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Okay, now the US government shut down is crossing the line! :D
Stores will still offer plenty of suds. But the shutdown has closed an obscure agency that quietly approves new breweries, recipes and labels, which could create huge delays throughout the rapidly growing craft industry, whose customers expect a constant supply of inventive and seasonal beers.
Mike Brenner is trying to open a craft brewery in Milwaukee by December. His application to include a tasting room is now on hold, as are his plans to file paperwork for four labels over the next few weeks. He expects to lose about $8,000 for every month his opening is delayed.
"My dream, this is six years in the making, is to open this brewery," Brenner said. "I've been working so hard, and I find all these great investors. And now I can't get started because people are fighting over this or that in Washington. ... This is something people don't mess around with. Even in a bad economy, people drink beer."
The Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau, or TTB, is a little-known arm of the Treasury Department. The agency will continue to process taxes from existing permit holders, but applications for anything new are in limbo.
The closing isn't expected to have much effect on industry giants such as MillerCoors or Anheuser-Busch. They can continue to produce existing products as usual. But the shutdown poses a huge problem for craft brewers, who build their businesses by producing quirky, offbeat flavors and introducing new seasonal beers, sometimes as often as every quarter.
Craft brewers around the country say TTB was taking as long as 75 days to approve applications before the shutdown. Now they're bracing for even longer waits. And tempers are flaring.
Lagunitas Chief Operating Officer Todd Stevenson called the TTB shutdown a "headache." He said the company was planning to submit an application to package its autumn seasonal Hairy Eyeball in 22-ounce bottles instead of 12-ounce bottles but can't move forward.
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Bosnia-Herzegovina72 Posts
This is something people don't mess around with. Even in a bad economy, people drink beer. That line really cracked me up!. :D Beer enthusiasts of USA, you have my sincere condolences!
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Germany beer: Aecht Schlenkerla Rauchbier Urbock Belgian beer: leffe, Karmeliet American beer: rogue amber ale English beer: spitfire and brewdog hardcore(maybe it's Scottish) chinese beer: babyipa (I think no one tasted it in this forum )
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On September 28 2013 06:31 Paraietta wrote:
Here's some of the ones from my last Beerhawk order. Punk IPA and rochefort 10 are especially wonderful.
(edit whoa gigantic image oops) punk is great ,but in brewdog ,my favorite is hardcore
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Haven't been on TL for ages, first thread back is this. Lately it's gotten hot too fast (Temps already reaching 38 degrees Celsius) and its only the start of spring so I'm dreading summer. If I drink it's usually scotch but lately this craving for refreshment has hit me and left me with Miller Chill beer with a twist of lime. Great stuff for the hot climate. Then again most Aussies that live in Queensland will accept any cold beer on a hot day.
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Being from the great beer city of San Diego, it's safe to say I'm a pretty big beer fan. I will never drink beer for the sake of drinking beer. It's something I enjoy, or I won't bother. Any really good ale, especially IPAs and pale ales, are my go-to drink. I'm not really a lager guy, even though I've had some pretty decent German stuff over the past year and a half.
If I had to go with my 3 favorite breweries, they'd probably be Stone, Ballast Point, and Green Flash. Ballast Point's Sculpin IPA is a real treat . My favorite pale ale is Sierra Nevada's. I really like most of Widmer Brothers' beer too (funnily enough, I spent a summer in Portland, the other biggest beer city in the US).
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I'm going to The Great American Beer Festival in Denver, Colorado.
What brewers should I check out from out of state?
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United States7488 Posts
On October 12 2013 02:34 SafeWord wrote: I'm going to The Great American Beer Festival in Denver, Colorado.
What brewers should I check out from out of state? Great Divide and Oskar Blues are two of my favorite breweries in the Denver area (and Oskar blues' facility is pretty sweet too).
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On October 12 2013 02:34 SafeWord wrote: I'm going to The Great American Beer Festival in Denver, Colorado.
What brewers should I check out from out of state? Are you an experienced beer drinker or would you characterize your knowledge as limited? If you're looking for great breweries that have come to be somewhat known quantities, I would check out:
21st Amendment Anderson Valley Ballast Point Bear Republic Dogfish Head Firestone Walker Green Flash Sixpoint Stone
I usually consider myself pretty knowledgeable about beer, though, and I've never heard of half these breweries. The fun thing about beer festivals is discovering beer you'll never really get to try anywhere else.
EDIT: I took out of state to mean not from CO, so I have no CO breweries on the list
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On October 12 2013 03:11 upperbound wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 02:34 SafeWord wrote: I'm going to The Great American Beer Festival in Denver, Colorado.
