EPTThe case of the bullied kid Casey - Page 22
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Note: a number of sources are saying that Beast Master Casey has been suspended for 4 days and that the rat boy was suspended for 21. Look around for more sources please. | ||
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Br3ezy
United States720 Posts
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TreDawg
41 Posts
On March 15 2011 04:21 Enervate wrote: Who are you people to judge who deserved what? "Street justice" is really pathetic. As long as people do something you agree with, it's justice. That's why street justice is dangerous. If you ever become a minority, street justice would be against you. I'm truly sorry if some of you were bullied and authority failed you. But that doesn't justify anything. A rational thought process should be as follows: Authority fails => attempt to fix authority Not: Authority fails => rebel against authority If authority fails to do their job what other justice is left but street justice? You can only go for so long with authority failing for you to do something other than whine about it cause its clearly not getting fixed. If you were getting punched in the face and authority isn't responding correctly are you just going to let yourself get punched in the face while the bureaucratic solution eventually works its way out? I know I wouldn't. On March 15 2011 04:21 Enervate wrote: Also, when most of you judge the bully, you exhibit fundamental attribution error. You overvalue dispositional explanations and undervalue situational explanations for the bulliles' behavior. You can't assume he's a terrible person, and he definitely doesn't deserve a broken neck no matter what. A huge part of a child's development comes from how they are raised, and you cannot fault a child for that, something he can't control. You can absolutely fault a child for acting like that. Its not like they don't know any better. They do, they just don't care and they can get away with it. How do you know for certain that this bully doesn't deserve to get his neck broken based on this one act? You're assuming that his behavior is not this bad outside of this one instance. I also beg to differ about his potential terribleness as a person. Anyone who does something like this is a terrible person, plain and simple. If all you know about this child is that they bully and attack other children wouldn't the only logical assumption be that they are a terrible person? Without knowing what that child's life is like I don't see how you could come to any other conclusion based on the evidence provided. They know they are hurting someone (which I hope you'd agree is wrong) on purpose, for no good reason. While I agree that you can't hold a child's upbringing against them you can most certainly hold their actions against them. Not all children who are raised in bad households are bad kids and not all children raised in good households are good kids. This kid hit someone and felt only a margin of what the consequences could be for that. He should count himself lucky and use this as a learning experience. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:21 HotKimchi wrote: It's speculation and observation. It adds more to the conversation than LOL IDK. Which is essentially what you are typing. The angle of the punch by the small kid indicates he tried to hit the nasal bone from below, aiming to kill the casey, I don't see how throwing him down is bad. | ||
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:30 JackDino wrote: The angle of the punch by the small kid indicates he tried to hit the nasal bone from below, aiming to kill the casey, I don't see how throwing him down is bad. Congratulations on losing every spec of credibility. | ||
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InsaniaK
Sweden120 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:26 Hynda wrote: No. It's a carbon copy of a very well known move, he lets go of his grip to get into the position to flip him around, he then lifts him and thrust straight down something that isn't natural. The fact that he can't hold the weight of the kid so that he turns over and lands mostly on his side isn't something you can account for, if you did then you wouldn't thrust down. You can argue all you want that this kid reinvented the wheel and sure I can even accept that you want to argue that this guy might in a 1 in a billion way just do that however, that is a move. That isn't a unconnected series of punches, or kicks or any kind of random violent act. Even if in his mind he had never fathomed that this move existed he used it, it's a lethal move and you have to take the consecvences of your actions, even if it is by complete accident. I don't see in any way how you honestly are arguing about this, both of them did the fucking same thing(A move which is potentially killing) one of them had been tormenting the other for ages. See where I'm going? Lets make math of this, so: 1potentially killing move=100 1year of tormenting 50 thus: aprox 100+150(think I saw someone say that it had been going on for ~3 years) 100+0 250-100=150. See what I did thar? | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:26 CaptainFwiffo wrote: Hynda gets it exactly right. Casey was right to defend himself, but wrong to use such excessive force. He's big enough to pick up the other kid like a sack of potatoes. Just tossing the kid aside would have made his point. Turning him head down and doing a piledriver risks seriously injuring, paralyzing or even killing the kid. Even if he's a worthless piece of trash, and a bully, that's not OK. You really think punching would stop the bullies? If anything, that would make them retaliate in a group versus Casey. What would he do then? The bully was unable to exert further use of force after the ground slam (and still alive with minor injuries) and Casey just walked away, where he could have continued hitting him in anger. He showed restraint. His move is completely justified by law. Although, in a school environment, you need to punish any form of violence so that kids don't start beating the crap out of each other. So his suspension is okay. | ||
