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Please guys, stay on topic.

This thread is about the situation in Iraq and Syria.
LaLLsc2
Profile Joined September 2010
United States502 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 06:06:27
August 08 2011 06:05 GMT
#41
On August 08 2011 14:56 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Anonymous has hacked the Syrian Ministry of Defense site: http://mod.gov.sy/



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Live and Let Live
ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
August 28 2011 17:22 GMT
#42
Syrian opposition decides to take up arms against Assad regime
Leader of Revolutionary Council tell London-based As-Sharq al-Awsat that the only solution to regime's violence is armed uprising.

The leader of the Revolutionary Council of the Syrian Coordination Committees, Mohammad Rahhal, said in remarks published Sunday that the council took the decision to arm the Syrian revolution.

Since mid-March pro-democracy protests have engulfed most of Syria calling for political and economic reforms as well as for the ousting of Syrian president Bashar Assad.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/syrian-opposition-decides-to-take-up-arms-against-assad-regime-1.381184
Yes im
muse5187
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
1125 Posts
August 28 2011 17:24 GMT
#43
On August 29 2011 02:22 ImFromPortugal wrote:
Syrian opposition decides to take up arms against Assad regime
Leader of Revolutionary Council tell London-based As-Sharq al-Awsat that the only solution to regime's violence is armed uprising.

The leader of the Revolutionary Council of the Syrian Coordination Committees, Mohammad Rahhal, said in remarks published Sunday that the council took the decision to arm the Syrian revolution.

Since mid-March pro-democracy protests have engulfed most of Syria calling for political and economic reforms as well as for the ousting of Syrian president Bashar Assad.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/syrian-opposition-decides-to-take-up-arms-against-assad-regime-1.381184


IF that is true, this could turn ugly. Much more ugly than before.
muse5187
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
1125 Posts
August 28 2011 17:26 GMT
#44
On August 08 2011 15:05 LaLLsc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 14:56 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Anonymous has hacked the Syrian Ministry of Defense site: http://mod.gov.sy/



[image loading]

Awesome, they took it down though. xD
SySLeif
Profile Joined July 2011
United States123 Posts
August 28 2011 17:37 GMT
#45
What's weird is that people always wants a peaceful revolution, but in reality history tells us the bloodiest revolutions for democracy are the ones that end up with the least corrupted governments and best aftermaths.
That's why I have so much hope for Libya now.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 17:47:53
August 28 2011 17:46 GMT
#46
Do you have any idea how big of a cluster**** France was and how many governmental turn-overs they had before it finally settled down after the Revolution?

They had a new government every 20 years until 1870.
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arbitrageur
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia1202 Posts
August 28 2011 17:56 GMT
#47
Cool dictatorship Bashar u fucking dickhead
0mar
Profile Joined February 2010
United States567 Posts
August 28 2011 17:58 GMT
#48
On August 29 2011 02:56 arbitrageur wrote:
Cool dictatorship Bashar u fucking dickhead


The West favors stability over freedom. Why do you think the US has been slow to push these countries for democratic reforms? The last thing the US/West wants is a resurgent Arab world.
Saji
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands262 Posts
August 28 2011 18:00 GMT
#49
On August 29 2011 02:58 0mar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 02:56 arbitrageur wrote:
Cool dictatorship Bashar u fucking dickhead


The West favors stability over freedom. Why do you think the US has been slow to push these countries for democratic reforms? The last thing the US/West wants is a resurgent Arab world.


Omar i think most people in Europe and USA don't understand what the Western Governments means when they use the word democracy
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
August 28 2011 18:29 GMT
#50
On August 29 2011 02:58 0mar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 02:56 arbitrageur wrote:
Cool dictatorship Bashar u fucking dickhead


The West favors stability over freedom. Why do you think the US has been slow to push these countries for democratic reforms? The last thing the US/West wants is a resurgent Arab world.


True for friendly regimes like Bahrein but certainly not for enemies like Syria.

Plus powerful western countries (especially the US) represent various different interests. I don't think it's correct to think of these countries (let alone the West as a whole) as individual actors or monolithic entities with clearly defined goals.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
August 28 2011 23:12 GMT
#51
Moscow to demand immediate halt of violence in Syria

Russian diplomatic sources told Al Arabiya that Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov would arrive in Damascus on Monday for talks with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and Foreign Minister Walid al-Muallem over the escalating situation in the country.

According to the sources, Bogdanov will call upon Syrian authorities to withdraw the army and security forces from cities and to immediately stop the violence while warning that Damascus’s reluctance to respond to those demands will force Russia to support a Security Council resolution that imposes sanctions on Syria.

Sources close to the Kremlin also revealed that Mikhail Margelov, chairman of the Federation Council International Affairs Committee, who hosted a delegation of Syrian opposition in Moscow a few weeks ago, will issue a firm statement following Bogdanov’s return from Syria.

The statement, the sources added, will demand taking international action to stop the violence in Syria and protect unarmed civilians and will recommend imposing sanctions on the Syrian regime.

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/08/28/164414.html
Yes im
ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
October 04 2011 22:04 GMT
#52
Assad: Syria will shower Tel Aviv with rockets if attacked by foreign powers
Iranian news agency quotes remarks made by Syrian president during August meeting with Turkish FM; Assad: It will take Damascus 6 hours to mobilize against Israel.


Syria will strike Israel and "set fire" to the Middle East if foreign forces choose to launch a military strike on the protest-ridden country, the Iranian news agency Fars quoted Syrian President Bashar Assad as saying on Tuesday, referring to remarks made by the Syrian leader during a meeting with Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu last August.

