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Quochobao
Profile Joined October 2010
United States350 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 00:21:57
June 06 2011 09:28 GMT
#1
Important Update: Here is where you can buy the mix online.

A tribute to Pho-lovers of Team Liquid

Let me be humbly clear that this is not a guide to make the best Pho--a culinary feat that calls for no less than an artistic understanding of this dish. Rather, this is a guide to make the best Pho at home, with convenience and simplicity in mind. But rest assured, if the result tastes good enough to soothe the hearts and stomachs of a bunch of homesick study abroad students (like my friends and me), it will surely satisfy you. It is also slightly cheaper than Pho in restaurants, if you care about the costs.

I am a very judgmental eater-- so trust me, it is worth it.

1. Broth

Making the broth is the hardest part, and it either makes or breaks your Pho. Traditionally, it takes hours of simmering with carefully selected cow bones (or cow tails) and other spices whose proportion is a family secret. Not having such luxury, we will have to cheat by using pre-packaged Pho spice, which gives surprisingly decent results.

Here is a Pho mix I found on the internet.
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I use Pho mix brought from home, so I cannot vouch for this one, but it seems decent.

Here is an article recommending it.

The recipe then becomes really simple:
- Broil onions, ginger in oven (350 F in 20 minutes), or as I preferred, charred on open fire (or stove).
- Put a pot of water on the stove. When it is boiling lightly, add the Pho mix.
- Slightly after, add charred onions, ginger, star anises, cinnamon. (It’s easy to go overboard with the spices, so be a little conservative your first time. If you are cooking for 3-4 people, you need no more than a few cloves of star anises. Taste the broth and adjust for a subtle, ephemeral scent.)
- Let the broth boil heavily.

Other notes on making the broth: + Show Spoiler +
You can, of course, add cow bones or tails in the broth for a more authentic taste. But the simmering process will take longer, and worse, you have to do a few tricks to ensure that the broth is clear and not adulterated with all the fat and impurities from the bones. So my recommendation is to just go with the packaged mix.


2. Pho noodle

- Let the dry noodle sit in warm water for 15 minutes, or until it looks like the noodles you have in restaurant. It’s really simple, use your common sense.

Here is how a package of dry noodle looks like.
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As a college kid, I have always used dry noodles for storage convenience. But if you buy fresh noodles, here is an article on how to handle it.
How to prepare Banh Pho

3. Toppings

Pho connoisseur makes a fuss about what kind of beef you should use. I find that the generic beef chunk in supermarket comes close to what I had at home, so why bother? Just buy one of those big chunk and slice it very thinly. (A good knife helps tremendously). The meat should be so thin that it can be medium-done just by sitting in the boiling water for a few seconds.

Tips on slicing the beef: + Show Spoiler +
(Michaelthe) Freeze it for an hour or two to let it firm up. You dont want it to be frozen solid, but to be pretty chilled. Makes slicing a lot easier.
(Quochobao) How to sharpen your knife at home with a ceramic bowl. Works like a charm!


Here is a list of more adventurous meat option, graciously provided by Darkchylde:

+ Show Spoiler +
Tái- Eye of Round Beef (Some places in Cali have been known to use filet)
Chín - Well-done Brisket
Gầu - Fatty Brisket
Nạm - Well-Done Flank
Ve Don - Skirt Flank
Gân - Beef Tendon
Sách - Beef Tripe
Bò Viên - Beef Meatballs
Gà - Chicken

(Without the accents, Phở "Ve don" seems unintelligible to me...I did a google search and it seems to be quite popular in the States however. Someone please enlightens us.)


- Main toppings: sliced beef, bean sprouts (See end notes for a complete list of meat choice)
- Other toppings (use more lightly): coriander, scallions (sliced vertically for a resemblance of gourmet pho)

Put the soaked noodles at bottom, toppings on top, pour boiling broth over—and you are all set!

If you want your meat less rare, soak the meat in the boiling broth for a few seconds before putting it in the bowl. You can also squeeze some lime in, or serve with chili sauce.

A personal anecdote on serving Pho with chili sauce: + Show Spoiler +
When I was young, being manly to enough to eat Pho with chili sauce was a sorta rite of passage, so I used to put in so much chili that the entire bowl is red hot. Now that my manliness is already confirmed multiple times and in numerous other ways, I personally find eating Pho with chili sauce a bit silly. It desensitizes your taste buds to the thick sweetness of the broth and the subtle scent of the spices. Plus, when you come close to finishing your Pho--also when the broth is sweetest after having toppings soaked in it the entire time--the chili often makes it too hot to enjoy those last precious drops.

But your choice anyhow.


It will take you a mere 2 times to get the right amount and proportion of spices. From then on it becomes really straightforward. Have fun cooking!

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P/S: This is called Quẩy, which is to Pho like crackers is to soup, only more essential and infinitely more fitting. It is so common in Vietnam--a bowl of Pho invariably comes with this flour-based, fried snack--yet I have not been to any restaurant in the States that has it. It is a puzzle that vexes me so much I'm gonna make my own Quẩy next time ^^
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 06 2011 09:37 GMT
#2
Thanks for making me hungry Looks delicious!
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Quanbsn
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Vietnam18 Posts
June 06 2011 09:53 GMT
#3
hey bro, do u know how to find "gầu" in US? i really miss that one...
T3tra
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States406 Posts
June 06 2011 10:00 GMT
#4
Oh my god. You actually made a whole guide. You're my hero, Quochobao ^_^
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IzieBoy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States865 Posts
June 06 2011 10:00 GMT
#5
lol you sure those yellow stick thingie are edible?
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hefty
Profile Joined January 2005
Denmark555 Posts
June 06 2011 10:02 GMT
#6
Thanks alot, looks good and I'll try to cook it soon. I am very much into thai cuisine but I've wanted to explore vietnamese for some time now. I hear there's a lot of dishes with great amounts of fresh spices, which sounds enhtrilling.

