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Studs on guys are just weird. But flesh holes can look alright on guys. As for nails, what guy gets long nails?
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On June 01 2011 02:17 VIB wrote:IMHO Earrings are bad in both men and women 
Totally agree.
Also, long fingernails and hair are gross as fuck; they accumulate filth. Long hair is especially bad on an intimate partner because they usually don't wash it every day and it smells bad and contaminates the bed.
I used to have a girlfriend with long hair, she was a smoker and her hair always smelled like cigarette smoke. Fucking nasty.
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On June 01 2011 03:12 sc4k wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 03:07 Roe wrote:On June 01 2011 02:57 sc4k wrote:On June 01 2011 02:53 Roe wrote:On June 01 2011 02:49 Facedriller wrote:On June 01 2011 02:39 Roe wrote:On June 01 2011 02:34 Facedriller wrote:
Alright, what the fuck.
Have all men turned gay?
Men should cut their fingernails short, OP.
Earrings doesnt concern me, just dont overdo it. why's that? do you get manicures as well? or do you just do a minor trim? how can growing out something be non-masculine? is sabertoothe(or avalanche or w/e his name is) feminine? do men have to wax their legs now to not be gay? I thought that was the female thing to do...What about all those cavemen, are they really woman-like since they have long nails and hair all over the place? You obviously didnt get the point. I dont get manicures, that's for women. I also dont shave my legs, that's for women. Women like long fingernails, it's feminine, i cut mine short, that's masculine. As for the cavemen thing, i'd think that their hygiene isnt the best, i take care of my hygiene. There is no point in your argument. Women are always talking about hygiene anyways. They're so finicky about clean things, so you shouldn't practice hygiene since it's what women do...You obviously didn't get my point. It's dumb placing arbitrary objectives for how to be masculine when they're illogical and inconsistent with each other. Do you ever question your beliefs or do you just go with what everyone else tells you? You have no reasons for your beliefs. Um biting your nails gets them short and the reason long nails are not manly is 1) the phrase 'eep, I broke a nail!' does not work well with men and 2) try forming a fist and punching something with long nails- not practical. And your argument about growing out = man cutting = woman obviously fails for the reason that men cut their hair and women grow theirs out. The guy was right, long finger nails = woman short = man, simple. It was just an example to show how ridiculous the whole system of judgment is. But how does it fail again? Oh right, because all men cut their hair, except the men that don't...and the men that didn't used to(Mickey Rourke is pretty manly last i checked, and of course cavemen didn't, and they're a lot manlier than anyone waxing their legs today). The logic just doesn't follow. Why do men cut their hair short? Because of the circular argument that says they cut their hair short because men cut their hair short. That's all anyone who supports this view can come up with. Dude you have to be pretty badass to pull off having long hair. Or just be a metal fan/ musician. Otherwise, you cut your hair short. I think you're just going to have to accept general consensus opinion, long nails is pretty feminine. Also I reckon the vast majority of women prefer short hair. (No source but meh)
You clearly have no grasp over the finer aspects of debate. He's saying that you're using circular logic to state that stuff isn't appropriate. You counter with... more circular logic. Stop doing that. Can you think of actual reasons? Actual, provable reasons?
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On June 01 2011 03:18 goiflin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 03:12 sc4k wrote:On June 01 2011 03:07 Roe wrote:On June 01 2011 02:57 sc4k wrote:On June 01 2011 02:53 Roe wrote:On June 01 2011 02:49 Facedriller wrote:On June 01 2011 02:39 Roe wrote:On June 01 2011 02:34 Facedriller wrote:
Alright, what the fuck.
Have all men turned gay?
Men should cut their fingernails short, OP.
