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On February 08 2014 15:48 Ben... wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2014 13:08 Ben... wrote:+ Show Spoiler +"Don't worry about assignments or tests overlapping. The computer science professors coordinate things so you don't have to worry about having everything crammed within a short period"
If they weren't going to do what they said, they should have at least been up front about it. I seriously don't know how I am going to finish all my assignments and prepare for all my midterms. I have gone as far as to get a program on my laptop that blocks all of my favourite sites for set periods of time (I am about to enable it again after this post. It blocks any and all connection to a site and anything related to it. It also does not enable them until after the timer expires, no way to disable it either. It actually works amazingly well. I have yet to find a workaround. I believes it involves blocking ports from accessing domains. It works at a hardware level because even VMs are blocked from accessing sites. It isn't just some browser plugin or anything) so that I can get work done, and moving my desk to the empty spare bedroom so there are no distractions but it still doesn't help with the giant workload.
I have 5 assignments (4 programming, 3 of which are quite big, and 1 high level theoretical comp sci) and 3 midterms all within a 7 day period. This Wednesday I have a large data structures assignment (around 3/4 done but still). Friday I have an assignment and a midterm. Monday I have 2 large assignments (one in Assembly so it takes forever to do) and a midterm. Next Wednesday I have another assignment. Then I finally have a midterm on that Friday. It wouldn't be so bad if we actually had time to work on things. I was given 3 of the assignments on Friday. Two of the professors promised two weeks to work on each assignment at the start of the term and have already broken that promise. Instead of revising the due date they just gave us less time (a week less in one case. He said his assignments are designed to take about 20 hours to do). And they do this knowing that the extreme majority of midterms occur right now. Only one of the professors tried to avoid this from happening by moving his midterm to after the break and adjusting when our assignment was due. The others said they would at the start of the year but have not, even after being asked.
Plus 3 profs are giving assignments specifically for over the February break (as in handed out right before, due first or second day back. Department policy is no late hand-ins in most cases so people going on trips for break are basically SOL) even though they aren't supposed to, since, you know, it is supposed to be a break and all. Apparently not. I mean, I've had a massive 3 hours of free time over the last couple weeks, might as well extend that to 4 or 5 weeks of no free time.
I'm at the point of blowing off attending classes so that I can work on assignments. It should never get to this point. I know other people are doing the same so it isn't just me either. I'm not procrastinating or anything either. I start assignments the day I get them.
I guess I need to channel my inner Polt and stop sleeping...
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I managed to somehow organize myself enough to survive this all. I only have one question of one assignment left and a midterm on Monday for a class that I could probably get a 80% on without studying because I know the material quite well already. My midterm today was pretty stupid but it is only worth a tiny amount so I don't really care. I probably did fine
Show nested quote +On February 03 2014 21:42 Wombat_NI wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
In the same way music is ruined by people who don't really like music. If i have to hear another chick go on about how talented the DJ is in some club, who somehow can't comprehend that he is a fucking hack I'm going to scream. Guy in my local, has girls flocking around him who think he's hot shit. He has two jobs, sort a playlist (he's used the same one last 4 weeks, identical track order), and basic EQing. The playlist one is debatable, the mixing one is beyond a joke. The speakers in that place actually have asked me to kill them such is the silly strain put on the bass ones especially.
Show nested quote +On February 05 2014 09:12 zyce wrote:I'm just mad about how people talk about music. I take music really seriously, and so I rant about it and share a few songs below. + Show Spoiler +I'm really sick of how people act about music. Stop talking about music like you're a fucking wine connoiseur. You don't know fucking SHITI spent many years as a professional instrumentalist, and I play an actual wind instrument - not a fucking guitar or drums or some bullshit. I took that shit as serious as possible. Ever heard of the "10,000 hour rule"? It supposedly takes 10,000 hours to master something. I've spent at least 75,000 hours playing music, just on my main instrument. I was the best musician at my high school. I was also the best in my district, in my state, and in my region of the country. When I was a freshman. When it comes to listening to music, I take it seriously as well. I spend an incredible amount of time listening to music, much of it listening to as many new tracks as I possibly can. I'm always trying to find another song that I love, that I appreciate, that I can listen to and save and share with my friends. I keep track of all my friends musical tastes, and their opinions are incredibly important to me. I don't lock myself into a single genre, or style of music. I just want to hear as much as I can, and know as many songs as I can. I want to be one of the first to hear an amazing new song, and I want to be the one that tells you about it. I wish more people would be open to new music, and develop their own unique tastes. Too many people simply follow a couple genres, listening to popular albums from the bands that their friends like. They share music to impress other people. It's important what other people think about the songs they're listening to. I wish they didn't fucking exist, and would shut the fuck up forever about music. You're a tone-deaf piece of shit who's never REALLY listening to music like you should. The problem is, I don't know what advice to give you. Maybe try listening to music like you're browsing for pornography in your top-secret incognito mode browser. Stop giving a fuck what anyone else thinks unless you're going to share music with them. Listen to classical and jazz, and listen to brand new music. If you think it's possible you might like it, give it a chance. Put some work into listening to music, and try to get better at it. Everyone should have the chance to truly enjoy music, always expanding their collections and repertoire. Put some thought into it. Just stop taking yourself so fucking seriously if you aren't a serious musician or listener. If I have just 5 or 10 of your most-listened to tracks, I can give you 20 more tracks you've never heard of from just the last year that you'll leave just as much, if not more. I listen to a fuckload of music, it's my one true talent, and I care about this stuff more than you'll ever know. I wish I knew how others could find a way to enjoy it as much as I do, and It makes me angry that I can't figure out how to teach them. Also, music IS NOT THE FUCKING FASHION INDUSTRY. Shut the fuck up about trends, fads, or music being in or out of style. Listen to what you want to hear, what moves you or what makes you move. Listen to what makes you smile or what makes you cry. So do me a favor and please just shut the fuck up and turn up the volume. The last few songs I've listened to this evening, for the curious -
+ Show Spoiler +I know exactly what both of you mean. I avoid talking to most people about music anymore because it is an exercise in futility. I'll ask people what kind of music they like and the response is either "everything", which is usually just a very narrow range of music and not actually anything (I stop trying to continue the conversation at that point because it is obvious where it will go), or they will give a group or genre, I'll ask what else, and then I'll get a blank stare. I can immediately tell when I am talking to someone else who is quite passionate about music because their response will be something unpredictable.
