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On May 04 2011 01:18 SPACETIME wrote:
That's a bit of an exageration and oversimplification of party principals and platforms.[/QUOTE]
To fit into a post that makes sense, it sort of has to be. I still maintain the point though. What Conservative party principal/platform is based on common good?
Prisons are for punishment, not rehabilitation. Lowering taxes is basically a bribe for a vote. I'm not wealthy by *any* means but I'd glady pay more taxes if I knew our healthcare and human rights weren't in question. [/QUOTE]
Actually prisons are about rehabilatation and learning skills, it's just most people don't know that. That's why funding for halfway houses exist and are considered something like low security and are normally situated right next to jails. Also the won't raise taxes vote is insane. I want more youths to vote since they absolutely don't care about taxes, it won't affect them till there later years, where I think conversatives get quite a few of there votes. Heck NDP wanted to make things cheaper on neccesities so it will help people barely scrapping by and in conterweight probably end up taxing more for high income people (which again I assume is the older vote). But I must say the Liberals this election had no voice this election.
Edit: question: Is it legal to send prerecorded candidate messages to peoples houses?
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On May 04 2011 01:18 SPACETIME wrote:Show nested quote +
That's a bit of an exageration and oversimplification of party principals and platforms.
To fit into a post that makes sense, it sort of has to be. I still maintain the point though. What Conservative party principal/platform is based on common good? Prisons are for punishment, not rehabilitation. Lowering taxes is basically a bribe for a vote. I'm not wealthy by *any* means but I'd glady pay more taxes if I knew our healthcare and human rights weren't in question. *edited to fix quote!
Yes but in the mind of the Conservative, the decision to reduce government involvement is to the benefit of the society. It's a different view on taking care of others, but it's there.
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On May 04 2011 01:14 DoubleZee wrote:
Wow, the Liberals got SMASHED. Hopefully now they get their shit together and find a real leader. I would have gladly voted Lib over NDP if Layton was the leader. Conservatives and NDP are very likely going to both gravitate towards the center and snuff out the Liberals of their political space. In a way, you may get what you wish for at the next election with a left-center NDP.
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Holy fuck yes
Screw everything that I have posted in this thread if this is true. If the Conservatives fuck the telecom oligarghy in the ass that more than makes up for losing the gun registry.
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On May 04 2011 01:14 DoubleZee wrote:
Wow, the Liberals got SMASHED. Hopefully now they get their shit together and find a real leader. I would have gladly voted Lib over NDP if Layton was the leader.
I personally think Iggy is a good leader. He's educated and well spoken. His defeat speech was really good. I don't feel all the hate and criticism sent his way was waranted at all. I guess he just lacks a bit of humor/charisma which has always been important in centre/left leaders.
You faggots.
Made me lol!
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On May 04 2011 01:23 Inn0cu0s wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2011 01:14 DoubleZee wrote:
Wow, the Liberals got SMASHED. Hopefully now they get their shit together and find a real leader. I would have gladly voted Lib over NDP if Layton was the leader. Conservatives and NDP are very likely going to both gravitate towards the center and snuff out the Liberals of their political space. In a way, you may get what you wish for at the next election with a left-center NDP.
Either that or a Canadian version of Obama appears out of no where sometime in the next couple years and saves the Liberal party.
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On May 04 2011 01:19 Flaccid wrote:
Hey look, we've made it to page 36 without personally attacking each other. How Canadian of us.
faggots.
hahahah...
well, it's easy to remain civil when you don't have to deal with republicans.
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On May 04 2011 01:27 DoubleZee wrote:Either that or a Canadian version of Obama appears out of no where sometime in the next couple years and saves the Liberal party. lol Yes! I was talking about that yesterday with my friends. I said the ghost of P-E Trudeau has to come kick the Liberals in the ass to get their mojo going again.
