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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9625 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 22:19:37
April 04 2011 22:17 GMT
#441
Absolutionn
Profile Joined October 2010
United States512 Posts
April 04 2011 22:18 GMT
#442
Oh I remember when I first joined teamliquid, and after reading the 10 commandments I was so terrified to post at all, but after browsing a bit you really realize whats good to contribute and what isnt.
Jinro | Idra | Qxc | Select
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
April 04 2011 22:20 GMT
#443
use common sense and you'll go far.
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
Jesushooves
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada553 Posts
April 04 2011 22:25 GMT
#444
On April 05 2011 07:03 AlexDeLarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 06:43 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On April 05 2011 06:37 AlexDeLarge wrote:
What do you think Tubby, does this kid deserve to be beat up after school or not?


I think that's an awful, unrelated analogy. And if you get excited due to some weird notion of jealousy of someone 'getting theirs' for trying to, say, do well in life (since that's what the boy in your story would be doing), then you have massive issues IMO.

It sounds like the whole "if I can't succeed I don't want him to either" mentality. You need to look at yourself objectively dude.


Well aren't you the amazing psycho-analyst. FYI i was closer growing up to the nice boy in the story than to the crazed jealous bullies. Also attended one of top 3-5 universities in my country and was a pro gamer in wc3.

The only part you got right with a slight reformulation is "I can and have succeeded but i don't want others to though, except a few select super close friends"

However, most of my life path i went through and took action within a grey moral area.

I am sickened by people who assume that the boy in my story is an example of someone doing well in life. That is not doing well in life from my perspective. That's taking the safe and high road, playing it by the book, not taking any chances. The kind of person who gets some advice when he is very young about how he should be nice and respectful towards others, learn hard in school and be a generally nice, polite person, treat women well, that sort of thing.

I find this sort of man a gutless, spineless pushover.

But enough, i digress too much, this isn't even a real palpable scenario, just hypothetical.

It's just that you, Tubby, strike me as a person that would be Lawful Good in a D&D game, minus the whole heroic aura. And this sort of character cannot achieve real success in the real world. The type of success that turns you into a millionaire, surrounded by dozens of beautiful women and the envy of all men. All it does is turn you into a disciplined rule enforcer, giving others a reason to hate you.

I find it strange that you make implications of a person's actions in reality from what you know about them on an online forum.

Your story implies that intelligent, hardworking, and well behaved people don't have success. As in, you will have more success in life if you are a douche. Sure, there are people that don't deserve to have all the money/fame that they have, and are total jerks, but that doesn't mean that being someone like that will get you there, it just means they were lucky.

I highly doubt a person with the traits you mentioned will die unhappy as a gutless spineless pushover, *Cough* Bill Gates. I know you didn't specifically use the word "Nerd", but that seems like the kind of person you are describing, and I have to say,

Nerds Rule.
Lose its good, after will be win.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
April 04 2011 22:25 GMT
#445
On April 05 2011 06:09 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 02:20 L wrote:
I get banned because a certain mod doesn't like me.

So I stopped posting in general. The end.


With 2 of your 3 bans coming from me, I'm guessing I know where this is being directed.

Anywho, you flatter yourself a bit too much if you think I don't like you. Honestly, I don't dislike you or even really put that much thought into you as a poster. I did, however, notice your uncanny ability to completely derail discussion/debate threads. That's exactly what your first ban from me was for (a mere 2 days), and only a month later, you did the SAME THING again and received a 1 week ban.

I truly don't care if you continue to post or not, even in debate threads. If you want to, fine. If you get very spirited in the process, great. However, that does not excuse you from still being respectful to other posters on this website. When you get so heated that you're throwing personal insults at other posters, can we agree it's time to take a break?

I was discussing the topic of the thread with someone who was verbally harassing me in every single post he made, and you decided I was a good target for a ban. Afterwards, even the person I was talking to noted that the ban on me was unwarranted. So the respect argument is hollow. Not only was I discussing the topic of the thread, I was discussing it with the thread starter, iirc. So the derailment argument is pretty hollow.

Hence why I don't talk in general anymore.

I honestly feel bad that you need to go on the defensive after my first post. The last page seems to be your catharsis. Don't worry bout it broseidon. There's plenty more brocean in this site that I can swim around in.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
dementus
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Singapore1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 22:26:00
April 04 2011 22:25 GMT
#446
Nope, most of it is down to simple manners and common sense.