I have a feeling both of you share similarities with me when it comes to how we view and listen to music. I listen to music probably 8-10 hours a day (2 hours each morning, while I work on homework for 6-8 hours, and then for an hour before I fall asleep. My favourite time is right before falling asleep. I listen to it just sitting on my bed or laying in bed, lights out so I can completely concentrate on it. I have to force myself to stop or I would easily stay up all night listening), and will listen to anything depending on my mood. Tonight I was quite happy because I finished a bunch of stressful stuff so my choice was my finely tuned upbeat, synth-focused 80s pop playlist, yesterday was Weather Report and Return To Forever, because instrumental music like Jazz Fusion, Classical, Jazz, etc. is, erm, instrumental in helping me focus when studying or working on something important.
What I frequently will do is take a band, look at what influenced them or what else each musician in the band has accomplished, listen to that, then go back to the band and see how it changes my perspective on them. This both broadens my horizons and allows me to appreciate a group I already like even more. For example, with Weather Report, shortly after finding how much I liked them I went and listened to some of Wayne Shorter's material from the 60s and ended up loving that all a bunch, likewise with Jaco and Joe. I've been listening to some Zawinul Syndicate lately as a result as well.
However, I will argue that passion for music transcends what instrument you play (though I know what you mean. There are a billion and one people who will state "I play guitar" when they have put maybe a few hours into it and barely know anything. I had a buddy who was like that with drums. He claimed to be insanely good but it was obvious he never practiced with a metronome because he could barely keep a beat. He would do all these elaborate fills but then fall apart on the basics). I've played many instruments over the years, guitar for 9, Saxophone for 10 (I would guess I am near the 10000 hour mark on this. I quit a few years ago. It just doesn't do anything for me anymore. I used to love playing sax), piano (and later synth) for 9, and bass for 7. In the end, the one that has stuck with me the most has been the bass. Despite it having a reputation of being kinda boring (but again, who cares what people think), I find it to be the most interesting for me, and I find it really easy to be quite passionate about it. I love studying how jazz bassists construct their lines and finding the logic in it. I've been studying improvisation and composition quite seriously for the past little while. I used to have only a cursory grasp of how improvised walking basslines in jazz worked, but now that I know significantly more, I can appreciate them quite a bit both when playing them and when listening to others. I still regret not majoring in music. I wouldn't be shocked if I go back to school and doing a music degree at some point. Though I do partly blame my high school band teacher on steering me away from music at the time. That's what happens when you take the joy out of things and focus solely on competition. Now that I am free of that restraint I am having far more fun. Being the bassist for the jazz band used to be a chore, now it's my main hobby.
I guess what all this comes down to, particularly with regards to others, is that it is a real shame that more people don't commit more time to listening to, learning, and appreciating music. It can enrich your life so much if you put in the effort.
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You guys shouldn't be so concerned with how others feel to be honest. This is not advice about music because I probably know nothing compared to you guys. But I know how you're feeling about having a passion and how other people don't feel as intensely about it as you do. I think I learned from my own experience. You can never force someone to do something just because you care about the subject a lot, you'll always come across as kind of a jerk in the end, even if you know you're right.
There are always those who become pessimistic about people because they don't generally behave in a certain way. You guys should free yourselves from that mindset. Just know that you appreciate music or whatever else it is you care about better than others and be content with that.
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On February 10 2014 04:20 PSdualwielder wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 15:48 Ben... wrote:On February 03 2014 13:08 Ben... wrote:+ Show Spoiler +"Don't worry about assignments or tests overlapping. The computer science professors coordinate things so you don't have to worry about having everything crammed within a short period"
If they weren't going to do what they said, they should have at least been up front about it. I seriously don't know how I am going to finish all my assignments and prepare for all my midterms. I have gone as far as to get a program on my laptop that blocks all of my favourite sites for set periods of time (I am about to enable it again after this post. It blocks any and all connection to a site and anything related to it. It also does not enable them until after the timer expires, no way to disable it either. It actually works amazingly well. I have yet to find a workaround. I believes it involves blocking ports from accessing domains. It works at a hardware level because even VMs are blocked from accessing sites. It isn't just some browser plugin or anything) so that I can get work done, and moving my desk to the empty spare bedroom so there are no distractions but it still doesn't help with the giant workload.
I have 5 assignments (4 programming, 3 of which are quite big, and 1 high level theoretical comp sci) and 3 midterms all within a 7 day period. This Wednesday I have a large data structures assignment (around 3/4 done but still). Friday I have an assignment and a midterm. Monday I have 2 large assignments (one in Assembly so it takes forever to do) and a midterm. Next Wednesday I have another assignment. Then I finally have a midterm on that Friday. It wouldn't be so bad if we actually had time to work on things. I was given 3 of the assignments on Friday. Two of the professors promised two weeks to work on each assignment at the start of the term and have already broken that promise. Instead of revising the due date they just gave us less time (a week less in one case. He said his assignments are designed to take about 20 hours to do). And they do this knowing that the extreme majority of midterms occur right now. Only one of the professors tried to avoid this from happening by moving his midterm to after the break and adjusting when our assignment was due. The others said they would at the start of the year but have not, even after being asked.
