EPTWhat would happen if US pulls out of SK and Japan?
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kaisen
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Voltaire
United States1485 Posts
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
On June 26 2011 01:32 kaisen wrote: Politically speaking, what would happen if US pulls troops out of South Korea and Japan? This is an interesting question because right now there is a huge power struggle in East Asia between china and US. At the moment, both South Korea and Japan are paying billions of dollars for US bases every year and both countries want US troops to stay. But what would happen if US completely pulls out of East Asia? China wants US gone from the region, along with their sphere of influence. US is using both South korea and Japan as buffer zone for china. Will china become sole dominant power in Asia and both South Korea and Japan fall under china's influence? Will US ever pull troops out of both SK and Japan? the US would pull out if Ron Paul ever comes to power. Nothing would really happen with China/US in the forseeable future tbh. Only thing why they shouldnt pull out of SK/Japan is ebcause of North Korea. Also, the US should just decommission their bases in Europe already... Its unlikely Russia would invade Europe already. | ||
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Skee
Canada702 Posts
Like the above poster said, the most important reason for troops in South Korea is for the imminent fall of North Korea in the next 50 years. And even then, military-wise South Korea is pretty well off compared to North Korea. | ||
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
IF the United States were to remove its military from East Asia(not just Japan and South Korea), then neither country would be able to defend itself effectively against China and North Korea without the aid of the US or a more powerful country. The entire area would become reliant on China for economic growth. But really, the US would never leave those countries. They are to valuable to its national interest. | ||
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Crisco
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On June 26 2011 01:37 Skee wrote: What do you mean fall under China's influence? Neither South Korea, Japan or China rely on eachother or any other asian country economically speaking and no, China is not going to go to war with them.... So I am having a problem understanding what you mean. Like the above poster said, the most important reason for troops in South Korea is for the imminent fall of North Korea in the next 50 years. And even then, military-wise South Korea is pretty well off compared to North Korea. Actually NK's army is vastly larger than SK's | ||
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lilky
United States131 Posts
Im south korean, and from our perspective, this is what we know to be the truth. | ||
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whiteguycash
United States476 Posts
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kaisen
United States601 Posts
On June 26 2011 01:41 lilky wrote: If the U.S. ever pulls out of South Korea and Japan, the North Koreans will first invade Japan, then most likely South Korea. Im south korean, and from our perspective, this is what we know to be the truth. China makes so much money by trading with both Japan and South Korea. They are not gonna just sit down and let and watch North Korea do whatever it wants to do. | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
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Sovetsky Soyuz
Russian Federation905 Posts
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Skee
Canada702 Posts
But they are a first world country with great industrial capacity, as well as the fact the vastly larger population for drafting and even if North Korea did begin drafting, their population is malnourished and wouldn't support their government in the first place. Regardless, I don't really know much, so I am going to stop preaching theoretical statements and not come back to this thread before I embarrass myself, lol. | ||
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Voltaire
United States1485 Posts
On June 26 2011 01:45 DeepElemBlues wrote: If the US ever left SK and Japan, both SK and Japan would start enlarging their navies and there would be a naval arms race between them and China. That would be the biggest political change from the US leaving, Japan returning to its status as a premier naval power in the Pacific. This isn't 1930, there is no way an "arms race" would emerge in the present day. Also there are severe restrictions on the Japanese military because of WWII. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On June 26 2011 01:39 PraetorialGamer wrote: In answer to your last question: no, never. The United States is not exactly using Japan and South Korea as a "buffer", in your terms, but as economic allies. The military presence of the United States in South Korea is mainly a justification to act against North Korea, as the first area to be hit would be the DMZ, and consequentially, the troops stationed there. IF the United States were to remove its military from East Asia(not just Japan and South Korea), then neither country would be able to defend itself effectively against China and North Korea without the aid of the US or a more powerful country. The entire area would become reliant on China for economic growth. But really, the US would never leave those countries. They are to valuable to its national interest. I don't see why the US military pulling out of the region would imply the end of US trade with the region. I also think that the US will eventually leave. Maintaining military bases overseas is expensive and the US economy isn't doing that well. I expect SK and Japan to remain US allies for some time to come. But eventually shifting geopolitics may change that, as well. | ||
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Feridan
Denmark33 Posts
They'll have to keep bases up in those areas for a very long time yet. | ||
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Klipsys
United States1533 Posts
On June 26 2011 01:45 DeepElemBlues wrote: If the US ever left SK and Japan, both SK and Japan would start enlarging their navies and there would be a naval arms race between them and China. That would be the biggest political change from the US leaving, Japan returning to its status as a premier naval power in the Pacific. What the.... You know that japan hasn't had a standing army since WW2, and it's a violation of UN resolutions if they re-militarize | ||
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exog
Norway279 Posts
As NK has a mad dictator-family, its very possible they would "retake whats theirs with the blesing of (insert god here)", or any other stupid reason like the americans do all the time. If this happen its very possible that china would support them for political/economicals reasons without dirtying their hands. | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1598 Posts
On June 26 2011 01:53 Voltaire wrote: This isn't 1930, there is no way an "arms race" would emerge in the present day. Also there are severe restrictions on the Japanese military because of WWII. What stops NK or China from taking over? It is actually a good thing that we are still in SK they can concentrate their money on things that aren't military related improving the living conditions of the country. Japan on the other hand could probably defend themselves now. | ||
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
On June 26 2011 01:56 Klipsys wrote: What the.... You know that japan hasn't had a standing army since WW2, and it's a violation of UN resolutions if they re-militarize wut they HAVE an army, just that its made so that its for defensive purposes only. | ||
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