During a meeting with the Turkish FM, the Fars report claimed, Assad indicated that Syria would not hesitate to strike major Israeli cities if it was attacked.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/assad-syria-will-shower-tel-aviv-with-rockets-if-attacked-by-foreign-powers-1.388135

Yes im
Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
October 05 2011 08:18 GMT
#53
Ok, so after the vote in UN, Russia and China vetoed sanctions on Syria.

http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/70635/russia-opposes-un-vote-on-syria-eu-to-expand-sanctions-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15177657

I like how the USA is outraged. This situation has been on for 6 months, someone tell them to stop the hypocrisy.

On the other side, looks like Russia and China saw what happened the last time they abstained (Libya) and try to make up for that failure. Russia says they will veto any resolution that can legitimate any kind of military involvement against Syria, and have been during the last months the only to actually try and do something, try to force the authorities and opposition on negotiations.

I hope this can be settled peacefully, by realizing a compromise between the actual regime and opposition, too many dead/injured/destroyed lives already.
They first ignore you. After they laugh at you. Next they will fight you. In the end you will win.
macmann
Profile Joined May 2011
87 Posts
October 05 2011 08:46 GMT
#54
On October 05 2011 17:18 Pika Chu wrote:


I hope this can be settled peacefully, by realizing a compromise between the actual regime and opposition, too many dead/injured/destroyed lives already.

Doubt it.
I think Assad has come too far now to step back.
All his allies are skeptical at best about his regime's future.

I think Assad and everybody around him will face a sad fate, like Medvedev said.
BioNova
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States598 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 14:57:17
October 05 2011 16:15 GMT
#55
The timing here interests me. Assad is probably going to end up in The Hague long-term or dead within the year
I used to like trumpets, now I prefer pause. "Don't move a muscle JP!"
GeyzeR
Profile Joined November 2010
250 Posts
October 06 2011 10:43 GMT
#56
On October 05 2011 07:04 ImFromPortugal wrote:
Assad: Syria will shower Tel Aviv with rockets if attacked by foreign powers
Iranian news agency quotes remarks made by Syrian president during August meeting with Turkish FM; Assad: It will take Damascus 6 hours to mobilize against Israel.


http://www.sana.sy/eng/337/2011/10/06/373787.htm

Foreign Ministry: Syria Confronting Blatant Media War to Justify Foreign Interference

On a relevant note, the Russian Foreign Ministry issued a statement saying that Syria is facing a blatant media wars controlled by forces that seek to defame Syria and create conditions for justifying foreign interference in its internal affairs.

The statement, made in response for false statements attributed to the Syrian leadership by western channels when in fact they were taken from Israeli press and channels, said that these actions are unacceptable and hinder ending the crisis in Syria.

Here is the statement

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http://www.mid.ru/brp_4.nsf/0/9D9B1BBD0336DBDDC32579200055A47E

"At this point there is adequate refutation of the official authorities as Syria and Turkey.
We believe that in this case we are dealing with a rude provocation, an act of overt information war being waged against Syria. It is evident that these are forces interested in making the most tarnish the image of Syria and its leadership in the eyes of the world and thus make the creation of conditions to justify external intervention in the affairs of Syria to overthrow the existing regime there"

Welcome to the contemporary media wars

Mass media exists for not bringing truth to the masses, but to alter public opinion in the way it is needed for mass media owners.
Also, Santa Claus does not exist.
Sorry for ruining your world
HellRoxYa
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1614 Posts
October 06 2011 13:30 GMT
#57
Yeah man, Syrian national news is way more trustworthy. I'm sure they're fair and balanced. Are you going to poop all over this thread too?
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
October 06 2011 14:14 GMT
#58
Sorry for ruining your world


Nah, just ruining another thread but at this point i doubt you can help yourself.
GeyzeR
Profile Joined November 2010
250 Posts
October 06 2011 14:30 GMT
#59
On October 06 2011 22:30 HellRoxYa wrote:
Yeah man, Syrian national news is way more trustworthy. I'm sure they're fair and balanced. Are you going to poop all over this thread too?


Why I am not surprised that you come and try to protect the lie?

Yes, Ministries of Foreign Affairs of Syria and Russia is way more trustworthy than combo of Israeli Haaretrz + Irani Fars (lie of any of these source results a lie)

HellRoxYam, you are bad at doing your job . Team up with zalz and come back with some facts and logic. For example, please come with the official Turkish position on the claims.

And your assaults on my personality are not effective and they just show your low level.
BioNova
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States598 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 17:18:15
October 06 2011 14:58 GMT
#60
On October 06 2011 22:30 HellRoxYa wrote:
Yeah man, Syrian national news is way more trustworthy. I'm sure they're fair and balanced. Are you going to poop all over this thread too?


Two weeks ago, once respected charity Amnesty International, claimed that it had “uncovered evidence” of an 18-year-old girl in Syria named Zainab al-Hosni, whose mutilated body was body had been decapitated and the arms and skin removed. Before long this story spread like wild fire, circulating throughout the multi billion dollar global mainstream media empire.

Yesterday, the real bombshell dropped. It’s official: Zainab al-Hosni was back from the dead, and being interviewed on Syrian TV, stating, “I came to the police station to tell the truth. That’s what I say to those lying channels – I’m now still alive, not dead”.

Source

Edit: This is why I compare stories from various outlets. I edited this post simply because the source was infowars. The same story is also up on several major-media outlets as well.
I used to like trumpets, now I prefer pause. "Don't move a muscle JP!"
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