Plus 3 profs are giving assignments specifically for over the February break (as in handed out right before, due first or second day back. Department policy is no late hand-ins in most cases so people going on trips for break are basically SOL) even though they aren't supposed to, since, you know, it is supposed to be a break and all. Apparently not. I mean, I've had a massive 3 hours of free time over the last couple weeks, might as well extend that to 4 or 5 weeks of no free time.
I'm at the point of blowing off attending classes so that I can work on assignments. It should never get to this point. I know other people are doing the same so it isn't just me either. I'm not procrastinating or anything either. I start assignments the day I get them.
I guess I need to channel my inner Polt and stop sleeping...
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I managed to somehow organize myself enough to survive this all. I only have one question of one assignment left and a midterm on Monday for a class that I could probably get a 80% on without studying because I know the material quite well already. My midterm today was pretty stupid but it is only worth a tiny amount so I don't really care. I probably did fine
On February 03 2014 21:42 Wombat_NI wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
In the same way music is ruined by people who don't really like music. If i have to hear another chick go on about how talented the DJ is in some club, who somehow can't comprehend that he is a fucking hack I'm going to scream. Guy in my local, has girls flocking around him who think he's hot shit. He has two jobs, sort a playlist (he's used the same one last 4 weeks, identical track order), and basic EQing. The playlist one is debatable, the mixing one is beyond a joke. The speakers in that place actually have asked me to kill them such is the silly strain put on the bass ones especially.
On February 05 2014 09:12 zyce wrote:I'm just mad about how people talk about music. I take music really seriously, and so I rant about it and share a few songs below. + Show Spoiler +I'm really sick of how people act about music. Stop talking about music like you're a fucking wine connoiseur. You don't know fucking SHITI spent many years as a professional instrumentalist, and I play an actual wind instrument - not a fucking guitar or drums or some bullshit. I took that shit as serious as possible. Ever heard of the "10,000 hour rule"? It supposedly takes 10,000 hours to master something. I've spent at least 75,000 hours playing music, just on my main instrument. I was the best musician at my high school. I was also the best in my district, in my state, and in my region of the country. When I was a freshman. When it comes to listening to music, I take it seriously as well. I spend an incredible amount of time listening to music, much of it listening to as many new tracks as I possibly can. I'm always trying to find another song that I love, that I appreciate, that I can listen to and save and share with my friends. I keep track of all my friends musical tastes, and their opinions are incredibly important to me. I don't lock myself into a single genre, or style of music. I just want to hear as much as I can, and know as many songs as I can. I want to be one of the first to hear an amazing new song, and I want to be the one that tells you about it. I wish more people would be open to new music, and develop their own unique tastes. Too many people simply follow a couple genres, listening to popular albums from the bands that their friends like. They share music to impress other people. It's important what other people think about the songs they're listening to. I wish they didn't fucking exist, and would shut the fuck up forever about music. You're a tone-deaf piece of shit who's never REALLY listening to music like you should. The problem is, I don't know what advice to give you. Maybe try listening to music like you're browsing for pornography in your top-secret incognito mode browser. Stop giving a fuck what anyone else thinks unless you're going to share music with them. Listen to classical and jazz, and listen to brand new music. If you think it's possible you might like it, give it a chance. Put some work into listening to music, and try to get better at it. Everyone should have the chance to truly enjoy music, always expanding their collections and repertoire. Put some thought into it. Just stop taking yourself so fucking seriously if you aren't a serious musician or listener. If I have just 5 or 10 of your most-listened to tracks, I can give you 20 more tracks you've never heard of from just the last year that you'll leave just as much, if not more. I listen to a fuckload of music, it's my one true talent, and I care about this stuff more than you'll ever know. I wish I knew how others could find a way to enjoy it as much as I do, and It makes me angry that I can't figure out how to teach them. Also, music IS NOT THE FUCKING FASHION INDUSTRY. Shut the fuck up about trends, fads, or music being in or out of style. Listen to what you want to hear, what moves you or what makes you move. Listen to what makes you smile or what makes you cry. So do me a favor and please just shut the fuck up and turn up the volume. The last few songs I've listened to this evening, for the curious -
+ Show Spoiler +I know exactly what both of you mean. I avoid talking to most people about music anymore because it is an exercise in futility. I'll ask people what kind of music they like and the response is either "everything", which is usually just a very narrow range of music and not actually anything (I stop trying to continue the conversation at that point because it is obvious where it will go), or they will give a group or genre, I'll ask what else, and then I'll get a blank stare. I can immediately tell when I am talking to someone else who is quite passionate about music because their response will be something unpredictable.
I have a feeling both of you share similarities with me when it comes to how we view and listen to music. I listen to music probably 8-10 hours a day (2 hours each morning, while I work on homework for 6-8 hours, and then for an hour before I fall asleep. My favourite time is right before falling asleep. I listen to it just sitting on my bed or laying in bed, lights out so I can completely concentrate on it. I have to force myself to stop or I would easily stay up all night listening), and will listen to anything depending on my mood. Tonight I was quite happy because I finished a bunch of stressful stuff so my choice was my finely tuned upbeat, synth-focused 80s pop playlist, yesterday was Weather Report and Return To Forever, because instrumental music like Jazz Fusion, Classical, Jazz, etc. is, erm, instrumental in helping me focus when studying or working on something important.
