Iraq & Syrian Civil Wars - Page 92

On August 30 2013 07:23 Bayyne wrote:


This guy is my hero.

On August 30 2013 07:45 revel8 wrote:
So almost 100 MPs failed to take part in the vote on Syria? WTF? Were they all on holiday or something? Disgraceful.

On August 30 2013 07:16 revel8 wrote:


Afterwards, Cameron had the idiocy to say that it is clear that Parliament does not want (military) action. The vote against was 51% with 49% for. The only thing clear is that Parliament is split on the issue with the nay-sayers having just a few more votes.

Cameron did say he would not use the Royal Prerogative to go to war before having another vote in Parliament. Cameron is such a weak PM though, probably the weakest in my lifetime. Even with the Whip he couldn't secure a majority vote such is his failure to obtain a Parliamentary majority.

It will be interesting to see what damage this failure to secure a vote will do to Cameron's career as PM.

On August 30 2013 07:50 Zaros wrote:


yes they are on holiday, it was a recalled parliament, obviously some didn't want to or couldn't get back. I know one MP was on the syrian border for example.

On August 30 2013 07:40 Shiragaku wrote:

Yeah...once you learn more about this guy, you may start to dislike him immensely.

But other than that, good for Galloway. He actually did something good.

On August 30 2013 07:29 Zaros wrote:
Pretty damaging and especially disgusting with Ed Miliband saying he gave support to Cameron then withdrawing it at the last second on a matter as serious as this.

If the UN weapons inspectors conclude that chemical weapons have been used, in the eyes of this country and the world, that confers legitimacy on the finding beyond the view of any individual country or any intelligence agency.

What is more, it is possible that what the weapons inspectors discover, could give the world greater confidence in identifying the perpetrators of this horrific attack.

On August 30 2013 07:54 exog wrote:


Thats called democracy. He cant dictate the votes, and abstaining from overruling the vote shows faith in his peers.

On August 30 2013 07:59 Archybaldie wrote:


The labour party/ed miliband proposed this amendment:

“Labour will table our own amendment on Syria in the Commons tomorrow. Our amendment will insist the Prime Minister must return to the Commons after the UN weapons inspectors have reported. Parliament must tomorrow agree criteria for action, not write a blank cheque.”

It just seems like they want more evidence, which is frankly what i think a good portion of people want.

On August 30 2013 07:59 Archybaldie wrote:


The labour party/ed miliband proposed this amendment:

“Labour will table our own amendment on Syria in the Commons tomorrow. Our amendment will insist the Prime Minister must return to the Commons after the UN weapons inspectors have reported. Parliament must tomorrow agree criteria for action, not write a blank cheque.”

It just seems like they want more evidence, which is frankly what i think a good portion of people want.

On August 30 2013 07:54 exog wrote:


Thats called democracy. He cant dictate the votes, and abstaining from overruling the vote shows faith in his peers.

On August 30 2013 08:04 Jockmcplop wrote:


Exactly. Even if the evidence already suggests that it was Assad who launched the attack, the US and UK should wait for the UN results anyway, because not to do so is a big needless "fuck you" to the rest of the world. There's no difference between striking now and in a week, except next week we will know more facts about the situation. Not to wait is reckless and could result in much more damage politically and in human terms.

On August 30 2013 08:05 revel8 wrote:


Do you even understand what a three-line whip is? Obviously not. Cameron expected to win this vote under the three-line whip. It was mandatory to attend and to vote along party lines was expected VERY strongly. Failure to do so could lead to expulsion from the Party. This was essentially a mutiny in Cameron's own party (Conservative). Like I said, Cameron is such a weak PM.

On August 30 2013 07:59 Archybaldie wrote:


The labour party/ed miliband proposed this amendment:

“Labour will table our own amendment on Syria in the Commons tomorrow. Our amendment will insist the Prime Minister must return to the Commons after the UN weapons inspectors have reported. Parliament must tomorrow agree criteria for action, not write a blank cheque.”

It just seems like they want more evidence, which is frankly what i think a good portion of people want.


A section from his speech in parliment:

On August 30 2013 08:07 Bayyne wrote:


I believe the concern with waiting is that Syria/Russia/Iran has more time to prepare for that inevitable strike, which could complicate things and put more people at harm's way.

On August 30 2013 08:04 Jockmcplop wrote:


Exactly. Even if the evidence already suggests that it was Assad who launched the attack, the US and UK should wait for the UN results anyway, because not to do so is a big needless "fuck you" to the rest of the world. There's no difference between striking now and in a week, except next week we will know more facts about the situation. Not to wait is reckless and could result in much more damage politically and in human terms.

On August 30 2013 08:14 Jockmcplop wrote:


That doesn't give anyone the right to go bomb a country. There is a reason in a court evidence is required to be convicted. Do people have such short memories? The US & UK lied about evidence to start a war before, and got caught, i can't believe how many people support them being able to try it again instead of waiting for proper evidence.

On August 30 2013 07:15 dsousa wrote:
Go Brits!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIddCee7P0c