of my facebook feed, mostly because the people I hang around with, whether religious or not, usually aren't too hardcore into it, and don't have the need to spread it.

Although around my university, I have so many posters about many different religions, people trying to talk to you about it, give free water bottles + card about religion. It frustrates me... I dunno, I don't think religion should be that out in the open in public, and maybe as a scientist at heart, being surrounded by everything that goes against my beliefs is a bit irritating. I have no need to try and convert others to hard agnostic or atheist, but I'd appreciate the other side did the same, as then it's kind of an unfair battle.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24041 Posts
October 02 2014 17:57 GMT
#2951
Yeah I just don't want to be ashamed or be considered an agitator because I like/share some science post that unintentionally shits on some religious 'truth'. Right now I'm coming down on feeling free, if it bothers someone that much they can just block it or unfriend me... Why do religious people have to have so much money, influence, and power in my area!? Grrr..

I'll avoid the Bill Maher type rants as funny as they are sometimes, I understand not everyone has that kind of sense of humor.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44111 Posts
October 02 2014 19:08 GMT
#2952
I don't think I know anyone with serious religious convictions. I guess I can understand the need for a strong atheist stance in the US (where I now live unfortunately) but my upbringing and social group are probably most accurately classed as post religious, we grew up with belief being so little of an issue in our lives that the question no more bothers us than the heliocentric debate. I didn't see any great need to define myself by where I stood on either issue.
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Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
October 02 2014 21:06 GMT
#2953
On October 03 2014 02:27 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Although around my university, I have so many posters about many different religions, people trying to talk to you about it, give free water bottles + card about religion. It frustrates me... I dunno, I don't think religion should be that out in the open in public, and maybe as a scientist at heart, being surrounded by everything that goes against my beliefs is a bit irritating. I have no need to try and convert others to hard agnostic or atheist, but I'd appreciate the other side did the same, as then it's kind of an unfair battle.


How is that frustrating? Isn't the basis of a free society discourse among ideas? Do you really want to stifle ideas counter to your own? Of course, if what you mean is just that you get frustrated by being exposed to contrary ideologies, as a purely emotional response, I can let that lie. It sure is nice to be surrounded by people who agree with oneself. It just isn't terribly healthy.

OT: Free discourse is good. Share your ideas. Avoid enaging in ad hominem, but posting things about evolution is perfectly alright. Most Christians worldwide believe in evolution. Clearly you live in a pretty crazy area (once a week? wow.) but that just gives more importance to promoting your point of views and engaging with others. Just don't be a Bill Maher/Pat Robertson about it (insistently arguing against strawmen and slandering anyone who doesn't fit in your definition of your opponents.).
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 02 2014 21:49 GMT
#2954
Where do Flies go when it starts to rain, up in the trees or under leaves etc?
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 02 2014 22:22 GMT
#2955
In my god damn house. Those motherfuckers.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18863 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 00:40:05
October 02 2014 23:40 GMT
#2956
Getting into religious conversations doesn't have to be a bad thing, and by dwelling on a preconceived notion as to how such a discussion will play out, I think it's easy to miss out on a lot of very interesting and valuable interactions. This is not to say that I think everyone needs to be open to talking about or coming upon overt religiosity; I'm acutely aware of how much my tolerance for public displays and discussions of religion is tied to my having grown up in the Midwestern United States. I am close friends with many devout Christians who are very intelligent, well-rounded, and articulate in couching their faith in contemporary terms, and I get the distinct impression that a fair number of people on this site just haven't had enough of a similar experience to relate.
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Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
October 03 2014 00:36 GMT
#2957
How do you handle the inevitable students in class who always do shit like challenge the teacher's claims or ask excessive irrelevant questions or answer other student's questions in place of the professor, loudly?
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
October 03 2014 07:20 GMT
#2958
On October 03 2014 09:36 Blisse wrote:
How do you handle the inevitable students in class who always do shit like challenge the teacher's claims or ask excessive irrelevant questions or answer other student's questions in place of the professor, loudly?


I currently teach tutorials for engineering university students. I have strategies for that, but what age groups are you dealing with?
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Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
October 03 2014 07:36 GMT
#2959
On October 03 2014 09:36 Blisse wrote:
How do you handle the inevitable students in class who always do shit like challenge the teacher's claims or ask excessive irrelevant questions or answer other student's questions in place of the professor, loudly?

Post high school, I have had a professor who just says "shut up" and it works pretty well, but that guy was a jackass in every aspect of his life.
HavocDaFuzzy
Profile Joined October 2014
Malaysia15 Posts
October 03 2014 12:34 GMT
#2960
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