What I frequently will do is take a band, look at what influenced them or what else each musician in the band has accomplished, listen to that, then go back to the band and see how it changes my perspective on them. This both broadens my horizons and allows me to appreciate a group I already like even more. For example, with Weather Report, shortly after finding how much I liked them I went and listened to some of Wayne Shorter's material from the 60s and ended up loving that all a bunch, likewise with Jaco and Joe. I've been listening to some Zawinul Syndicate lately as a result as well.
However, I will argue that passion for music transcends what instrument you play (though I know what you mean. There are a billion and one people who will state "I play guitar" when they have put maybe a few hours into it and barely know anything. I had a buddy who was like that with drums. He claimed to be insanely good but it was obvious he never practiced with a metronome because he could barely keep a beat. He would do all these elaborate fills but then fall apart on the basics). I've played many instruments over the years, guitar for 9, Saxophone for 10 (I would guess I am near the 10000 hour mark on this. I quit a few years ago. It just doesn't do anything for me anymore. I used to love playing sax), piano (and later synth) for 9, and bass for 7. In the end, the one that has stuck with me the most has been the bass. Despite it having a reputation of being kinda boring (but again, who cares what people think), I find it to be the most interesting for me, and I find it really easy to be quite passionate about it. I love studying how jazz bassists construct their lines and finding the logic in it. I've been studying improvisation and composition quite seriously for the past little while. I used to have only a cursory grasp of how improvised walking basslines in jazz worked, but now that I know significantly more, I can appreciate them quite a bit both when playing them and when listening to others. I still regret not majoring in music. I wouldn't be shocked if I go back to school and doing a music degree at some point. Though I do partly blame my high school band teacher on steering me away from music at the time. That's what happens when you take the joy out of things and focus solely on competition. Now that I am free of that restraint I am having far more fun. Being the bassist for the jazz band used to be a chore, now it's my main hobby.
I guess what all this comes down to, particularly with regards to others, is that it is a real shame that more people don't commit more time to listening to, learning, and appreciating music. It can enrich your life so much if you put in the effort.
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You guys shouldn't be so concerned with how others feel to be honest. This is not advice about music because I probably know nothing compared to you guys. But I know how you're feeling about having a passion and how other people don't feel as intensely about it as you do. I think I learned from my own experience. You can never force someone to do something just because you care about the subject a lot, you'll always come across as kind of a jerk in the end, even if you know you're right.
There are always those who become pessimistic about people because they don't generally behave in a certain way. You guys should free yourselves from that mindset. Just know that you appreciate music or whatever else it is you care about better than others and be content with that.
+ Show Spoiler +I have no issue with people not feeling as passionate, but when they start to claim equivalency in that regard it gets pretty damn annoying.
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+ Show Spoiler +FUCK HEARTHSTONE. Seriously. It's completely pay to win and now Kripp streams nothing but Hearthstone because for some fucking reason he always has more than 20k people watching him play and is obviously making big bank off it and cant stop. That is all.
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+ Show Spoiler +So I just read the dumbest article I've ever read in my life, Sady Doyle's take on how A Song of Ice and Fire is both racist and sexist. But because I'm a man and she's a feminist on the interwebs, I can never argue about this, because that would mean I'm "mansplaining" and I'm a sexist myself. Tilts the hell out of me.
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+ Show Spoiler +Fuck sake. the time in which I could be bothered and have the time free to play is limited these days. Go to log and lo and behold, problems joining lobbies, no luck with Starbow lobbies, neither me and my friend who wanted to try it out could get in.
Fucking battlenet 2.0 is so bad sometimes it's painful. I could barely be bothered to play these days for a variety of reasons, but in the rare times when I am in the mood why must half times Bnet make my life difficult? WHY IS IT SO BAD? WHY DID I NOT HAVE THESE ISSUES 10+ YEARS AGO?
If there were a load of great features that had been added to mitigate the occasional problems I encounter it'd be tolerable, but no it's barely equivalent even now, perhaps still WORSE than the old Battlenet. Holy fuck, I wish people would occasionally whine more about this instead of balance because it's frankly ridiculous and IMO is a bigger part of the decline in playerbase than is often made out by many. Speaking from people I know, many found the custom game system, the lack of a real feeling of community vibe etc were all contributory factors.
Us Northern Irish players bought a TeamSpeak server and use Skype to make it a more social and bearable experience, why does the revamped Bnet pretty much make using third party applications a pre-requisite to make the gaming experience at all social? Fucking ridiculous.
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On February 10 2014 16:07 Nebuchad wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So I just read the dumbest article I've ever read in my life, Sady Doyle's take on how A Song of Ice and Fire is both racist and sexist. But because I'm a man and she's a feminist on the interwebs, I can never argue about this, because that would mean I'm "mansplaining" and I'm a sexist myself. Tilts the hell out of me.
+ Show Spoiler +Fucking feminist logic right?
A man writes a realistic universe with realistic characters within a fantasy setting where female characters are faced with sexual violence (like you know real life) and she fucking suggests that the 'R's' from George R. R. Martin have something to do with rape... Frustrating.
This whole mess is completely fucked up though, why are they implying that if someone writes about something, they must be glorifying it? I think certain behaviors are fascinating but also morally reprehensible as fuck. It doesn't mean that we shouldn't write about it. They make movies about slavery and to my knowledge it's not because they want to glorify slavery. The presence of gender roles in a sort of medieval setting, as well as the threat of sexual violence, make perfect sense.
Nobody would give a flying fuck about A Song Of Ice And Fire had a bunch of women on equal standing with men given the setting. It would be a joke. Fuck, other feminists would criticize it because "strong women are just females with male characteristics: that's sexist". What can you even fucking do anymore?
