EPTThe case of the bullied kid Casey - Page 24
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Note: a number of sources are saying that Beast Master Casey has been suspended for 4 days and that the rat boy was suspended for 21. Look around for more sources please. | ||
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CaptainFwiffo
United States576 Posts
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billy5000
United States865 Posts
I'm pretty damn sure the beast master casey thought through the consequences he was going to face prior to his slam.. | ||
micronesia
United States24805 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:49 Manifesto7 wrote: That sad clip reveals the years of torment Casey has taken at the hands of others. This bully/bullied dance has been, and always will be, going on forever. It is part of growing up. I think we (speaking very generally) have a lot of control over bullying. It is more common in some places than other. Some people do it, others don't. Some make juicy targets, others don't. I'm sure you didn't intend this Mani but I strongly feel we shouldn't write off excessive bullying as a necessary evil although I do admit we can never 100% eradicate it. I question most current efforts to prevent bullying though... at least in places I'm familiar with. | ||
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Nammflow
United States35 Posts
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fusihunter
Australia208 Posts
I wouldn't say it was the right thing to do, and i wouldn't want my kids to do that. If he had killed the kid then Casey would have been in alot of sh*t. I still think that the kid had it coming though, and hopefully that'll teach the little sh*t a lesson, and give Casey a bit of confidence. | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
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Danjoh
Sweden405 Posts
http://vimeo.com/21020148 | ||
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cromat
Afghanistan100 Posts
bully a victim: white knights on team liquid do nothing | ||
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Thrill
2599 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:53 micronesia wrote: I think we (speaking very generally) have a lot of control over bullying. It is more common in some places than other. Some people do it, others don't. Some make juicy targets, others don't. I'm sure you didn't intend this Mani but I strongly feel we shouldn't write off excessive bullying as a necessary evil although I do admit we can never 100% eradicate it. I question most current efforts to prevent bullying though... at least in places I'm familiar with. I agree - if it's not true for every school (which it isn't) then why should it be for most? Or even some? | ||
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:55 cromat wrote: beat up a bully: white knights on team liquid attacking the victim bully a victim: white knights on team liquid do nothing Has there been a single person defending the bully in this thread? | ||
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Nawyria
Netherlands140 Posts
However, if permanent physical damage did occur, I would not put more blame on him. Many underestimate the effect bullying has on people and the extremes it drives them to. Casey has shown extreme self-restraint not to have snapped earlier and to walk away after dropping the bully. What many seem to have forgotten is the fact that the bulling has most likely already caused permanent psychological damage to Casey. Anything short of life-changing injuries (such as paralysis) suffered by the bully simply does not compare to that. I think my countryman zalz said it very well: On March 15 2011 03:28 zalz wrote: + Show Spoiler + I am sorry but bullying utterly disgusts me and i can easily understand where this Casey kid is coming from. They aren't pokes, they aren't small things, stuff like that literally shatters your self worth as someone continually invades your personal space and if you do shit back people will blame you. You don't just lose self worth, people will look down on you aswell for letting it happen. Bullying isn't beating someone up, it's not calling someone names, it can be as small as poking someone all the time or as harmless as constantly shouting a persons name in an annoying voice as he walks by. If you ask "what did they do?" what can you tell people? They said my name in an annoying voice? Even though you yourself know that every time they do that you hate yourself more and more, to others it seems small and insignificant. ... The truth is that if someone tries to bully you, it's not going to stop until you beat them and you beat them up good. What this kid did was nothing compared to what they must have done to him. That kid is going to feel pain for a day or two big fucking deal. The other kid is going to still feel like shit and he probably will for a long time after that bully has long forgotten his name. Physical pain is a joke compared to having no feeling of self-worth left. You know a broken leg is going to heal but you don't know if you are ever going to consider yourself worth something. Hope that kid is left with a permanent scar or something, altough then he would still be getting off better. | ||
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O-ops
United States4236 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:56 Hynda wrote: Has there been a single person defending the bully in this thread? That's why it says white knights do nothing. | ||
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Danjoh
