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the bully totally had it coming... the injury could have been extreme to the spine tho. but LOL i bet he wont be bully any1 for the rest of his life again
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On March 15 2011 07:12 Nawyria wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 07:04 Hynda wrote:On March 15 2011 06:57 Nawyria wrote:I think the punishment dished out by the school was fair, if it is indeed correct that Casey got suspended for 4 days and his tormentor for 3 weeks. If this thing has been going on for some time, it's only right that bully should be on the more serious end of the punishment. On the other hand, while you can't fault Casey for standing up to his nemeses, his actions could indeed have caused permanent physical damage to the bully. However, if permanent physical damage did occur, I would not put more blame on him. Many underestimate the effect bullying has on people and the extremes it drives them to. Casey has shown extreme self-restraint not to have snapped earlier and to walk away after dropping the bully. What many seem to have forgotten is the fact that the bulling has most likely already caused permanent psychological damage to Casey. Anything short of life-changing injuries (such as paralysis) suffered by the bully simply does not compare to that. I think my countryman zalz said it very well: On March 15 2011 03:28 zalz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I am sorry but bullying utterly disgusts me and i can easily understand where this Casey kid is coming from.
They aren't pokes, they aren't small things, stuff like that literally shatters your self worth as someone continually invades your personal space and if you do shit back people will blame you. You don't just lose self worth, people will look down on you aswell for letting it happen.
Bullying isn't beating someone up, it's not calling someone names, it can be as small as poking someone all the time or as harmless as constantly shouting a persons name in an annoying voice as he walks by. If you ask "what did they do?" what can you tell people? They said my name in an annoying voice? Even though you yourself know that every time they do that you hate yourself more and more, to others it seems small and insignificant.
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The truth is that if someone tries to bully you, it's not going to stop until you beat them and you beat them up good.
What this kid did was nothing compared to what they must have done to him. That kid is going to feel pain for a day or two big fucking deal. The other kid is going to still feel like shit and he probably will for a long time after that bully has long forgotten his name.
Physical pain is a joke compared to having no feeling of self-worth left. You know a broken leg is going to heal but you don't know if you are ever going to consider yourself worth something. Hope that kid is left with a permanent scar or something, altough then he would still be getting off better. I'm still suffering from being bullied, I can't maintain a relationship without constant confirmation, I've been to counceling for years because I couldn't maintain selfworth for longer than 5 minutes forcing myself to constantly be active and alot of other issues from being bullied, I know for sure I would feel a hell of alot worse if I had killed the guy or scarred him for life. I grew up, most bullys have their own issues, and most of them can turn out to be decent people if they get the help they need. And if Casey would have, the knowledge itself would be punishment enough in my opinion. I simply hope that now this case is blown wide open, something constructive will come of it on both ends of the conflict. You are right in that we shouldn't marginalize the bully here, he probably has issues of his own.
It doesn't matter what kind of "issues" you have, hitting someone that isn't fighting back is never the right thing to do. The kid obviously enjoyed what he was doing, and he deserved to get hit back. It doesn't matter how Casey did it, the bully should not have hit him in the first place. I don't care what problems that kid has, his dad could beat the shit out of him every day, I don't know, but he chose the wrong path to release his anger and paid the price for it.
The bully, no matter what his problem is, made the wrong choice by punching Casey. He deserved to be punished. Maybe next time he'll ask for help if he needs it, instead of trying to beat it out of Casey.
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I heard the kid got wrestling lessons from Liquid`Tyler and that's why he was finally able to overcome his bullying as his ultimate gift to Tyler.
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That little punk deserved it. Casey was baller. He did just enough to defend himself and then walked away the moment he managed the situation.
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Shame the kid couldn't do what i did just grow to be 6'1" half way though the 6th grade nobody picks on you when you you're taller and skinny they think you'll freak out on them at knife them. But yeah that's not the way to handle it what you do is make a very public statement near a school official, making it clear that you had enough of the bulling usually by hitting them with something then yelling to draw in the school to take a serious enough stance against the kid bullying you also to say to the bully that you've had enough and mean it. Although you'll draw some school flack for hitting him it does make them take you seriously if you report the kid if doesn't stop from that incident, atleast it's what happened to a kid in my pe class 9th grade all i know is that they stopped picking on him after his freakout during class.
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Well that's how school is. At least that's how I know it.
I never bullied anyone because I knew it is wrong and I was not the coolest nor strongest myself.
But everybody knew that they should not mess with me because back then I was so full of anger that I sometimes blindly punched a wall so hard that my knuckles started to bleed and kept punching till this feeling was gone. So they were all kinda scared of me, fortunately.
I mean it seems that's what you gotta do if you want to survive in school.
Just be the tough guy and show everybody how cool you are by bullying the less strong.