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On February 11 2014 12:39 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2014 16:07 Nebuchad wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So I just read the dumbest article I've ever read in my life, Sady Doyle's take on how A Song of Ice and Fire is both racist and sexist. But because I'm a man and she's a feminist on the interwebs, I can never argue about this, because that would mean I'm "mansplaining" and I'm a sexist myself. Tilts the hell out of me. + Show Spoiler +Fucking feminist logic right?
A man writes a realistic universe with realistic characters within a fantasy setting where female characters are faced with sexual violence (like you know real life) and she fucking suggests that the 'R's' from George R. R. Martin have something to do with rape... Frustrating.
This whole mess is completely fucked up though, why are they implying that if someone writes about something, they must be glorifying it? I think certain behaviors are fascinating but also morally reprehensible as fuck. It doesn't mean that we shouldn't write about it. They make movies about slavery and to my knowledge it's not because they want to glorify slavery. The presence of gender roles in a sort of medieval setting, as well as the threat of sexual violence, make perfect sense.
Nobody would give a flying fuck about A Song Of Ice And Fire had a bunch of women on equal standing with men given the setting. It would be a joke. Fuck, other feminists would criticize it because "strong women are just females with male characteristics: that's sexist". What can you even fucking do anymore?
+ Show Spoiler +Because many feminist commentators talk the biggest load of shit a hell of a lot of the time. Either stuff that is straight-up unrealistic or flat-out wrong, or stuff that is so trivial as to be a waste of my reading time.
There is a hell of a lot of interesting and worthwhile stuff to be discussed within the tangled web that is gender relations, but so often what is written about isn't it. Got to the stage I couldn't be fucked reading blogs, or seeking out such things because there is SO MUCH asinine crap to wade through.
Frankly many bloggers (not just feminists) seem to benefit by either antagonising people, or being controversial for its own sake, as that redirects traffic their way. Meanwhile those who write thoughtful, balanced stuff get buried amongst the shite.
TLDR the 'new media' is just the old media in slightly different clothing.
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On February 11 2014 12:45 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2014 12:39 Djzapz wrote:On February 10 2014 16:07 Nebuchad wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So I just read the dumbest article I've ever read in my life, Sady Doyle's take on how A Song of Ice and Fire is both racist and sexist. But because I'm a man and she's a feminist on the interwebs, I can never argue about this, because that would mean I'm "mansplaining" and I'm a sexist myself. Tilts the hell out of me. + Show Spoiler +Fucking feminist logic right?
A man writes a realistic universe with realistic characters within a fantasy setting where female characters are faced with sexual violence (like you know real life) and she fucking suggests that the 'R's' from George R. R. Martin have something to do with rape... Frustrating.
This whole mess is completely fucked up though, why are they implying that if someone writes about something, they must be glorifying it? I think certain behaviors are fascinating but also morally reprehensible as fuck. It doesn't mean that we shouldn't write about it. They make movies about slavery and to my knowledge it's not because they want to glorify slavery. The presence of gender roles in a sort of medieval setting, as well as the threat of sexual violence, make perfect sense.
Nobody would give a flying fuck about A Song Of Ice And Fire had a bunch of women on equal standing with men given the setting. It would be a joke. Fuck, other feminists would criticize it because "strong women are just females with male characteristics: that's sexist". What can you even fucking do anymore?
+ Show Spoiler +Because many feminist commentators talk the biggest load of shit a hell of a lot of the time. Either stuff that is straight-up unrealistic or flat-out wrong, or stuff that is so trivial as to be a waste of my reading time.
There is a hell of a lot of interesting and worthwhile stuff to be discussed within the tangled web that is gender relations, but so often what is written about isn't it. Got to the stage I couldn't be fucked reading blogs, or seeking out such things because there is SO MUCH asinine crap to wade through.
Frankly many bloggers (not just feminists) seem to benefit by either antagonising people, or being controversial for its own sake, as that redirects traffic their way. Meanwhile those who write thoughtful, balanced stuff get buried amongst the shite.
TLDR the 'new media' is just the old media in slightly different clothing.
+ Show Spoiler +Oh god I hate stuff like hers. Even if there's some merit to her base opinions, linking it to GRRM? Come on. It's a completely contrived argument, it's like saying basing the whole thing off of medieval England is cultural appropriation, except white people have no culture to appropriate amirite
But yeah. The whole thing (not feminism in general, but this new form of social justice) is one antagonistic circlejerk started by people who can only get what they want in life by demanding it from others, and supported by masochists who support them as a gesture of burying their heads in the metaphorical sand.
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On February 11 2014 13:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2014 12:45 Wombat_NI wrote:On February 11 2014 12:39 Djzapz wrote:On February 10 2014 16:07 Nebuchad wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So I just read the dumbest article I've ever read in my life, Sady Doyle's take on how A Song of Ice and Fire is both racist and sexist. But because I'm a man and she's a feminist on the interwebs, I can never argue about this, because that would mean I'm "mansplaining" and I'm a sexist myself. Tilts the hell out of me. + Show Spoiler +Fucking feminist logic right?
A man writes a realistic universe with realistic characters within a fantasy setting where female characters are faced with sexual violence (like you know real life) and she fucking suggests that the 'R's' from George R. R. Martin have something to do with rape... Frustrating.
This whole mess is completely fucked up though, why are they implying that if someone writes about something, they must be glorifying it? I think certain behaviors are fascinating but also morally reprehensible as fuck. It doesn't mean that we shouldn't write about it. They make movies about slavery and to my knowledge it's not because they want to glorify slavery. The presence of gender roles in a sort of medieval setting, as well as the threat of sexual violence, make perfect sense.