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On May 04 2011 01:27 DoubleZee wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2011 01:23 Inn0cu0s wrote:On May 04 2011 01:14 DoubleZee wrote:
Wow, the Liberals got SMASHED. Hopefully now they get their shit together and find a real leader. I would have gladly voted Lib over NDP if Layton was the leader. Conservatives and NDP are very likely going to both gravitate towards the center and snuff out the Liberals of their political space. In a way, you may get what you wish for at the next election with a left-center NDP. Either that or a Canadian version of Obama appears out of no where sometime in the next couple years and saves the Liberal party.
Yeah I don't think that's going to happen. Are people really gonna be that excited about Justin Trudeau? Eech.
I think the Liberals are gonna have a hard time coming back up to the status they once had. They basically have no hope in Québec anymore. Too much bad history there both at the provincial and federal level. For their NB support, they only need to wait a few years for the next NB provincial election. People there change party affiliations pretty much every mandate as a protest to the government never meeting their standards. Achilles definately has a point about provincial politics greatly influencing federal results. I remember a manitoban friend of mine mentioning things were a little bit different in Manitoba where the province was governed by an almost fully orange house while Manitobans voted almost strictly blue at federal elections. It sorta makes sense if you think about it. The different levels of government do have different mandates after all and I guess it's possible for a population to think that social programs are important for education and health but not so much for immigration or pension plans.
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On May 04 2011 01:42 REM.ca wrote:Are people really gonna be that excited about Justin Trudeau?.
Atlantic Canada, Quebec, and Ontario. Here in HFX (very very liberal) people buzz about Trudeau all the time. "Oh well wait until Trudeau's back and I'll change my vote (from ndp)"
West will be completely Blue tho. McKenna stands a better chance coming out of absolutely nowhere.
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Justin Trudeau's a lame duck loser. Gerrard Kennedy is much more inspiring than him.
Not that either of them are gonna save the Liberal party from complete obsolescence, because they're obsolete.
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They're not obsolete; they just haven't seemed to care in a decade or so.
This election may inspire the party to be about something again rather than to assume they're the natural born leaders of Canada.
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On May 04 2011 01:47 bonifaceviii wrote:
Justin Trudeau's a lame duck loser. Gerrard Kennedy is much more inspiring than him.
Not that either of them are gonna save the Liberal party from complete obsolescence, because they're obsolete.
Well Kennedy is gone for sure. Lost his seat. The next Liberal leader is either currently elected (and the face of the dying party and the past it comes with) or comes from a successful Liberal background and praises himself as a "new" liberal.
His name is Frank McKenna.
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On May 04 2011 01:49 jon arbuckle wrote:
This election may inspire the party to be about something again rather than to assume they're the natural born leaders of Canada.
This.
You just blew my mind.
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On May 04 2011 01:50 Achilles wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2011 01:47 bonifaceviii wrote:
Justin Trudeau's a lame duck loser. Gerrard Kennedy is much more inspiring than him.
Not that either of them are gonna save the Liberal party from complete obsolescence, because they're obsolete. His name is Frank McKenna.
I never even thought about McKenna coming back into politics. That could be interesting. He had quite a career in NB provincial politics. Heh, in october 87 he got 57 of the 57 seats in parliament. That was pretty crazy.
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Justin Trudeau is a great constituent MP, but he's got a lot to learn about parliament.
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On May 04 2011 01:54 REM.ca wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2011 01:50 Achilles wrote:On May 04 2011 01:47 bonifaceviii wrote:
Justin Trudeau's a lame duck loser. Gerrard Kennedy is much more inspiring than him.
Not that either of them are gonna save the Liberal party from complete obsolescence, because they're obsolete. His name is Frank McKenna. I never even thought about McKenna coming back into politics. That could be interesting. He had quite a career in NB provincial politics. Heh, in october 87 he got 57 of the 57 seats in parliament. That was pretty crazy.
Yep. He got out before he could be held accountable for some of the not so great things he did (Bernard Lord fucking destroyed his interim successor) so that'll actually give him more credibility.
He wasn't bad though. I mean, I've seen worse (GRAHAM LOL!)
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you dont WANT the telecom industry to be deregulated unless you own a telecom corporation.
It will allow them to implement metered charges, and will also basically kill many small providers since Bell and Telus own almost all of the infrastructure.
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