Or be a total weirdo so everyone thinks you would kill them in your rage.
I know that sounds totally savage and premature. Another way would be talking to your parents/teacher if you get bullied. But that's not how it works. You have to stand up for yourself and fight or 'die'. Otherwise you'll never break that cycle of violence you suffer.
It's like the cold war. If everyone is afraid of the vengeance of the other there won't be a fight.
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On March 15 2011 07:17 Xiron wrote:
But I would have (from what I'm feeling now) kicked the shit out of this RatBoy until he could not stand up anymore, spit on him and punch him again and again and again. I know, this is wrong. And I know, it would have been worse for me and Casey than for this rat. But there is so much violence in this world. I've never been bullied, but my mother died on january 5th this year and I can imagine Caseys hate and feeling of being alone against the ocean is the same as mine. What can you do to someone causing pain but let him feel this pain himself? Talking? Haha... Maybe I'm just cruel and evil inside.
I don't think its overboard at all. If someone messes with you then they should expect the same, if not more, in return. I know if someone ever punched me for no good reason then I'd do my best to make sure that they really learned their lesson. Preferably from a hospital bed.
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I love how he just fucking slams the little faggot's head into the ground and then he staggers around for 10 minutes. Doesn't even realise how fucked up he got. I love when little faggots like that kid get raped.
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I had to switch schools because I was bullied like that and the teacher's didnt believe me. They flat out refused to believe me when I told them about that. If I could go back in time I would beat that specific guy to pulp, no holds barred, even if I'd go to prison for that. In fact, if I'd ever meet that guy again, there is a good chance I would beat him to pulp, just to regain some self-respect.
Sometimes you HAVE to stand up for yourself or you will regret your cowardice for the rest of your life.
Of course, after I switched schools, some other guy immediately starts bullying me. First I ignored him, after a month or so I was clenching my fists everytime I saw him. I went to the principal and flat out told him: if that guy would keeps bullying me, I will beat him to pulp. Guy got into SO MUCH TROUBLE because of this, it was hilarious. I saw him running out of the principal's office crying, he never dared to even look at me again.
Some people only understand one kind of language. You need to realize that when dealing with scumbags like that.
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On March 15 2011 06:57 Nawyria wrote:I think the punishment dished out by the school was fair, if it is indeed correct that Casey got suspended for 4 days and his tormentor for 3 weeks. If this thing has been going on for some time, it's only right that bully should be on the more serious end of the punishment. On the other hand, while you can't fault Casey for standing up to his nemeses, his actions could indeed have caused permanent physical damage to the bully. However, if permanent physical damage did occur, I would not put more blame on him. Many underestimate the effect bullying has on people and the extremes it drives them to. Casey has shown extreme self-restraint not to have snapped earlier and to walk away after dropping the bully. What many seem to have forgotten is the fact that the bulling has most likely already caused permanent psychological damage to Casey. Anything short of life-changing injuries (such as paralysis) suffered by the bully simply does not compare to that. I think my countryman zalz said it very well: Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 03:28 zalz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I am sorry but bullying utterly disgusts me and i can easily understand where this Casey kid is coming from.
They aren't pokes, they aren't small things, stuff like that literally shatters your self worth as someone continually invades your personal space and if you do shit back people will blame you. You don't just lose self worth, people will look down on you aswell for letting it happen.
Bullying isn't beating someone up, it's not calling someone names, it can be as small as poking someone all the time or as harmless as constantly shouting a persons name in an annoying voice as he walks by. If you ask "what did they do?" what can you tell people? They said my name in an annoying voice? Even though you yourself know that every time they do that you hate yourself more and more, to others it seems small and insignificant.
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The truth is that if someone tries to bully you, it's not going to stop until you beat them and you beat them up good.
What this kid did was nothing compared to what they must have done to him. That kid is going to feel pain for a day or two big fucking deal. The other kid is going to still feel like shit and he probably will for a long time after that bully has long forgotten his name.
Physical pain is a joke compared to having no feeling of self-worth left. You know a broken leg is going to heal but you don't know if you are ever going to consider yourself worth something. Hope that kid is left with a permanent scar or something, altough then he would still be getting off better.
Well said. The metal damage can take years to heal or stick with someone for their entire life.
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On March 15 2011 07:37 MrBadMan wrote:
I had to switch schools because I was bullied like that and the teacher's didnt believe me. They flat out refused to believe me when I told them about that. If I could go back in time I would beat that specific guy to pulp, no holds barred, even if I'd go to prison for that. In fact, if I'd ever meet that guy again, there is a good chance I would beat him to pulp, just to regain some self-respect.
Sometimes you HAVE to stand up for yourself or you will regret your cowardice for the rest of your life.