Although it does seem that you can get away with the occasional flame or two if it was warranted and you've generally been a sensible poster.
"I couldn't stop myself from having unreal macro and sick timing senses."
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 04 2011 22:31 GMT
#447
On April 05 2011 07:03 AlexDeLarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 06:43 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On April 05 2011 06:37 AlexDeLarge wrote:
What do you think Tubby, does this kid deserve to be beat up after school or not?


I think that's an awful, unrelated analogy. And if you get excited due to some weird notion of jealousy of someone 'getting theirs' for trying to, say, do well in life (since that's what the boy in your story would be doing), then you have massive issues IMO.

It sounds like the whole "if I can't succeed I don't want him to either" mentality. You need to look at yourself objectively dude.


Well aren't you the amazing psycho-analyst. FYI i was closer growing up to the nice boy in the story than to the crazed jealous bullies. Also attended one of top 3-5 universities in my country and was a pro gamer in wc3.

The only part you got right with a slight reformulation is "I can and have succeeded but i don't want others to though, except a few select super close friends"

However, most of my life path i went through and took action within a grey moral area.

I am sickened by people who assume that the boy in my story is an example of someone doing well in life. That is not doing well in life from my perspective. That's taking the safe and high road, playing it by the book, not taking any chances. The kind of person who gets some advice when he is very young about how he should be nice and respectful towards others, learn hard in school and be a generally nice, polite person, treat women well, that sort of thing.

I find this sort of man a gutless, spineless pushover.

But enough, i digress too much, this isn't even a real palpable scenario, just hypothetical.

It's just that you, Tubby, strike me as a person that would be Lawful Good in a D&D game, minus the whole heroic aura. And this sort of character cannot achieve real success in the real world. The type of success that turns you into a millionaire, surrounded by dozens of beautiful women and the envy of all men. All it does is turn you into a disciplined rule enforcer, giving others a reason to hate you.


Funny, I know some LG types that have gone pretty far. Truett Cathy, guy who started the Chick-fil-a franchise in the US. My grandfather knew him, and the guy was sickeningly LG.

My parents are LG, and pretty comfortable, and very happy. Plenty of them are succesful and happy.

"Disciplined Rule Enforcer", to follow your own analogy, is actually closer to Lawful Neutral anyway, since that's where the moral code gets out of the way of the laws to be enforced.

Anyways, when discussing a position that involves enforcing rules, you've just handed out a compliment, although I'm sure if you were talking at the time, your tone would have been insulting. All that implies is that you don't have the personal courage to live up to the things you agree to.

Your oh so clever posting wasn't requested on this forum, and neither was mine. ET's moderation was. That means that if we break the rules we agreed to follow while using this resource, we accept ET's authority to kick our asses off this site.

I'm not big on black and white either, but given that we're discussing a mod who doesn't just Warn/PermaBan, acting as if it were otherwise is both insulting and vaguely moronic anyway.
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
April 04 2011 22:39 GMT
#448
I don't hate someone ban me, but I hate the way the give the reason, like I said DTs at 8-9 mins mark is not really rush anymore. Then someone banned me with the answer don't be stupid, it's still DTs rush. It's very disrespect, I have my own opinion, can't ban me then answer like that.
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 22:44:04
April 04 2011 22:43 GMT
#449
So far I've gotten one temp ban (2 days) and one warning for being funny (memes) but meh.. if the right moment arrives I won't hold back =D

It's just a site, you can manage with just lurking
- ಠ_ಠ - | disinfect wrote: AHAHHAHAHA 2DG FUCK ME ALREADY.
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
April 04 2011 23:26 GMT
#450
On April 05 2011 07:43 tnud wrote:
So far I've gotten one temp ban (2 days) and one warning for being funny (memes) but meh.. if the right moment arrives I won't hold back =D

It's just a site, you can manage with just lurking


Truth.

And here are some obligatory "this is not a one-word post" words!
Bytz
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States33 Posts
April 05 2011 00:42 GMT
#451
Reading the automated ban list is like walking through a morgue. Many lessons to be learned, hilarious at times, and really gives one appreciation for life (or in this case, the freedom of posting)
GG.NoRe
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1051 Posts
April 05 2011 02:44 GMT
#452
On April 05 2011 06:18 Z3kk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 06:09 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On April 05 2011 02:20 L wrote:
I get banned because a certain mod doesn't like me.

So I stopped posting in general. The end.


