EPTFear of Banning - Page 25
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dekuschrub
United States2069 Posts
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Asparagus
United States269 Posts
Yet people are being banned for saying "boo idra sucks" in a fan page. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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AnxiousHippo
Australia1451 Posts
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Lokian
United States699 Posts
I remembered another higher up talking to some moderators telling them good job and 85% of their moderation was good. (It was after the MC vs July finals) But what about the left-over? I don't know how moderators are managed but its seems very laxed. This tells me TL don't really care about the few users and its moderation is losing quality due to high user-base. All in all, there isn't really much that can be done, since its all volunteer work so less focus is on moderation unless it gets to that point where people are starting to revolt (this is what makes this thread a little interesting). As SC2 and more people sign up on teamliquid, I don't think the moderaters can keep up. I can only imagine a comparison between battlenet forums and other official forums where rules are more laxed and only eye-catching posts will get people banned instead of dumb little fun posts here and there. | ||
KwarK
United States42960 Posts
On April 06 2011 03:53 SonuvBob wrote: The unwritten 11th commandment: No rapists. An update on this story from the rapist himself. From: AlexDeLarge [ 218 posts | Profile | Buddy | User Info | Report ] Subject: Alright buddy Date: 4/7/11 07:16 You better pray i don't find where you live. Because i do have the money and resources to easily fly to the UK, and you just turned this shit very personal with your ignorance and stupidity. As i said, will ask around to see who this cocksucker Kwark is and where he resides, you better pray i don't find you, because i will put you in the hospital, and that's your best case scenario. From this I can conclude that if you're a rapist you're probably also an unpleasant person and therefore should be banned anyway. | ||
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aidnai
United States1159 Posts
1) nonchalantly retells a story about 'fucking the shit out of' a girl that he describes as drunk to point of being unresponsive, gets banned. 2) posts in the same thread within a day using a two year old alt account acting all self righteous about his rights, gets banned. Also gives a shout out to silmkikkaniuppak (whatever his name was, he was banned for trolling) who 'stood up for' him in the thread. lol. 3) threatens physical violence towards the mods. I'm now convinced this guy absolutely is a creep with very messed up priorities and unsafe moral boundaries. | ||
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RudrA
Canada67 Posts
On April 06 2011 13:19 Asparagus wrote: There's a thread about playing starcraft2 stoned (hint- drug fucking usage you idiots) that was first page and not locked/deleted over the course of 3+ days so far. Yet people are being banned for saying "boo idra sucks" in a fan page. User was temp banned for this post. +1 On April 07 2011 08:18 KwarK wrote: An update on this story from the rapist himself. From: AlexDeLarge [ 218 posts | Profile | Buddy | User Info | Report ] Subject: Alright buddy Date: 4/7/11 07:16 You better pray i don't find where you live. Because i do have the money and resources to easily fly to the UK, and you just turned this shit very personal with your ignorance and stupidity. As i said, will ask around to see who this cocksucker Kwark is and where he resides, you better pray i don't find you, because i will put you in the hospital, and that's your best case scenario. From this I can conclude that if you're a rapist you're probably also an unpleasant person and therefore should be banned anyway. Good job for banning him for the threat. However banninng someone for being an unpleasent person? Really? Can you honestly conclude that from 1 post? What about the 13yr old girls who go online and have "slutty mcslut" as their name. Do we allow ppl to rape them because they are sluts? On April 07 2011 08:29 aidnai wrote: Wow, this deuchebag 1) nonchalantly retells a story about 'fucking the shit out of' a girl that he describes as drunk to point of being unresponsive, gets banned. 2) posts in the same thread within a day using a two year old alt account acting all self righteous about his rights, gets banned. Also gives a shout out to silmkikkaniuppak (whatever his name was, he was banned for trolling) who 'stood up for' him in the thread. lol. 3) threatens physical violence towards the mods. I'm now convinced this guy absolutely is a creep with very messed up priorities and unsafe moral boundaries. You can determine that from a few posts? | ||
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adso
718 Posts