Of course, after I switched schools, some other guy immediately starts bullying me. First I ignored him, after a month or so I was clenching my fists everytime I saw him. I went to the principal and flat out told him: if that guy would keeps bullying me, I will beat him to pulp. Guy got into SO MUCH TROUBLE because of this, it was hilarious. I saw him running out of the principal's office crying, he never dared to even look at me again.
Some people only understand one kind of language. You need to realize that when dealing with scumbags like that.
Let me give TL'ers a lesson from somebody who only got bullied 1 day in his whole life:
When someone bullys you, beat his ass and make an example of it , nobody's going to do nothing ever again.
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On March 15 2011 07:36 chuigo wrote:
I love how he just fucking slams the little faggot's head into the ground and then he staggers around for 10 minutes. Doesn't even realise how fucked up he got. I love when little faggots like that kid get raped.
I flat out LOLD this caught me off guard so bad...Moving on its weird sort of, I was never bullied nor did I bully, a few jokes here and there but, isn't the bigger kid usually the bully? o.O
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On March 15 2011 07:29 TerlocSG wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 07:12 Nawyria wrote:On March 15 2011 07:04 Hynda wrote:On March 15 2011 06:57 Nawyria wrote:I think the punishment dished out by the school was fair, if it is indeed correct that Casey got suspended for 4 days and his tormentor for 3 weeks. If this thing has been going on for some time, it's only right that bully should be on the more serious end of the punishment. On the other hand, while you can't fault Casey for standing up to his nemeses, his actions could indeed have caused permanent physical damage to the bully. However, if permanent physical damage did occur, I would not put more blame on him. Many underestimate the effect bullying has on people and the extremes it drives them to. Casey has shown extreme self-restraint not to have snapped earlier and to walk away after dropping the bully. What many seem to have forgotten is the fact that the bulling has most likely already caused permanent psychological damage to Casey. Anything short of life-changing injuries (such as paralysis) suffered by the bully simply does not compare to that. I think my countryman zalz said it very well: On March 15 2011 03:28 zalz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I am sorry but bullying utterly disgusts me and i can easily understand where this Casey kid is coming from.
They aren't pokes, they aren't small things, stuff like that literally shatters your self worth as someone continually invades your personal space and if you do shit back people will blame you. You don't just lose self worth, people will look down on you aswell for letting it happen.
Bullying isn't beating someone up, it's not calling someone names, it can be as small as poking someone all the time or as harmless as constantly shouting a persons name in an annoying voice as he walks by. If you ask "what did they do?" what can you tell people? They said my name in an annoying voice? Even though you yourself know that every time they do that you hate yourself more and more, to others it seems small and insignificant.
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The truth is that if someone tries to bully you, it's not going to stop until you beat them and you beat them up good.
What this kid did was nothing compared to what they must have done to him. That kid is going to feel pain for a day or two big fucking deal. The other kid is going to still feel like shit and he probably will for a long time after that bully has long forgotten his name.
Physical pain is a joke compared to having no feeling of self-worth left. You know a broken leg is going to heal but you don't know if you are ever going to consider yourself worth something. Hope that kid is left with a permanent scar or something, altough then he would still be getting off better. I'm still suffering from being bullied, I can't maintain a relationship without constant confirmation, I've been to counceling for years because I couldn't maintain selfworth for longer than 5 minutes forcing myself to constantly be active and alot of other issues from being bullied, I know for sure I would feel a hell of alot worse if I had killed the guy or scarred him for life. I grew up, most bullys have their own issues, and most of them can turn out to be decent people if they get the help they need. And if Casey would have, the knowledge itself would be punishment enough in my opinion. I simply hope that now this case is blown wide open, something constructive will come of it on both ends of the conflict. You are right in that we shouldn't marginalize the bully here, he probably has issues of his own. It doesn't matter what kind of "issues" you have, hitting someone that isn't fighting back is never the right thing to do. The kid obviously enjoyed what he was doing, and he deserved to get hit back. It doesn't matter how Casey did it, the bully should not have hit him in the first place. I don't care what problems that kid has, his dad could beat the shit out of him every day, I don't know, but he chose the wrong path to release his anger and paid the price for it. The bully, no matter what his problem is, made the wrong choice by punching Casey. He deserved to be punished. Maybe next time he'll ask for help if he needs it, instead of trying to beat it out of Casey.
I agree with you. But how could this kid who beat Casey possibly know what to do with his anger if nobody showed him how to deal with it. I dont think that if somebody gets physically abused at home knows what to do to get rid of his anger. How could he. So in some way both of them are victims imo. (if this the case that the lil kid has problems and so on and not just enjoy bullying other kids. But its hard to talk about this issue without knowing the exact details.. just guessing.)
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Wow that looks like it hurts...