Earrings doesnt concern me, just dont overdo it. why's that? do you get manicures as well? or do you just do a minor trim? how can growing out something be non-masculine? is sabertoothe(or avalanche or w/e his name is) feminine? do men have to wax their legs now to not be gay? I thought that was the female thing to do...What about all those cavemen, are they really woman-like since they have long nails and hair all over the place? You obviously didnt get the point. I dont get manicures, that's for women. I also dont shave my legs, that's for women. Women like long fingernails, it's feminine, i cut mine short, that's masculine. As for the cavemen thing, i'd think that their hygiene isnt the best, i take care of my hygiene. There is no point in your argument. Women are always talking about hygiene anyways. They're so finicky about clean things, so you shouldn't practice hygiene since it's what women do...You obviously didn't get my point. It's dumb placing arbitrary objectives for how to be masculine when they're illogical and inconsistent with each other. Do you ever question your beliefs or do you just go with what everyone else tells you? You have no reasons for your beliefs. Um biting your nails gets them short and the reason long nails are not manly is 1) the phrase 'eep, I broke a nail!' does not work well with men and 2) try forming a fist and punching something with long nails- not practical. And your argument about growing out = man cutting = woman obviously fails for the reason that men cut their hair and women grow theirs out. The guy was right, long finger nails = woman short = man, simple. It was just an example to show how ridiculous the whole system of judgment is. But how does it fail again? Oh right, because all men cut their hair, except the men that don't...and the men that didn't used to(Mickey Rourke is pretty manly last i checked, and of course cavemen didn't, and they're a lot manlier than anyone waxing their legs today). The logic just doesn't follow. Why do men cut their hair short? Because of the circular argument that says they cut their hair short because men cut their hair short. That's all anyone who supports this view can come up with. Dude you have to be pretty badass to pull off having long hair. Or just be a metal fan/ musician. Otherwise, you cut your hair short. I think you're just going to have to accept general consensus opinion, long nails is pretty feminine. Also I reckon the vast majority of women prefer short hair. (No source but meh) You clearly have no grasp over the finer aspects of debate. He's saying that you're using circular logic to state that stuff isn't appropriate. You counter with... more circular logic. Stop doing that. Can you think of actual reasons? Actual, provable reasons?
I don't see how I counter with circular logic. I'm pretty sure I countered with 'I think you're just going to have to accept general consensus opinion'. That's not circular logic the last time I checked.
PS I'm only talking about western society. I have been told that Asian women or at least Japanese women go more for androgynous looks so meh. Asians probably have different rules.
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I don't really care if people have long fingernails or not. Personally, I had long fingernails for a bit over a year, and they were very useful for working with small things (resistors, small connectors, screws, etc). It was rather like having tweezers built into my hand, which was nice. I went back to cutting my fingernails short for practical reasons. One of the major practical problems i experienced was that I would occasionally cut people by accident while playing sports (clenching your fist isn't really a problem - a healthy nail will flex quite a bit in that situation). Breaking nails is also, believe it or not, really annoying (especially when you do it in a shop full of dudes).
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wow imho long fingernails on guys looks just creepy, especially when their that carefully maintained looking. plus they're just in the way when you're doing manly work.
earrings, I don't care, but wouldn't want one.
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On June 01 2011 03:15 Lennon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 03:10 Roe wrote:On June 01 2011 03:00 Facedriller wrote:On June 01 2011 02:53 Roe wrote:On June 01 2011 02:49 Facedriller wrote:On June 01 2011 02:39 Roe wrote:On June 01 2011 02:34 Facedriller wrote:
Alright, what the fuck.
Have all men turned gay?
Men should cut their fingernails short, OP.