What brewers should I check out from out of state? Are you an experienced beer drinker or would you characterize your knowledge as limited? If you're looking for great breweries that have come to be somewhat known quantities, I would check out: 21st Amendment Anderson Valley Ballast Point Bear Republic Dogfish Head Firestone Walker Green Flash Sixpoint Stone I usually consider myself pretty knowledgeable about beer, though, and I've never heard of half these breweries. The fun thing about beer festivals is discovering beer you'll never really get to try anywhere else. EDIT: I took out of state to mean not from CO, so I have no CO breweries on the list
My knowledge is quite limited, I have a friend who got me into beer because he brews his own beer. I don't like IPAs and that is about it. My favorite are; Nitro milk stout, tommyknocker maple brown, and I love wheat beer. And yes that meant no CO brewers, I live in CO so no point.
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On October 12 2013 03:11 upperbound wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 02:34 SafeWord wrote: I'm going to The Great American Beer Festival in Denver, Colorado.
What brewers should I check out from out of state? Are you an experienced beer drinker or would you characterize your knowledge as limited? If you're looking for great breweries that have come to be somewhat known quantities, I would check out: 21st Amendment Anderson Valley Ballast Point Bear Republic Dogfish Head Firestone Walker Green Flash Sixpoint Stone I usually consider myself pretty knowledgeable about beer, though, and I've never heard of half these breweries. The fun thing about beer festivals is discovering beer you'll never really get to try anywhere else. EDIT: I took out of state to mean not from CO, so I have no CO breweries on the list I've definitely been enjoying Anderson Valley (they stock it consistently at the trader joes by me), dogfish head, and firestone. I will have to try the rest of the beers on this list. I've had stone, and its pretty readily available anywhere I've looked in socal.
I love IPA's... what a great thread this is.
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United States7488 Posts
On October 12 2013 06:01 SafeWord wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 03:11 upperbound wrote:On October 12 2013 02:34 SafeWord wrote: I'm going to The Great American Beer Festival in Denver, Colorado.
What brewers should I check out from out of state? Are you an experienced beer drinker or would you characterize your knowledge as limited? If you're looking for great breweries that have come to be somewhat known quantities, I would check out: 21st Amendment Anderson Valley Ballast Point Bear Republic Dogfish Head Firestone Walker Green Flash Sixpoint Stone I usually consider myself pretty knowledgeable about beer, though, and I've never heard of half these breweries. The fun thing about beer festivals is discovering beer you'll never really get to try anywhere else. EDIT: I took out of state to mean not from CO, so I have no CO breweries on the list My knowledge is quite limited, I have a friend who got me into beer because he brews his own beer. I don't like IPAs and that is about it. My favorite are; Nitro milk stout, tommyknocker maple brown, and I love wheat beer. And yes that meant no CO brewers, I live in CO so no point. I clearly misread your question... that list is pretty good. I would add AleSmith, Deschutes, Gigantic, Hangar 24, Russian River and The Bruery to the list as Breweries to give a look. I could easily recommend more, but these should be more than enough.
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Packing up to move last weekend, found an unopened bottle of 2009 Utopia I got as a gift... choices choices.
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Do you all know if there is a kind of beer that is not bitter? I don't like how beer often tastes bitter/sour.
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2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
I don't like beer that's too bitter as well. For a light drink I recommend
![[image loading]](http://www.totalbeveragesolution.com/images/labels/photos/bluepaw.jpg)
You can always try Raspberry Shocktops too. They're quite delicious lol.
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On November 07 2013 06:54 Souma wrote:I don't like beer that's too bitter as well. For a light drink I recommend ![[image loading]](http://www.totalbeveragesolution.com/images/labels/photos/bluepaw.jpg) You can always try Raspberry Shocktops too. They're quite delicious lol. I had a blueberry wheat beer this weekend. It was definitely interesting. It smells damn delicious, but when the blueberry taste ends on your tongue it just tasted like carbonated water 
But I don't much care for lighter beers, so it was probably just my IPA loving bias.
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On November 07 2013 06:29 white_horse wrote: Do you all know if there is a kind of beer that is not bitter? I don't like how beer often tastes bitter/sour.
One of the easy to start with special beers is La Chouffe. I personally think it's one of the more complete beers. Not too sweet, but definitely not bitter. It is 8% though, so if you drink a few of them too fast you will feel the alcohol 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Chouffe
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On November 07 2013 06:29 white_horse wrote: Do you all know if there is a kind of beer that is not bitter? I don't like how beer often tastes bitter/sour.
Are you looking for a sweeter finish? Traveler makes a whole range of Shandy ales. My favorite is the Jack-O pumpkin shandy. Its too sweet for me to drink as a session beer but its great for a bottle or two when I'm in the mood for something other than Belgians.
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First time seeing rouge dead guy ale or w/e its called. Got excited until I saw it was $15.99 a six pack. Wtf?
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On November 18 2013 03:13 heliusx wrote: First time seeing rouge dead guy ale or w/e its called. Got excited until I saw it was $15.99 a six pack. Wtf?
for some reason that beer is always horribly overpriced. you could get it in portland fine but when I moved to seattle it got way more expensive. they have some shitty distribution or something, idk
i mean it's a fine beer and all but it's not THAT good
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