With 2 of your 3 bans coming from me, I'm guessing I know where this is being directed.

Anywho, you flatter yourself a bit too much if you think I don't like you. Honestly, I don't dislike you or even really put that much thought into you as a poster. I did, however, notice your uncanny ability to completely derail discussion/debate threads. That's exactly what your first ban from me was for (a mere 2 days), and only a month later, you did the SAME THING again and received a 1 week ban.

I truly don't care if you continue to post or not, even in debate threads. If you want to, fine. If you get very spirited in the process, great. However, that does not excuse you from still being respectful to other posters on this website. When you get so heated that you're throwing personal insults at other posters, can we agree it's time to take a break?


Sort of offtopic, but I read "uncanny ability to completely derail ..." and I couldn't help but recall my feeling that I have an uncanny ability to complete bring threads to a standstill~!

Seriously, maybe I'm just being a bit self-centered, but I've noticed that after I post, the entire thread seems to come to a complete standstill, or maybe one/two trailing posts follow mine...whether the thread has several thousand views or is just starting, more often than not I seem to bring the thread to a total halt...

Yeah, probably self-flattery, or maybe impatience....


Wow! Really WOW! How full of himself? You'd think someone with 1000+ posts would know better than this. This is GARBAGE and debaucery at its purest stinkiest form. Im offended that someone comes posting off topic to glorify his idiocy!

ON TOPIC: The rule is really simple. Of course expect human factors every now and then, but as long as you keep it civil and respectful, there is no need to fear anything.
DONGJWA!
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
April 05 2011 03:18 GMT
#453
7 years? obviously you've been a good boy!
XK ßubonic
xBillehx
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1289 Posts
April 05 2011 09:36 GMT
#454
I actually had a dream last night about a warning I got on TL for a 2 word post. Being the first mark on my TL account's beautiful innocence it stressed me out and I kept "waking up" in the dream realizing that it wasn't a dream. Woke up for reals this morning and the first thing I loaded up was TL to check my post history. >__>;

Still clean! :D
Taengoo ♥
SpeaKEaSY
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1070 Posts
April 05 2011 10:01 GMT
#455
I've lurked for years cause I figured I'd be banned within 5 minutes cause of how I am.

Having survived much longer than I expected, it turns out trolling is OK here; only "generic" trolling is against the rules (seriously, I just checked out the community guidelines and that's what it says). I suspect as long as you keep it high quality the mods will leave you alone.
Aim for perfection, settle for mediocrity - KawaiiRice 2014
GiftPflanZe
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Germany623 Posts
April 05 2011 10:07 GMT
#456
Not afraid of banning at all,I think the TL mods do a great job,however I arrived a warning once,but it was my own fault
...
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
April 05 2011 10:10 GMT
#457

TL TEN COMMANDMENTS - TL;DR
Use your brain.
Don't be an asshole.
Try to make quality posts.


The ten commandments may seem scary, but in reality it's pretty simple.
Common sense goes far here.
-Exalt-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States972 Posts
April 05 2011 10:16 GMT
#458
On April 02 2011 01:04 KOFgokuon wrote:
I haven't even gotten a warning in 7 years, it's not that hard to not get in trouble, so no, I have no fear at all


Would be hilarious if a mod gave this guy a humor-warning. Super ironic!
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6173 Posts
April 05 2011 10:19 GMT
#459
its pretty easy to stay ban free.

in all my time here, I got 1 ban and I did deserved because of a shitty post.

You just have to re-read your post and ask you:" Is this post really useful?"
n_n
Silmakuoppaanikinko
Profile Joined November 2010
799 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 18:52:05
April 05 2011 18:50 GMT
#460
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32696&currentpage=632#12659

Another grand one, seriously, it was a poster in a thread who put forth some actual arguments and actually tried to debate the matter, comes with a personal anecdote as a casus, and gets banned for it, if he had just made it a hypothetical situation but denied it ever took place no one would ban him.

Again, it's your forum, you can do whatever you want, but banning people for providing stories in which they were dicks to serve as arguments in threads isn't exactly going to foster an intellectual or academic debate. Neither is banning 'no-names' who have some criticism on 'respected members of the community'.

Edit: And I'm still replying to the point of being asked to cite bans of which I think they are outrageous. Especially in this case the crown being the immensely intellectual and well-argued "reason" for the ban given.
Workers and town centres are the ultimate counter to turtles.
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