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SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
April 14 2011 02:17 GMT
#141
Quebec apologizes for Duceppe's terrible, terrible english.

I mean it. I cringed -_-
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Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
April 14 2011 02:39 GMT
#142
Does anyone know the exact venue this took place in? I'm sorry if I missed it or something.
Do they rent out a place or does the government already own it?

I would have watched the entire debate, but I have a 20 page essay due in a couple days. Sorry!

People on Facebook are talking about voting. One status in particular bothered me:
"Dear everyone else who goes to VIU and bitched endlessly about the strike: If, in the upcoming election, you a) don't vote b) vote conservative, I will cut you. That is all."

Is there something super-wrong with the Conservatives that I've been missing? Personally, I don't think they're doing anything wrong, so why should we change it (except to obtain a majority for some party)?


We have a terrible voting turnout-rate in my cit(ies), especially in the spring. It's like we're not hyped on politics until mid-summer.

I don't like the amount of bickering (for lack of a better word) and "he's not very good"-style speeches I've seen and heard about that these candidates have made. Is it no longer possible to have a good debate without sinking to that sort of level?

However, this guy:
On April 13 2011 15:27 SolidMotion wrote:
To be honest... The party who gets my vote is the one that's going to do something about internet fees and gouging...

www.openmedia.ca

So far it's looking better but man... our internet sucks...


... pointed out what I care about most. I e-mailed all the representatives in government from my area and only one replied to me. It made me feel like he actually cared. It wasn't a completely impersonal e-mail he sent me either. It does make me more inclined to vote Conservative, though.

The thing is, I'm not a fan of the Liberal party (though that might just be more in relation to the BCLiberals, especially after Gordon Campbell's DUI and the new leader recently). I'm not a big fan of the NDP either. If you're going to call my house, I'd like to speak to a person, not a recording. I don't care that you're Jack Layton, I would prefer person-to-person contact. Maybe then I won't hang up right away (I dislike talking to recordings).
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Glaven
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada554 Posts
April 14 2011 03:00 GMT
#143
http://www.shitharperdid.ca/

^ all you need to know.
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MoneyHypeMike
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada305 Posts
April 14 2011 03:14 GMT
#144
Going to vote for NDP, but conservative are going to win minority again...
Nice way to waste money, seems like we are too rich !
jjun212
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada2208 Posts
April 14 2011 03:19 GMT
#145
Our country is fail!!!!!

I just got my election card in the mail.
My real name is Jacky and I'm a dude.
What does my card say!?!?

[image loading]

Who the fuck is Jacqueline =\...

Flik
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada256 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 03:25:34
April 14 2011 03:23 GMT
#146
Wow I totally missed it. Hopefully I didnt miss anything too important, Im sure it was a horrible debate to watch. Im not sure anyone enjoys listening to any of our parties leaders at the moment.
ThePimpImp
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada51 Posts
April 14 2011 03:32 GMT
#147
I can only assume that the debate was scheduled by the conservatives to hide harper. First night of the NHL playoffs, no way this will be seen, hope they have good vods

Lanaia - BC liberals and national liberals are quite a bit different, Don't let gordon campbell taint your view of the national party.

As for people's hate for the conservative and harper, it has to do with their policies basically being very pro alberta/oil/rich and very anti economic or social responsibility. As a non rich non albertan who doesn't pay for the $1.30/L gasoline, I'm not voting for harpers lackeys. I don't think the other parties are much better, but they should get a try.

I'm actually seriously considering whatever candidate supports internet freedom , I think there are candidates up on open medias website, but anybody who votes down ubb or fights our higher than everywhere internet costs, I'll probably vote for them.
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
April 14 2011 03:47 GMT
#148
Most of my friends want to vote NDP. I'm living in ontario, about an hour and a half north of toronto, and it sounds like quite a few of the young people here are sick of the liberals and the conservatives and don't consider the green party viable. I voted liberal last time, trying to get harper out of there, but that failed, so I figured why not vote NDP, I'd like to see what they could do.

I still feel like my vote isn't worth dick all but I'd like to hope somehow it'll make a difference :/
Krytha
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada140 Posts
April 14 2011 03:53 GMT
#149
On April 14 2011 12:00 Glaven wrote:
http://www.shitharperdid.ca/

^ all you need to know.


Exactly. I'm looking at all these replies saying no one knows what is wrong with our current conservatives. Does no one follow the news? The conservatives have been completely undemocratic and secretive and just THROWING money around like they were swimming in a pool of it like Scrooge McDuck. Somebody had a link to statscan about the current state of our economy and it shows that the total amount of jobs has decreased, there were losses in health jobs and an increase in food service jobs. Woowoo Stephen Harpers economy will let you get a job at Mcdonalds! Bet you can put away 10k in 5 years into that nice tax free savings account that Harper promised with a job like that. And now the Bank of Canada is saying that their expectations for economic growth have decreased... again... Freaking bang up job right there.