Do you have some other recommendations for me?
dongfeng
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
731 Posts
June 06 2011 10:08 GMT
#7
the fried flour based snack is "you tiao" which translates to "oil sticks", its commonly served with congee in hk and probably china

the pho looks nice ^^ gotta try this at home
Guilford
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Australia290 Posts
June 06 2011 10:12 GMT
#8
those yellow stick thingies actually go very well with many kinds of soup and some porridge too
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Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
June 06 2011 10:12 GMT
#9
Yum! I've got to try this!
Quochobao
Profile Joined October 2010
United States350 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 10:37:28
June 06 2011 10:33 GMT
#10
On June 06 2011 18:53 Quanbsn wrote:
hey bro, do u know how to find "gầu" in US? i really miss that one...


That depends on where you live :D If you live in California, I would presume that you can just go out to Vietnamese market and ask for exactly that. They have everything Vietnamese in California, lmao.

If you live on upstate NY like I do, perhaps we are out of luck...

Oh my god. You actually made a whole guide. You're my hero, Quochobao ^_^


You're very welcome! I just really enjoy cooking, and I'm very happy that people love Pho so much. So this is just a little gift for us like-minded (like-stomached?) people ^^

Do you have some other recommendations for me?


Together with Pho, Nem (spring rolls) and Banh Mi (Vietnamese sandwiches) make the trio that seems to captivate most diners outside of Vietnam. I recommend Nem, because it is more sophisticated than Banh Mi, and also because it gracefully introduces you to Nuoc Mam (fish sauce), which is so essential in Vietnamese cuisine.

Nem is essentially a fried roll, with rice-based wrap on the outside, and a varied mixture of meat, bean sprouts, wood ears, diced onions, sometimes diced carrots and shrimps, and eggs (for cohesion) inside. It is then served with a sauce made of fish sauce, vinegar, garlic, a pinch of sugar, and water. The list of ingredients is the same everywhere, but to get the right proportion is a truly masterful act.

The test of skill is also how you make the roll--how tight, uniform, and graceful a new bride can make her rolls is (once upon a time) an quintessential household skills. But girls these days...this is sadness.

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those yellow stick thingies actually go very well with many kinds of soup and some porridge too


Very true! I like to dip those yellow sticks ever so slightly into Pho/porridge so that they carry the taste of the broth while remaining crunchy. Others prefer to really soak them in the broth--meh, I don't like them soggy.
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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
June 06 2011 10:35 GMT
#11
Just wanna emphasize how important the broth is, as I tried to make pho and not having any 'authentic' broth mix made it taste horrible (I used some generic beef broth I think).
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evilduky666
Profile Joined February 2010
United States101 Posts
June 06 2011 10:35 GMT
#12
Dude, I live in San Jose and there are tons of Pho places all over, and it is so delicious. I would love to try this out sometime and make it myself (even though i'm a horrible cook =O)
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9037 Posts
June 06 2011 10:38 GMT
#13
I would translate "Banh mi" to "bread", not "sandwich".
Quochobao
Profile Joined October 2010
United States350 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 10:43:43
June 06 2011 10:39 GMT
#14
On June 06 2011 19:35 KimJongChill wrote:
Just wanna emphasize how important the broth is, as I tried to make pho and not having any 'authentic' broth mix made it taste horrible (I used some generic beef broth I think).


Yup, we need the special Pho mix. It includes not only beef broth, but also a variety of spices. And then, of course, the proportion of those spices matters greatly.

I would translate "Banh mi" to "bread", not "sandwich".


True, but in the States they do call it Vietnamese sandwich on the menu. Plus, when we refer to Banh Mi in Vietnam, we really mean Banh mi kep, right.

Otherwise, the plain banh mi is simply a serious rip off from the French lolz. It is identical to a kind of bread that a Frenchman proudly "introduced" to me as his country's delicacy.
Best or nothing.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
June 06 2011 10:42 GMT
#15
This'll hold me over until I marry a Vietnamese woman who will cook me pho everyday. :3
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
June 06 2011 11:18 GMT
#16
On June 06 2011 19:42 LoLAdriankat wrote:
This'll hold me over until I marry a Vietnamese woman who will cook me pho everyday. :3

Believe me, having Pho everyday will not be a pleasure experience, lol.
Whats up with all the Pho thread in General forum O_O.

And well, for making real soup for Pho is a very long process, this OP is just a very simple, quick and will make your Pho smell somewhat like the real deal but actually quite far from it.
Terran
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
June 06 2011 11:22 GMT
#17
This made me so hungry last night. I'll be searching for a market that carries Pho mix and such today.

I wish I cooked more for myself, I am lazy as hell.
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MetalLobster
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada532 Posts
June 06 2011 11:37 GMT
#18
Great guide! I will try this one day
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
June 06 2011 14:23 GMT
#19
How's it taste? Never even heard of it.
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besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
June 06 2011 14:51 GMT
#20
looks awesome, too bad I probably couldnt find the mix here.
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