i'm only on page 6 and already this is a fun read... you gauge the comments posted in reference to the icons... it's quite fun  edit: My selec: + Show Spoiler + On April 02 2011 04:27 micronesia wrote: The fear of moderating unjustly is worse than the fear of getting punished by a moderator (in my experience at least). On April 02 2011 04:48 MangoTango wrote: Be polite. Be efficient. Have a plan to kill everyone you meet. On April 02 2011 05:16 tofucake wrote: For some of us who came from the world of Counter-Strike (for example, me), it was a long, hard journey before I was able to make quality posts. Yes, common sense dictates that nobody should have any problem sticking around and having fun. But if common sense were really so common we wouldn't have the Automated Ban List. i'm really having a hard time too... the learning curve is real steep for old pig headed people, and i came from rts all the way (well loved quake for a year, then my eyes couldn't take the strain anymore ) .. that did not make me scared to open a pm though (funsies: pm= + Show Spoiler +police militaire=+ Show Spoiler + military police On April 02 2011 05:38 Zergneedsfood wrote: Never been banned. I think I try to keep my mouth shut when I'm mad. you bet, that's the best advice AH no! This is  On April 02 2011 05:43 Chef wrote: Don't make stupid posts and you'll be alright for awhile. Don't get mad at moderators and you'll be alright forever. Sometimes moderators will do really provocative, unprofessional things that will make you want to tell them off. Resist that temptation and there's nothing to fear. + Show Spoiler + I used to think SomethingAwful might be even more strict, but really the great guidelines they have are not that enforced. TL has the best moderation of any site I've been to, and they do it without charging you money. You're not going to find a better forum than TL, in terms of moderation and motivated staff. TL makes some mistakes and not all the mods are great, but when you try other forums you come to see just how much more active TL is, and how much more on top of things the mods are. The grass is not greener anywhere else, trust me. On April 02 2011 07:24 Herpadurr wrote: Why would you fear banning?+ Show Spoiler + I've gotten my fair amount of warning and a ban before and I simply don't give a shit. The mods on here are taking their job way too seriously (a.k.a. power-tripping), especially in the funny pictures thread. There are so many things in there that I regard as being funny that people got warned or even banned over that I can't take any of the mods seriously anymore. The thread tells you not to debate over the pictures, yet a warning or a ban is exactly that. Why not just implement a voting system so the users, not the mods, can decide whether a picture is funny or not and below a certain threshold the picture gets purged? The website promotes communication but doesn't even give you any chance of appealing a warning or a ban or explaining what you meant, should there be a possibility of it being taken wrong. The system is a joke. There are political systems that work that way and you don't like them. I have a rather harsh but efficient way of telling people that they're retarded or could have used Google and the likes and should I ever get banned for good, I'll just make a new account. Dynamic IPs for the win. And even if you're not on a dynamic IP: as long as you think you said the right thing and made your point clear and get banned regardless, you should realize that this community isn't quite smart enough to get what you're saying or at least whoever banned you isn't. this one has a nuked icon Physician's link : priceless On April 02 2011 13:15 iNSiPiD1 wrote: I got banned recently for posing an alternative viewpoint in a thread where everyone was against me. However I could not be proven wrong, but since I was one of the few people with this alternative way of looking at the situation, I was deemed a troll. The mod thought of a clever line to put under his reason for banning me and couldn't resist. So the next thing you know I'm banned for essentially participating in a discussion. + Show Spoiler + Had I posted things like, "WWOOOWOOW what a d-bag" or "THAT guy is a HUGE loser omGFF" then I would not have been banned. Go figure. That's the type i was scouting for i feel the same way... being alone vs most is not really possible (well.. that's the case anywhere  ... not just on tl)On April 02 2011 13:27 Khaymus wrote: As long as your opinion is the same as the mods you should be fine! On April 02 2011 14:27 HawaiianPig wrote: That fear is what shapes you into a good poster. Best way to never get banned is to think twice about posting. I don't think I really started posting on TL until after 3-4 years of lurking. LurkHer heaven i tell you On April 02 2011 20:11 Legatus Lanius wrote: i think the moderation can be overly harsh on jokes. sometimes it seems like humour is being persecuted This next one is a pearl: On April 06 2011 08:53 Fyodor wrote: I generally like the moderation here but I have a big problem with the "moral policing". Everything that relates to so-called inappropriate posts. There is a strong contingency of mods and posters who hold as law the judeo-christian values. In threads relating to a person's death, crime or other sensitive matter to the judeo-christian orientation, you are expected to follow their custom. Whether it be not to make jokes, not to hold them responsible, etc. You can make the most thoughtful and elaborate post but you will still get the hammer because of the moral policing. Rationally speaking this is unfair. Another point is that in any serious thread the mods seem to discourage actual dialectic and by that I mean "back and forth arguments". How do you expect to have a serious discussion at all if we can't "rub each other out" so-to-speak. IMO Dialectic is the only productive thing you can do on a forum thread when the information is largely already known by the participants. Honest, i love dialectic and i feel for the "back and forth" Well, having read it, the thread is mostly what's to be expected.. Personally, i felt wronged from the way i learned the ropes on tl.. and i still do to a certain extent... (it has not made me feel apprehension on logging in) The bot thread still rubs me the wrong way, but i can readily admit that the "forum" system needs moderation, so "fear of the ban" is gonna be enforced and acclaimed i just happened to have a non conservative opinion and that got me stonewalled for .. maybe forever? (But again, the unconventional being shunt is what you'll get on any site) | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