As far as internet rights go, Im going to let the courts settle that one for now, I dont think any one party has a political platform really geared towards that stuff.
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 03:58:26
April 14 2011 03:57 GMT
#150
On April 14 2011 11:17 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:
Quebec apologizes for Duceppe's terrible, terrible english.

I mean it. I cringed -_-

I tuned into the link in the OP and it seems the French debate is on right now? These three clowns have the worst pronunciations I've ever heard and half the time I can't understand their terrible points.

Edit: Oh, this was broadcasted earlier, obviously. Layton's not god awful.
groms
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1017 Posts
April 14 2011 04:00 GMT
#151
On April 14 2011 12:57 Durak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 11:17 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:
Quebec apologizes for Duceppe's terrible, terrible english.

I mean it. I cringed -_-

I tuned into the link in the OP and it seems the French debate is on right now? These three clowns have the worst pronunciations I've ever heard and half the time I can't understand their terrible points.

I know WTF. I seriously can't believe my buddies were telling me Ignatieff has good french. Those three clowns look semi-retarded when they attempt to speak in french.

In order of skill:
1. Duceppe (obv)
2. Layton(born in quebec - hasn't practiced recently but still has a decent french accent)
3. Ignatieff (pretty decent but he keeps repeating same phrases over and over - can't tell if it's due to his limited vocabulary although judging by his english debate it may be intentional...)
4. Harper (pretty poor but I guess he learned later on in life)
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puttputt
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada240 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 04:05:52
April 14 2011 04:04 GMT
#152
The english debate summed up in 4 minutes.

from saskatchewan? saskgamers.com
Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
April 14 2011 04:12 GMT
#153
no offense but who gives a shit if their French is bad. It's not even like French is all that important. When we negotiate on all the things that matter, specifically with the US, we're not speaking French...

This second debate is just to make our wonderful Quebec neighbours happy, despite them having a representative whose primary goal is to separate from Canada or take as much from us if the former can't be achieved.
IreScath
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada521 Posts
April 14 2011 04:16 GMT
#154
On April 14 2011 12:32 ThePimpImp wrote:

As for people's hate for the conservative and harper, it has to do with their policies basically being very pro alberta/oil/rich and very anti economic or social responsibility. As a non rich non albertan who doesn't pay for the $1.30/L gasoline, I'm not voting for harpers lackeys. I don't think the other parties are much better, but they should get a try.

I'm actually seriously considering whatever candidate supports internet freedom , I think there are candidates up on open medias website, but anybody who votes down ubb or fights our higher than everywhere internet costs, I'll probably vote for them.


To defend Harper and the conservatives...

Canada has actually done the best in the recovery during and after this recession. We are back to pre-recession unemployment, the TSX is above pre-recession levels, and the Canadian dollar is now just under 4 cents above the American dollar... The canadian economy is doing great relative to the rest of the major nations.

Everyone knows nothing in Canada caused or could have prevented the recession... Canada just relies too much on the EU and US markets. Yet Canada is coming out on top (relatively). Which is why when Harper said that in the debate, no one disagreed, and instead changed the subject. I dont mind a little secrecy is taxes are lower, and I can keep my job.

However, I too will probably vote based on the internet gouging debate. lol
IreScath
Krytha
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada140 Posts
April 14 2011 04:39 GMT
#155
On April 14 2011 13:16 B00ts wrote:
To defend Harper and the conservatives...

Canada has actually done the best in the recovery during and after this recession. We are back to pre-recession unemployment, the TSX is above pre-recession levels, and the Canadian dollar is now just under 4 cents above the American dollar... The canadian economy is doing great relative to the rest of the major nations.

Everyone knows nothing in Canada caused or could have prevented the recession... Canada just relies too much on the EU and US markets. Yet Canada is coming out on top (relatively). Which is why when Harper said that in the debate, no one disagreed, and instead changed the subject. I dont mind a little secrecy is taxes are lower, and I can keep my job.

However, I too will probably vote based on the internet gouging debate. lol


Again, Harper did not implement the banking regulations that prevented the housing market from bottoming out like the states did, that was during the Liberals run with Paul Martin. http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/jan/13/paul-martin-budget-deficit-trailblazer
So basically he is just taking credit for someone else's policies as he would've permitted deregulation of the banks because that is the "big-business friendly" way that conservatives like to do things. As for fiscal responsibility, Harper has now left Canada with the biggest deficit in its history. The Canadian dollar being higher than the US dollar is terrible because this makes it more expensive for US people to buy our stuff and we WANT them to buy our stuff because 75% of our exports head down south, so a higher canadian dollar actually hurts our economy, it's not like spending a little less on your trip to Florida is good for canada as a whole. Additionally, check the unemployment numbers that some guy posted - the jobs that were lost were health care jobs and the jobs that were gained were in food services. Not a good thing.
IreScath
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada521 Posts
April 14 2011 04:48 GMT
#156
On April 14 2011 13:39 Krytha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 13:16 B00ts wrote:
To defend Harper and the conservatives...