Earrings doesnt concern me, just dont overdo it. why's that? do you get manicures as well? or do you just do a minor trim? how can growing out something be non-masculine? is sabertoothe(or avalanche or w/e his name is) feminine? do men have to wax their legs now to not be gay? I thought that was the female thing to do...What about all those cavemen, are they really woman-like since they have long nails and hair all over the place? You obviously didnt get the point. I dont get manicures, that's for women. I also dont shave my legs, that's for women. Women like long fingernails, it's feminine, i cut mine short, that's masculine. As for the cavemen thing, i'd think that their hygiene isnt the best, i take care of my hygiene. There is no point in your argument. Women are always talking about hygiene anyways. They're so finicky about clean things, so you shouldn't practice hygiene since it's what women do...You obviously didn't get my point. It's dumb placing arbitrary objectives for how to be masculine when they're illogical and inconsistent with each other. Do you ever question your beliefs or do you just go with what everyone else tells you? You have no reasons for your beliefs. There's a point, actually. What's that talk about inconsistent to each other? it's highly consistent when you're talking about males and what they do regarding what's masculine and what's not, look at the polls. Illogical? oh please. That's fine then if you don't want to look at your own points. You said you don't shave your legs, but why then do you cut your hair and shave your beard? What's the difference? If you reply with another tautology, well, that's not an argument. We do these things because the majority of women prefer them e.g. most women prefer men with short hair, clean shaven/no facial hair, short nails, no earrings. It's to attract women.
Do you consider beards to be feminine? Do you think most men consider beards to be feminine? Do you think that characters with beards are portrayed as unmanly? Unsightly, sure. Ugly, sure. Brash? Boisterous? Unattractive? Single? Sure. Unmanly? Nope. If masculinity is just about attracting females, well, we'd think leonardo dicaprio and the backstreet boys are the manliest men that ever manned on the planet of men.
We cut our nails, our hair, beards and don't get piercings because that's what's demanded of us in our society. It's not about attracting women. A masculine image is dictated by society as a whole, not one aspect.
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keep fingernails short.. and don't have a pierced ear don't really care if other people do it either. However, long nails on guys is just nasty..
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On June 01 2011 03:23 goiflin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 03:15 Lennon wrote:On June 01 2011 03:10 Roe wrote:On June 01 2011 03:00 Facedriller wrote:On June 01 2011 02:53 Roe wrote:On June 01 2011 02:49 Facedriller wrote:On June 01 2011 02:39 Roe wrote:On June 01 2011 02:34 Facedriller wrote:
Alright, what the fuck.
Have all men turned gay?
Men should cut their fingernails short, OP.
Earrings doesnt concern me, just dont overdo it. why's that? do you get manicures as well? or do you just do a minor trim? how can growing out something be non-masculine? is sabertoothe(or avalanche or w/e his name is) feminine? do men have to wax their legs now to not be gay? I thought that was the female thing to do...What about all those cavemen, are they really woman-like since they have long nails and hair all over the place? You obviously didnt get the point. I dont get manicures, that's for women. I also dont shave my legs, that's for women. Women like long fingernails, it's feminine, i cut mine short, that's masculine. As for the cavemen thing, i'd think that their hygiene isnt the best, i take care of my hygiene. There is no point in your argument. Women are always talking about hygiene anyways. They're so finicky about clean things, so you shouldn't practice hygiene since it's what women do...You obviously didn't get my point. It's dumb placing arbitrary objectives for how to be masculine when they're illogical and inconsistent with each other. Do you ever question your beliefs or do you just go with what everyone else tells you? You have no reasons for your beliefs. There's a point, actually. What's that talk about inconsistent to each other? it's highly consistent when you're talking about males and what they do regarding what's masculine and what's not, look at the polls. Illogical? oh please. That's fine then if you don't want to look at your own points. You said you don't shave your legs, but why then do you cut your hair and shave your beard? What's the difference? If you reply with another tautology, well, that's not an argument. We do these things because the majority of women prefer them e.g. most women prefer men with short hair, clean shaven/no facial hair, short nails, no earrings. It's to attract women. Do you consider beards to be feminine? Do you think most men consider beards to be feminine? Do you think that characters with beards are portrayed as unmanly? Unsightly, sure. Ugly, sure. Brash? Boisterous? Unattractive? Single? Sure. Unmanly? Nope. If masculinity is just about attracting females, well, we'd think leonardo dicaprio and the backstreet boys are the manliest men that ever manned on the planet of men. We cut our nails, our hair, beards and don't get piercings because that's what's demanded of us in our society. It's not about attracting women. A masculine image is dictated by society as a whole, not one aspect.