now almost 22, I dont even think about it, just every time you are gonna post something, try to read it was a mod would, and it will avoid it 100% of trouble | ||
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Neo7
United States922 Posts
On the flip side, GameFAQs probably has the most lenient rules/mods ever in terms of forums. You can bad mouth moderators all you want as long as it isn't a direct insult (I've seen many users call certain mods 'useless'). Probably the reason most of their social boards are one-liner fests (yeah I'm guilty of that over there too but at least I try not to carry that habit over here). I've even seen mods rage quit their positions simply because of unpopularity. Still...has it's own unique charm if you want to spam more or start threads with short and sweet posts. | ||
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adso
718 Posts
Just a question of properly placing one's post.. finding these out does take a while, since the wording of the thread headings are like the posters "unique snowflakes". :-) | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
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Krehlmar
Sweden1149 Posts
I was banned for a week and I've never been a problem. Seeing as I've paid for every GSL other than GSL1 aswell as NASL and DreamhackInvitational I support esports more than 95% of the general mass and yet I get banned for no reason other than a mod wanting his opinion to be final. So I wouldn't had agreed before but I still think it was a bull decision. Note; not saying you should be able to buy immunity or whatnot, I'm simply saying I'm a good guy who does alot of good for the community and I was punished for a selfish reason. | ||
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BordZ
Australia118 Posts
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mentallyafk
139 Posts
mods are ridiculous | ||
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BeefEU
Netherlands260 Posts
On April 24 2011 20:57 mentallyafk wrote: i got banned for saying that cruncher has skill mods are ridiculous That's not so weird, I agree with mods banning people that are lying! | ||
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IamAnton
Canada335 Posts
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gNs.I-Jasa
United States211 Posts
On April 06 2011 13:19 Asparagus wrote: There's a thread about playing starcraft2 stoned (hint- drug fucking usage you idiots) that was first page and not locked/deleted over the course of 3+ days so far. Yet people are being banned for saying "boo idra sucks" in a fan page. User was temp banned for this post. why the fuck was he ban for writing this? seriously. | ||
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Nyovne
Netherlands19135 Posts
On April 24 2011 20:57 mentallyafk wrote: i got banned for saying that cruncher has skill mods are ridiculous "Reason: your last 3 posts are all in the fanclub threads, and all of them are balance whines. take a break for a bit, don't post about balance unless you have reams (literally) of evidence, and don't post in the fanclub threads if you don't like what they put there." Yeah, that's totally what you got banned for. It's funny to read through this thread and compare what people say they got banned for and when and how more then half of you totally lies about it haha. Or the reason, or the moment or especially the fact that most just got a warning and not even a ban .Example: On April 06 2011 16:42 35spike1 wrote: I got Temp Banned for my 3rd post, for the next month I feared that every PM was another ban coming my way. Since then I've lost the initial worries Just got a warning for not adhering to strategy forum guidelines (aka not watching the replay and posting random not useful advice). Teehee, you naughty posters you! xD | ||
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Kairo
Sweden184 Posts
Historically IMHO, this had the double edged effect of lurkers being more reluctant to add their two cents to discussions if they/we/I actually do not bring either insight or content to it, but also thereby increasing the average posting quality by HUGE amounts. As a frequent reader/rare poster of TL I totally buy into the concept of "if you do not think- do not post", but with the entry of SC2 even the old arms of chill eventually ache. Lucky for me the most horrible posters usually stay at the SC2 part of TL. About "fear of banning", my interpretation of the "rules" is that not posting is a bannable offence; but that is a bit too counterintuitive for me to worry about... | ||
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