Canada has actually done the best in the recovery during and after this recession. We are back to pre-recession unemployment, the TSX is above pre-recession levels, and the Canadian dollar is now just under 4 cents above the American dollar... The canadian economy is doing great relative to the rest of the major nations.

Everyone knows nothing in Canada caused or could have prevented the recession... Canada just relies too much on the EU and US markets. Yet Canada is coming out on top (relatively). Which is why when Harper said that in the debate, no one disagreed, and instead changed the subject. I dont mind a little secrecy is taxes are lower, and I can keep my job.

However, I too will probably vote based on the internet gouging debate. lol


Again, Harper did not implement the banking regulations that prevented the housing market from bottoming out like the states did, that was during the Liberals run with Paul Martin. http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/jan/13/paul-martin-budget-deficit-trailblazer
So basically he is just taking credit for someone else's policies as he would've permitted deregulation of the banks because that is the "big-business friendly" way that conservatives like to do things. As for fiscal responsibility, Harper has now left Canada with the biggest deficit in its history. The Canadian dollar being higher than the US dollar is terrible because this makes it more expensive for US people to buy our stuff and we WANT them to buy our stuff because 75% of our exports head down south, so a higher canadian dollar actually hurts our economy, it's not like spending a little less on your trip to Florida is good for canada as a whole. Additionally, check the unemployment numbers that some guy posted - the jobs that were lost were health care jobs and the jobs that were gained were in food services. Not a good thing.


You can't fault Harper for policies he kept in from prior to him taking office. What would you have him do? Remove them only to throw them back up so they can be his? huh?

Also, the balancing of the budget that Paul Martin did, was needed because his own government that was in power for 12 years had gone crazy in the first term (ish).

As for the housing crash, yes Canada's HOUSING market didn't crash as hard as the US's, however Canada did, as every other major economic power, experience a recession. Canada has come out stronger than any other nation.... A fact his opponents do not disagree with.
IreScath
Cotillion37
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada94 Posts
April 14 2011 04:49 GMT
#157
On April 14 2011 09:48 Dugrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 09:43 Cotillion37 wrote:
I'm in Harper's riding. It's a bit ridiculous trying to vote for anyone else in this riding since he's going to win.

That actually doesn't make much sense. That's like saying ''everyone's jumping off a bridge. It's ridiculous trying not to jump off a bridge because everyone else is''. Unless of course, you've been convinced by his politics. In which case, go ahead and vote for him.

Also, I'd really like it if they would talk about something other than the gun registry. It's literally the same lines coming from Ignatieff and Harper on this issue as what they were saying last night...


I should have phrased that a bit differently. I have yet to vote for Harper in the election, but no matter who I vote for, Harper wins in this riding by a ludicrously large margin. I was essentially trying to say that it is impossible to make my vote count because of how many people vote for him in this riding.
Suncrusher
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada55 Posts
April 14 2011 04:54 GMT
#158
Any place where we can watch the english debate?I've been working late lately and I can't watch streams at work.
Quote?
Gnial
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada907 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 04:59:38
April 14 2011 04:56 GMT
#159
On April 14 2011 12:53 Krytha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 12:00 Glaven wrote:
http://www.shitharperdid.ca/

^ all you need to know.


Exactly. I'm looking at all these replies saying no one knows what is wrong with our current conservatives. Does no one follow the news? The conservatives have been completely undemocratic and secretive and just THROWING money around like they were swimming in a pool of it like Scrooge McDuck. Somebody had a link to statscan about the current state of our economy and it shows that the total amount of jobs has decreased, there were losses in health jobs and an increase in food service jobs. Woowoo Stephen Harpers economy will let you get a job at Mcdonalds! Bet you can put away 10k in 5 years into that nice tax free savings account that Harper promised with a job like that. And now the Bank of Canada is saying that their expectations for economic growth have decreased... again... Freaking bang up job right there.

As far as internet rights go, Im going to let the courts settle that one for now, I dont think any one party has a political platform really geared towards that stuff.


I open that link "shitharperdid.ca", and the first and only thing that shows up on the page is some one-liner that "harper doesn't know the difference between natives and Indians."

Thats such garbage. It may shock some of you, but aboriginal legal status in Canada is as "Indians". They are protected under our constitution as "Indians" and under the "Indian Act". The main front page of the site claims that Harper is ignorant of the difference between aboriginals and Indians...but if you are 1/2 informed you'd be able to figure out that whoever manages the site is just a moron.

I'm not leaning one way or the other politically - but one thing I am against is people who use this kind of trash to decide whom to vote for. Why on earth would you present a site as a source for your political position which bases its arguments on bullshit semantics?

Educate yourselves, and stop spreading filth.
1, eh? 2, eh? 3, eh?
IreScath
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada521 Posts
April 14 2011 05:06 GMT
#160
That site shitharperdid is a joke.

Epic troll tho.
IreScath
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