This man knows what's up.
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On June 01 2011 02:24 noname_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 02:07 Soleron wrote:
Long fingernails are useful. It's not a fashion thing and I don't care what others think. For what? The world`s men really loosing all the manliness what left!
For when having coke on just your long pinky nail isn't enough and you want 10 hits with out reloading. What a party that is going to be!
Short nails / no earrings, they don't bother me, just don't want them
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On June 01 2011 02:24 noname_ wrote:
The world`s men really loosing all the manliness what left!
A step towards a better world I'd say.
Nevertheless, I used to have somewhat longer fingernails for guitar practice - found them to be generally rather uncomfortable - got in the way of typing + all the dirt that gets stuck to them.
Also, man or woman - long fingernails don't really make anyone look more attractive imho.
Earrings and other kind of piercings - perfectly fine. Some guys look really cool with them, some don't. Everyone should figure out their own style.
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long fingernails... why would anyone even want those?
for earrings i don't care i wear earrings occasionally but not much lately. I usually wear small ones made out of steel. Wearing one of those big ass zircon rocks that cost like $20 on your left ear makes you a huge douche in my eyes atleast.
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short nails and no jewelery is considered manly because working men can't maintain long fingernails and don't have time for jewelery, and a working man is attractive in the 19 century a working man could get your a place to live and put food on the table. The ideas of jewelery and long fingernails is from the idea of a kept woman sort of like how being pale was considered attractive at times in history because that meant you didn't work as a woman that you were pampered etc. The ideas of western society till industrialization was an attractive woman could sow and work the home with the kids while the man works the fields that is our basis, and their basis was the same before that women have long been considered fragile in societies so the idea of man works the fields while woman kept the home is long standing.
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If guys are honestly wearing their nails that long like in the op then this world is becoming scarily effeminized. I don't think I can add much more than that.
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nails are not a big deal on mens, because it's related to something if you have them long, like you are an acoutic guitar player for example...
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Long nails on one hand is common among guitarrists. Other than that, i can't see a reason for them.
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im reading alot of ignorance in these posts. Long Nails + Earings = Gay??? How so tards?
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On June 01 2011 03:18 Zealotdriver wrote:Totally agree. Also, long fingernails and hair are gross as fuck; they accumulate filth. Long hair is especially bad on an intimate partner because they usually don't wash it every day and it smells bad and contaminates the bed. I used to have a girlfriend with long hair, she was a smoker and her hair always smelled like cigarette smoke. Fucking nasty.
Get a girlfriend with long hair that doesn't smoke. 
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Well I have long nails on my right hand and shorter ones but still longer than most guys on my left, this is because i like long nails and file them in to points.... it looks cool and comes in handy from time to time. The reason they are shorter on one hand than the other is because im a guitarist, you need to have long nails on your picking hand if you are like me and play finger style alot.
I'm also a former goth, I still wear some facepaint and paint my nails black, red and white..... i think it looks cool and different, thats all that matters to me. I've never once had a girl think it was feminine or made me less manly or attractive, at least I've never met a girl whom I would want to be friends with who thought that way.
The reason why they don't think its feminine? Because i'm comfortable with myself, I do what makes me happy, I dont conform to some outdated notion of what is manly. I present myself in a way that says "this is me, like me or hate me, its all the same to me" and as for other guys.... well I'm over 6 feet tall and have 20 years of martial arts experience..... so if they have a problem then I'm prepared to show them appearances don't mean shit.
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I hate it to have short fingernails, always have a bit longer than is usual for dudes. If I have to open something then my nails are very useful I don't think it has anything to do with your 'manliness', but I do think that most guys with earrings are doing it to show off, not because they think it's pretty.
Don't like piercings as a whole though, not on men and not on women.
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