Nobody would give a flying fuck about A Song Of Ice And Fire had a bunch of women on equal standing with men given the setting. It would be a joke. Fuck, other feminists would criticize it because "strong women are just females with male characteristics: that's sexist". What can you even fucking do anymore?
+ Show Spoiler +Because many feminist commentators talk the biggest load of shit a hell of a lot of the time. Either stuff that is straight-up unrealistic or flat-out wrong, or stuff that is so trivial as to be a waste of my reading time.
There is a hell of a lot of interesting and worthwhile stuff to be discussed within the tangled web that is gender relations, but so often what is written about isn't it. Got to the stage I couldn't be fucked reading blogs, or seeking out such things because there is SO MUCH asinine crap to wade through.
Frankly many bloggers (not just feminists) seem to benefit by either antagonising people, or being controversial for its own sake, as that redirects traffic their way. Meanwhile those who write thoughtful, balanced stuff get buried amongst the shite.
TLDR the 'new media' is just the old media in slightly different clothing. + Show Spoiler +Oh god I hate stuff like hers. Even if there's some merit to her base opinions, linking it to GRRM? Come on. It's a completely contrived argument, it's like saying basing the whole thing off of medieval England is cultural appropriation, except white people have no culture to appropriate amirite
But yeah. The whole thing (not feminism in general, but this new form of social justice) is one antagonistic circlejerk started by people who can only get what they want in life by demanding it from others, and supported by masochists who support them as a gesture of burying their heads in the metaphorical sand.
+ Show Spoiler +A lot of it strikes me as a lot of people who view their own failings or travails in life being never due to them themselves, or whatever faults they may have and a desire for the entirety of society to mold itself to whatever would be most beneficial for them and their social views.
Worse, there are some who just get off in being a social justice warrior. Some asshole I know, I swear to god would genuinely not enjoy it imo if her utopian vision came to being, because her entire self-image is based around fighting for the little guy, or against injustice in general (real or imagined).
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On February 11 2014 13:09 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2014 13:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On February 11 2014 12:45 Wombat_NI wrote:On February 11 2014 12:39 Djzapz wrote:On February 10 2014 16:07 Nebuchad wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So I just read the dumbest article I've ever read in my life, Sady Doyle's take on how A Song of Ice and Fire is both racist and sexist. But because I'm a man and she's a feminist on the interwebs, I can never argue about this, because that would mean I'm "mansplaining" and I'm a sexist myself. Tilts the hell out of me. + Show Spoiler +Fucking feminist logic right?
A man writes a realistic universe with realistic characters within a fantasy setting where female characters are faced with sexual violence (like you know real life) and she fucking suggests that the 'R's' from George R. R. Martin have something to do with rape... Frustrating.
This whole mess is completely fucked up though, why are they implying that if someone writes about something, they must be glorifying it? I think certain behaviors are fascinating but also morally reprehensible as fuck. It doesn't mean that we shouldn't write about it. They make movies about slavery and to my knowledge it's not because they want to glorify slavery. The presence of gender roles in a sort of medieval setting, as well as the threat of sexual violence, make perfect sense.
Nobody would give a flying fuck about A Song Of Ice And Fire had a bunch of women on equal standing with men given the setting. It would be a joke. Fuck, other feminists would criticize it because "strong women are just females with male characteristics: that's sexist". What can you even fucking do anymore?
+ Show Spoiler +Because many feminist commentators talk the biggest load of shit a hell of a lot of the time. Either stuff that is straight-up unrealistic or flat-out wrong, or stuff that is so trivial as to be a waste of my reading time.
There is a hell of a lot of interesting and worthwhile stuff to be discussed within the tangled web that is gender relations, but so often what is written about isn't it. Got to the stage I couldn't be fucked reading blogs, or seeking out such things because there is SO MUCH asinine crap to wade through.
Frankly many bloggers (not just feminists) seem to benefit by either antagonising people, or being controversial for its own sake, as that redirects traffic their way. Meanwhile those who write thoughtful, balanced stuff get buried amongst the shite.
TLDR the 'new media' is just the old media in slightly different clothing. + Show Spoiler +Oh god I hate stuff like hers. Even if there's some merit to her base opinions, linking it to GRRM? Come on. It's a completely contrived argument, it's like saying basing the whole thing off of medieval England is cultural appropriation, except white people have no culture to appropriate amirite
But yeah. The whole thing (not feminism in general, but this new form of social justice) is one antagonistic circlejerk started by people who can only get what they want in life by demanding it from others, and supported by masochists who support them as a gesture of burying their heads in the metaphorical sand. + Show Spoiler +A lot of it strikes me as a lot of people who view their own failings or travails in life being never due to them themselves, or whatever faults they may have and a desire for the entirety of society to mold itself to whatever would be most beneficial for them and their social views.
Worse, there are some who just get off in being a social justice warrior. Some asshole I know, I swear to god would genuinely not enjoy it imo if her utopian vision came to being, because her entire self-image is based around fighting for the little guy, or against injustice in general (real or imagined).
+ Show Spoiler +Good shit Freud, let's discuss this further around a pound of cocaine.
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+ Show Spoiler +I have been going through some... difficulties with a special person and it just seems to get worse. We (well, she) decided on needing some alone time. It is one of those times when I am the one feeling like shit, wondering how long a person should wait, all that fun stuff. Obviously there will be many that say just move on, forget about her, but it is incredibly difficult for me to simply shut off feelings. I feel so exhausted since it seems like those around me use me and when I am no longer needed, I get tossed away.
