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Please guys, stay on topic.
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Troops and tanks are reported to have swept into the Syrian city of Baniyas, a centre of anti-government protests.
They entered in three places and were heading towards the Sunni districts of the coastal city, human rights activists told news agencies.
The BBC's Jim Muir in neighbouring Lebanon said he had been unable to confirm the reports as communications to the city appeared to have been cut.
The US has warned Damascus to end its brutal crackdown on protesters.
The White House said on Friday it would take "additional steps" if President Bashar al-Assad did not take steps to end the bloodshed.
More than 500 people are thought to have been killed in the uprising since mid-March.
At least 21 people were reportedly killed in Homs, Hama and other cities on Friday, in what protesters had vowed would be a "day of defiance".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13320326
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Edit: Crap wrong thread. please delete.
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I personally find that its total BS that nothing is being done by the United Nations. The secretary general only released a short statement regarding this
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On May 13 2011 13:38 thoradycus wrote:
I personally find that its total BS that nothing is being done by the United Nations.
They need to find a deal with people on the inside before they can do anything. (see Libya). Otherwise they are just gonna be satisfied with denouncing and all that jazz.
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A mass grave was discovered today in deraa south of Damascus ..........the army is killing his own people.
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Dictatorships ftw. The government is still killing hundreds of protesters every day. Why the hell isn't Nato interfering?
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and I wanted to fly to Syria in the summer to improve my arabic language skills T_T
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Shit is about to get real in Syria.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43295395/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/
Armed men attacked Syrian security forces in a tense northern city on Monday, killing 120 policemen and security forces in a region where the army has carried out days of deadly assaults on protesters, state television said.
I wonder if Bashar will follow in the footsteps of his father and utterly purge the protesters. The senior Assad gloated that he killed 30,000 people in Hama and his only regret was that his forces ran out of people to shoot.
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"We will deal strongly and decisively, and according to the law, and we will not be silent about any armed attack that targets the security of the state and its citizens," said Interior Minister Ibrahim Shaar.
Doublespeak at it's finest. I feel the same way about this as I do listening to anything pro-war-onDrugs/Terror or any other hateful spew. Divide and rule.
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Yes, because the Syrian government's brutal and violent repression of domestic dissent and calls for reform is exactly like the US government's brutal and violent repression of domestic criticism of US foreign policy.
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GUVECCI, Turkey – Syrian policemen turned their guns on each other, soldiers shed their uniforms rather than obey orders to fire on protesters, and three young men who tried to escape were beheaded by forces loyal to President Bashar Assad.
As more than 2,400 Syrians streamed across the open Turkish borders on Thursday ahead of tanks and troops who surrounded their hometown, they brought with them the first accounts of a week of revolt, mutiny and mayhem in Jisra al-Shughour. The streets were deserted, leaving no resistance against a regime equipped for all-out battle.
Even safe in Turkish camps 12 miles (20 kilometers) away, the Syrians said they feared the authoritarian government's reach and refused to allow their full names to be used.
A young man who identified himself as Rami said the Syrian reinforcements were mobilized in response to a mutiny among police and soldiers, sharply divided over how to disperse the protesters.
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Assad loyalists have stormed both the U.S. and French embassies, they were driven off by Marines and French Guards.
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Syrian tanks launch fresh attack on city of Hama
The Syrian city of Hama has come under heavy bombardment by tanks on the second day of a crackdown on anti-government protesters, activists say.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-14363559
Surprised more ppl aren't talking about this. Is it because they don't have internet and journalists aren't allowed in the country? No youtube videos = no public outrage ? How effective for the government. Surely we have satellite photos of these tanks ?
The situation there seems worse then in Libya and it has been going on for a long while it seems. Why did ppl care about Libya enough to send planes but not here. Is it because ppl hated Kaddafi ?
I'd like the UN help these guys, i really do but i don't see the UN doing everything either. They are spread pretty thin as it is. Too bad the Chinese or some1 "new" can't step in. But i disgress, that's never gonna happen.
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On August 02 2011 06:50 Nizaris wrote:Show nested quote +Syrian tanks launch fresh attack on city of Hama
The Syrian city of Hama has come under heavy bombardment by tanks on the second day of a crackdown on anti-government protesters, activists say. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-14363559Surprised more ppl aren't talking about this. Is it because they don't have internet and journalists aren't allowed in the country? No youtube videos = no public outrage ? How effective for the government. Surely we have satellite photos of these tanks ? The situation there seems worse then in Libya and it has been going on for a long while it seems. Why did ppl care about Libya enough to send planes but not here. Is it because ppl hated Kaddafi ? I'd like the UN help these guys, i really do but i don't see the UN doing everything either. They are spread pretty thin as it is. Too bad the Chinese or some1 "new" can't step in. But i disgress, that's never gonna happen.
Until China and Russia refuse any intervention, UN won't move any finger. USA could do the same thing than in Irak, but i doubt they will, considering their current economy and wars.
To be honest, i think it's pretty confortable for the other members (France, UK and USA) that the two others are against any intervention.
They can say "Booo, bad Syrian leader, freedom for people !" and "I dont move any f***in finger, but it's not my fault, deal with Medvedev" in the same time.
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These are the exact same protests that people who believed in "saving Iraq" when WMDs were turned out to be a lie, thought would never happen without help. Although I wonder if these protests are anything to do with seeing other countries invading over countries and telling citizens they can have life better? At least people in Syria are brave enough to stand up and set fire to buildings and march en masse in what would assuredly be spun as "terrorist" if done in the U.S. They have the spirit of revolution that U.S. citzens lost. its too bad that the leaders are suppressing with force. Any time you have to suppress the local population from throwing you out of office with force, you are no longer for that country, of that country, you are one man trying to control a country that's not yours by consent, in other words, you're like a foreign invader and must be resisted with all force.
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Well looks like the first official Arab reaction came today from Saudi Arabia after an Arab league summit (which is in essence, a product of old oppressive regimes and should be discredited out right). However, it is still a message of "behave" instead or "we are coming to get you".
Syria is a worse offender than Libya Egypt Tunisia Bahrain & Yemen combined. Yet we get the diplomatic statements of "lost legitimacy" "oh stop it" "they have the right bro".
Double standards. Shitty and useless UN/Arab League. Afraid of Iran and Hezbollah.
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On August 08 2011 07:45 Fattah wrote:
Well looks like the first official Arab reaction came today from Saudi Arabia after an Arab league summit (which is in essence, a product of old oppressive regimes and should be discredited out right). However, it is still a message of "behave" instead or "we are coming to get you".
Syria is a worse offender than Libya Egypt Tunisia Bahrain & Yemen combined. Yet we get the diplomatic statements of "lost legitimacy" "oh stop it" "they have the right bro".
Double standards. Shitty and useless UN/Arab League. Afraid of Iran and Hezbollah.
Quite true.
Military intervention in Syria could potentially blow up into something bigger since they have Iran backing them, unlike Libya who was pretty much alone.
Interestingly enough however, Russia, of all nations, warned Assad that he will face a "sad fate' if he doesn't stop the carnage.
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