Sweden405 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:56 Hynda wrote: Has there been a single person defending the bully in this thread? A few have have several times. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27179 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:53 micronesia wrote: I think we (speaking very generally) have a lot of control over bullying. It is more common in some places than other. Some people do it, others don't. Some make juicy targets, others don't. I'm sure you didn't intend this Mani but I strongly feel we shouldn't write off excessive bullying as a necessary evil although I do admit we can never 100% eradicate it. I question most current efforts to prevent bullying though... at least in places I'm familiar with. I wasn't condoning anything. I just mean that 41 second clip shows more than one incident. Through Casey's body language it shows an entire life of ugly incidents, frustrated tears to his parents, the dread of going to a school that feels like a prison day after day... The whole history is there, plain to see in that 41 seconds. But bullying will never go away, because it is a fundamental part of social development that happens regardless of gender or society. It is a painful, frustrating thing, but in the end you hope people grow out of it with nothing more than a bruised shin. | ||
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NexUmbra
Scotland3776 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:54 Danjoh wrote: TF2 remix, better than the zangief remix imo =) http://vimeo.com/21020148 LOL that was amazing! People saying we need more info, look at casey, obviously not wanting to do anything and then theres rat boy showing off in front of his friends g.g. | ||
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TreDawg
41 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:42 HotKimchi wrote: At that age you know not to pick on people. Parents are suppose to teach you to respect others. Kids choose to disobey and prey on people. While Casey was defending himself with a potentially deadly move. He was still defending himself. I don't expect Casey to have an extensive martial arts background. Do you? I couldn't agree more that it isn't Casey's fault. I was never arguing that. In fact, I'm outraged that he got suspended at all. I was saying that the children who do get hit by cars while playing in traffic and do kill themselves while trying to show off with their Dad's pistol do, in fact, deserve it. It's natural selection pure and simple. If they were dumb enough to do that in the first place then they deserve whatever consequence those actions might bring. By that age they know it's incorrect behavior but they do it anyway. Doing something you know is wrong and dangerous and not expecting the worst to happen is foolish at pretty much any age past like 5 or 6. | ||
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:57 Nawyria wrote: I think the punishment dished out by the school was fair, if it is indeed correct that Casey got suspended for 4 days and his tormentor for 3 weeks. If this thing has been going on for some time, it's only right that bully should be on the more serious end of the punishment. On the other hand, while you can't fault Casey for standing up to his nemeses, his actions could indeed have caused permanent physical damage to the bully. However, if permanent physical damage did occur, I would not put more blame on him. Many underestimate the effect bullying has on people and the extremes it drives them to. Casey has shown extreme self-restraint not to have snapped earlier and to walk away after dropping the bully. What many seem to have forgotten is the fact that the bulling has most likely already caused permanent psychological damage to Casey. Anything short of life-changing injuries (such as paralysis) suffered by the bully simply does not compare to that. I think my countryman zalz said it very well: I'm still suffering from being bullied, I can't maintain a relationship without constant confirmation, I've been to counceling for years because I couldn't maintain selfworth for longer than 5 minutes forcing myself to constantly be active and alot of other issues from being bullied, I know for sure I would feel a hell of alot worse if I had killed the guy or scarred him for life. I grew up, most bullys have their own issues, and most of them can turn out to be decent people if they get the help they need. | ||
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allecto
328 Posts
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
On March 15 2011 07:03 TreDawg wrote: Should we kill of everyone with a retardation, disease or are born with any kind of malfunction? I mean that if anything would be natural selection.I couldn't agree more that it isn't Casey's fault. I was never arguing that. In fact, I'm outraged that he got suspended at all. I was saying that the children who do get hit by cars while playing in traffic and do kill themselves while trying to show off with their Dad's pistol do, in fact, deserve it. It's natural selection pure and simple. If they were dumb enough to do that in the first place then they deserve whatever consequence those actions might bring. By that age they know it's incorrect behavior but they do it anyway. Doing something you know is wrong and dangerous and not expecting the worst to happen is foolish at pretty much any age past like 5 or 6. | ||
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Manifesto7
Osaka27179 Posts
On March 15 2011 07:03 TreDawg wrote: I couldn't agree more that it isn't Casey's fault. I was never arguing that. In fact, I'm outraged that he got suspended at all. I was saying that the children who do get hit by cars while playing in traffic and do kill themselves while trying to show off with their Dad's pistol do, in fact, deserve it. It's natural selection pure and simple. If they were dumb enough to do that in the first place then they deserve whatever consequence those actions might bring. By that age they know it's incorrect behavior but they do it anyway. Doing something you know is wrong and dangerous and not expecting the worst to happen is foolish at pretty much any age past like 5 or 6. This is a pretty silly statement. People do things without imagining the consequences all the time, and later reflect on how poor a decision it was. Nobody goes through a mental checklist of possible consequences before doing anything. That is why we call them accidents. It has nothing to do with natural selection. | ||
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