Since then, I have started getting more and more irritated. Just imagine the harry Potter movies when Harry starts getting more and more angry. That is how I feel, things I normally shake off are now hanging around. It does not help that Valentines day is coming up and that is everything commercials are talking about. Sometimes I hate caring about people because in the end, people are the ones that fuck you over. I just want things to go back to how they were before the argument and what scares me is that it probably wont... and that person will move on, forget about me, and I will continue to feel like shit until the next person comes along and tramples on my feelings.
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On February 11 2014 13:49 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2014 13:09 Wombat_NI wrote:On February 11 2014 13:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On February 11 2014 12:45 Wombat_NI wrote:On February 11 2014 12:39 Djzapz wrote:On February 10 2014 16:07 Nebuchad wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So I just read the dumbest article I've ever read in my life, Sady Doyle's take on how A Song of Ice and Fire is both racist and sexist. But because I'm a man and she's a feminist on the interwebs, I can never argue about this, because that would mean I'm "mansplaining" and I'm a sexist myself. Tilts the hell out of me. + Show Spoiler +Fucking feminist logic right?
A man writes a realistic universe with realistic characters within a fantasy setting where female characters are faced with sexual violence (like you know real life) and she fucking suggests that the 'R's' from George R. R. Martin have something to do with rape... Frustrating.
This whole mess is completely fucked up though, why are they implying that if someone writes about something, they must be glorifying it? I think certain behaviors are fascinating but also morally reprehensible as fuck. It doesn't mean that we shouldn't write about it. They make movies about slavery and to my knowledge it's not because they want to glorify slavery. The presence of gender roles in a sort of medieval setting, as well as the threat of sexual violence, make perfect sense.
Nobody would give a flying fuck about A Song Of Ice And Fire had a bunch of women on equal standing with men given the setting. It would be a joke. Fuck, other feminists would criticize it because "strong women are just females with male characteristics: that's sexist". What can you even fucking do anymore?
+ Show Spoiler +Because many feminist commentators talk the biggest load of shit a hell of a lot of the time. Either stuff that is straight-up unrealistic or flat-out wrong, or stuff that is so trivial as to be a waste of my reading time.
There is a hell of a lot of interesting and worthwhile stuff to be discussed within the tangled web that is gender relations, but so often what is written about isn't it. Got to the stage I couldn't be fucked reading blogs, or seeking out such things because there is SO MUCH asinine crap to wade through.
Frankly many bloggers (not just feminists) seem to benefit by either antagonising people, or being controversial for its own sake, as that redirects traffic their way. Meanwhile those who write thoughtful, balanced stuff get buried amongst the shite.
TLDR the 'new media' is just the old media in slightly different clothing. + Show Spoiler +Oh god I hate stuff like hers. Even if there's some merit to her base opinions, linking it to GRRM? Come on. It's a completely contrived argument, it's like saying basing the whole thing off of medieval England is cultural appropriation, except white people have no culture to appropriate amirite
But yeah. The whole thing (not feminism in general, but this new form of social justice) is one antagonistic circlejerk started by people who can only get what they want in life by demanding it from others, and supported by masochists who support them as a gesture of burying their heads in the metaphorical sand. + Show Spoiler +A lot of it strikes me as a lot of people who view their own failings or travails in life being never due to them themselves, or whatever faults they may have and a desire for the entirety of society to mold itself to whatever would be most beneficial for them and their social views.
Worse, there are some who just get off in being a social justice warrior. Some asshole I know, I swear to god would genuinely not enjoy it imo if her utopian vision came to being, because her entire self-image is based around fighting for the little guy, or against injustice in general (real or imagined). + Show Spoiler +Good shit Freud, let's discuss this further around a pound of cocaine.
Metric please my crazy French-Canadian frere. Your plan sounds good but a pound?
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+ Show Spoiler +I got curious about this Sady Doyle article so I took a look and stopped a bit of the way in because there was no need to go further. I don't know who the writer is or what her agenda and background are, but it seems like she's just another crazy-ass irrational feminist to me.
Basically she's just ranting about every female character related plot point in the story and said she didn't like it. My favorite part was essentially her thesis statement which went like, I could write a long detailed reasonable explanation of what's wrong with the series but you nerds will say I'm crazy and dismiss me. So she went on a long and not detailed rant instead to prove that she's crazy. I think according to her logic there's no possible female character ever written in fiction that doesn't piss her off.
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On February 11 2014 14:20 Nilrem wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I have been going through some... difficulties with a special person and it just seems to get worse. We (well, she) decided on needing some alone time. It is one of those times when I am the one feeling like shit, wondering how long a person should wait, all that fun stuff. Obviously there will be many that say just move on, forget about her, but it is incredibly difficult for me to simply shut off feelings. I feel so exhausted since it seems like those around me use me and when I am no longer needed, I get tossed away.
Since then, I have started getting more and more irritated. Just imagine the harry Potter movies when Harry starts getting more and more angry. That is how I feel, things I normally shake off are now hanging around. It does not help that Valentines day is coming up and that is everything commercials are talking about. Sometimes I hate caring about people because in the end, people are the ones that fuck you over. I just want things to go back to how they were before the argument and what scares me is that it probably wont... and that person will move on, forget about me, and I will continue to feel like shit until the next person comes along and tramples on my feelings.
Ok, wow. Let's back up a second. First off, breath deep and I'm sorry to hear you are in a rough spot with someone you really like but let's try and figure this out. Instead of jumping the ship and running away (which for some reason you think everyone is going to tell you to do that). I believe if you do really like the person, if it is in the best interest of both then you two should try to work it out. I know this is a "blow off steam" thread but..