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i think that kids themselves bully people so that they can feel better about themselves. but it doesn't happen simply because the bullies are bad kids or that the authority figures don't do jack. i think a big part of bullying being prevalent is because other kids don't have the guts to stand up for the victims. look at the video: everyone just watched as the little kid punched him, but only 1 girl at the end stepped between casey and the bully's friend (she came just as casey windmill slammed him).
kids might not listen to authority all the time, but if their peers would simply say "yo thats not cool", then bullies who bully to gain respect and recognition from others might think about their actions a little next time before they decide to heckle their victim.
all it takes for bullying to occur is for good men to do nothing
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On March 15 2011 07:29 TerlocSG wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 07:12 Nawyria wrote:On March 15 2011 07:04 Hynda wrote:On March 15 2011 06:57 Nawyria wrote:I think the punishment dished out by the school was fair, if it is indeed correct that Casey got suspended for 4 days and his tormentor for 3 weeks. If this thing has been going on for some time, it's only right that bully should be on the more serious end of the punishment. On the other hand, while you can't fault Casey for standing up to his nemeses, his actions could indeed have caused permanent physical damage to the bully. However, if permanent physical damage did occur, I would not put more blame on him. Many underestimate the effect bullying has on people and the extremes it drives them to. Casey has shown extreme self-restraint not to have snapped earlier and to walk away after dropping the bully. What many seem to have forgotten is the fact that the bulling has most likely already caused permanent psychological damage to Casey. Anything short of life-changing injuries (such as paralysis) suffered by the bully simply does not compare to that. I think my countryman zalz said it very well: On March 15 2011 03:28 zalz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I am sorry but bullying utterly disgusts me and i can easily understand where this Casey kid is coming from.
They aren't pokes, they aren't small things, stuff like that literally shatters your self worth as someone continually invades your personal space and if you do shit back people will blame you. You don't just lose self worth, people will look down on you aswell for letting it happen.
Bullying isn't beating someone up, it's not calling someone names, it can be as small as poking someone all the time or as harmless as constantly shouting a persons name in an annoying voice as he walks by. If you ask "what did they do?" what can you tell people? They said my name in an annoying voice? Even though you yourself know that every time they do that you hate yourself more and more, to others it seems small and insignificant.
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The truth is that if someone tries to bully you, it's not going to stop until you beat them and you beat them up good.
What this kid did was nothing compared to what they must have done to him. That kid is going to feel pain for a day or two big fucking deal. The other kid is going to still feel like shit and he probably will for a long time after that bully has long forgotten his name.
Physical pain is a joke compared to having no feeling of self-worth left. You know a broken leg is going to heal but you don't know if you are ever going to consider yourself worth something. Hope that kid is left with a permanent scar or something, altough then he would still be getting off better. I'm still suffering from being bullied, I can't maintain a relationship without constant confirmation, I've been to counceling for years because I couldn't maintain selfworth for longer than 5 minutes forcing myself to constantly be active and alot of other issues from being bullied, I know for sure I would feel a hell of alot worse if I had killed the guy or scarred him for life. I grew up, most bullys have their own issues, and most of them can turn out to be decent people if they get the help they need. And if Casey would have, the knowledge itself would be punishment enough in my opinion. I simply hope that now this case is blown wide open, something constructive will come of it on both ends of the conflict. You are right in that we shouldn't marginalize the bully here, he probably has issues of his own. It doesn't matter what kind of "issues" you have, hitting someone that isn't fighting back is never the right thing to do. The kid obviously enjoyed what he was doing, and he deserved to get hit back. It doesn't matter how Casey did it, the bully should not have hit him in the first place. I don't care what problems that kid has, his dad could beat the shit out of him every day, I don't know, but he chose the wrong path to release his anger and paid the price for it. The bully, no matter what his problem is, made the wrong choice by punching Casey. He deserved to be punished. Maybe next time he'll ask for help if he needs it, instead of trying to beat it out of Casey.
I'm not defending the bully's actions. I'm saying someone should look into the cause of his bullying and try to remedy his problems to prevent this stuff from happening ever again.
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That bully kid got fucking shat on, bet he wont try that shit again lol
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It was worth it. Casey won't be bothered by him again. Kid got what he deserved.
You can say that he could've died, but he didn't. 
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I just can't understand how some people are saying it isn't the right thing he did. As soon as he slammed the kid to the ground, he walked away. I mean, he doesn't know the difference between a punch and a slam (The damage it could do). And even if he did, if someone like Casey would have swarmed over him and punched/elbowed him in the face it would have been way worse.
If I was in the same situation and slammed the guy to the ground, I probably would have ground and pounded him till there was nothing left off him.
Bullies are the worst thing ever, and should get what they deserve.
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