First off what is the relationship between you two? (Close friends, sexual friends, dating long or short term). What were the events that lead up to her saying this? Is it more of her own personal problems or is it something that she is bothered by you with.
I want to keep this short so just try and step back and figure out some of these questions. Do give her some space but after a some time reach out and ask for her to lend a ear and express your feelings. Communication BOTH ways is key here because it allows some insight into yourself. Just sitting back like a statue and not doing anything can help to a certain extent but you do need to try and communicate. At least try and understand her reasoning for wanting to get away and then you might get some closure.
Edit: I know I'm speaking in large generalization but it's due to not having that much info. I do hope for the best buddy. Just remember, in moments like these communication is the most powerful tool and having the ability to use it in a respectful manner that allows you to speak your mind but also giving an ear for her to talk to takes a lot of practice and skill. It's being able to take in her thoughts in a caring way and while some words may be hurtful/wrong etc.. You gotta be able to roll with it and still express thoughtful dialogue back.
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On February 11 2014 17:13 Shelke14 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2014 14:20 Nilrem wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I have been going through some... difficulties with a special person and it just seems to get worse. We (well, she) decided on needing some alone time. It is one of those times when I am the one feeling like shit, wondering how long a person should wait, all that fun stuff. Obviously there will be many that say just move on, forget about her, but it is incredibly difficult for me to simply shut off feelings. I feel so exhausted since it seems like those around me use me and when I am no longer needed, I get tossed away.
Since then, I have started getting more and more irritated. Just imagine the harry Potter movies when Harry starts getting more and more angry. That is how I feel, things I normally shake off are now hanging around. It does not help that Valentines day is coming up and that is everything commercials are talking about. Sometimes I hate caring about people because in the end, people are the ones that fuck you over. I just want things to go back to how they were before the argument and what scares me is that it probably wont... and that person will move on, forget about me, and I will continue to feel like shit until the next person comes along and tramples on my feelings. + Show Spoiler +Ok, wow. Let's back up a second. First off, breath deep and I'm sorry to hear you are in a rough spot with someone you really like but let's try and figure this out. Instead of jumping the ship and running away (which for some reason you think everyone is going to tell you to do that). I believe if you do really like the person, if it is in the best interest of both then you two should try to work it out. I know this is a "blow off steam" thread but..
First off what is the relationship between you two? (Close friends, sexual friends, dating long or short term). What were the events that lead up to her saying this? Is it more of her own personal problems or is it something that she is bothered by you with.
I want to keep this short so just try and step back and figure out some of these questions. Do give her some space but after a some time reach out and ask for her to lend a ear and express your feelings. Communication BOTH ways is key here because it allows some insight into yourself. Just sitting back like a statue and not doing anything can help to a certain extent but you do need to try and communicate. At least try and understand her reasoning for wanting to get away and then you might get some closure.
+ Show Spoiler +At one point she said she had thought things were getting too personal (which I am not entirely sure what that actually means). I mean, we would talk one way or another nearly every day for the past two years now. Watch series together, movies, etc., talk about most things. But there was one night we got in a minor argument because we were on skype and she had vanished without a word. Now, I do not believe you have to be in a relationship or anything but I usually think it is courtesy for someone to say they are taking off or something. I mean, my friends and I do that and she took offense. She said we were close but not that close which... seeing as friends tend to do that, sort of the norm. It is one of those things where probably issues have been slowly growing but never brought up by her and one minor thing killed the mood.
Well, the next day she was no where to be seen. Went on for longer and realized hey, she was purposely avoiding me. Tried messaging her and she needed space and time so I gave it to her. Tried again and she kept up with the whole thing. I have a feeling I know what to do so this does not happen again but problem is, we have not chatted. And it is at the point where if I do try again, she probably will cut off all ties. So now I pretty much have to wait for to approach me. She said it herself, she was not like me, she needs the alone time. Problem is, as I alluded to in my post, I have difficult jumping ship to begin with. If anything, I usually can't when I should.
I do care about her a lot, and I know she cares about me, but not to the same extent or perhaps something is stopping it. Fear perhaps, sense of duty for school, not sure. The worst possible feeling though is essentially a catch 22 in my mind. I fear that by not doing anything, I will lose her. While on the other hand, if I try again, I will probably lose her (latter I believe to be more possible of a scenario). And as I said earlier, this had to happen before Valentines day so each time I hear it, I feel like shit since although the rational side of my brain tells me it was a culmination of her and I. In the end, I blame myself for potentially driving away someone I care about and someone important to me. Maybe I should go take my frustration out on some innocent folk on DayZ. Thanks for trying to help, I do love the TL community at times.
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+ Show Spoiler +Are you guys dating? At least know what kind of relationship you guys are having and act based on that.
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God actually just went and read that Sady Doyle piece. God how irritating, starts with a bunch of silly generalisations about 'nerds', starts bashing and then starts laying into a scathing piece full of irrelevant crap-flinging at the source material. There's a palpable sense that she's enjoying just baiting and waiting for the inevitable traffic to come to the piece, but that's the 'new media' for you. Fuck actual nuance, just bash things that people enjoy, sometimes for legitimate reasons but mostly for fallacious or asinine ones.
I draw a distinction between actual reviewing and deliberate bash hackjobs that are solely intended to rile up people, and this one is even more irritating because it positively reeks of try-hard.
'Hey look at me I read this 1500 page-installment of a series I have already professed to dislike, for no apparent reason other than to get more material to write my hack piece!
Oh and yeah, pulling the old 'creepy' card as well, sigh.
If you do want to apply some kind of sociological/cultural critique to a fantasy work, at least do something like this
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