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Alexson
Belarus293 Posts
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:32 Hynda wrote: Congratulations on losing every spec of credibility. I'm a punching professor, just like HotKimchi is a Bruce Lee professor, good day. | ||
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
Note: a number of sources are saying that Beast Master Casey has been suspended for 4 days and that the rat boy was suspended for 21. Look around for more sources please. Hahaha nice one :D. Kid got what he deserved. He's probably having a huge ego problem now that this is probably going viral though. Whoever taped it and released it was a true friend. | ||
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zJayy962
1363 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:30 JackDino wrote: The angle of the punch by the small kid indicates he tried to hit the nasal bone from below, aiming to kill the casey, I don't see how throwing him down is bad. Pretty sure he was dancing around like Bruce Lee. And we all know how lethal Bruce Lee was. Obvious intent to kill. | ||
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HotKimchi
United States64 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:32 InsaniaK wrote: I don't see in any way how you honestly are arguing about this, both of them did the fucking same thing(A move which is potentially killing) one of them had been tormenting the other for ages. See where I'm going? Lets make math of this, so: 1potentially killing move=100 1year of tormenting 50 thus: aprox 100+150(think I saw someone say that it had been going on for ~3 years) 100+0 250-100=150. See what I did thar? What the fuck did I just read? | ||
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:32 InsaniaK wrote: Yea you used flawed logic, I never once said that what the bully did was justified either.I don't see in any way how you honestly are arguing about this, both of them did the fucking same thing(A move which is potentially killing) one of them had been tormenting the other for ages. See where I'm going? Lets make math of this, so: 1potentially killing move=100 1year of tormenting 50 thus: aprox 100+150(think I saw someone say that it had been going on for ~3 years) 100+0 250-100=150. See what I did thar? | ||
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MidKnight
Lithuania884 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:34 wussleeQ wrote: Hahaha nice one :D. Kid got what he deserved. He's probably having a huge ego problem now that this is probably going viral though. Whoever taped it and released it was a true friend. Yea, I was wondering, since it was bully's friend who taped it, I assume he was the one who uploaded the vid xD | ||
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HotKimchi
United States64 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:33 JackDino wrote: I'm a punching professor, just like HotKimchi is a Bruce Lee professor, good day. Implying that I have said anything historical about Bruce Lee. | ||
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TreDawg
41 Posts
On March 15 2011 04:28 Kniwom wrote: If a kid plays in traffic, and gets hit by a car, did he deserve it? If a kid shoots himself in the head while playing with his father's gun, did he deserve it? Not really, the blame lies on his parents for not teaching him that it is dangerous and irresponsible. A kid punches and teases someone 3 times their size until the guy snaps and breaks their neck... did the kid deserve it, probably not. It is his parent's fault for raising him to believe that that kind of behavior is acceptable. The blame cannot be put on Casey. All of that is assuming that the child didn't know any better. How do you know that they didn't consciously know that what they were doing was wrong and dangerous but did it anyway? | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:37 TreDawg wrote: All of that is assuming that the child didn't know any better. How do you know that they didn't consciously know that what they were doing was wrong and dangerous but did it anyway? His point was, the blame cannot be put on Casey. Your argument doesn't change this in any way. | ||
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Alexson
Belarus293 Posts
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InsaniaK
Sweden120 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:35 Hynda wrote: Yea you used flawed logic, I never once said that what the bully did was justified either. Then how the fuck are we arguing about this? | ||
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Aphasie
Norway474 Posts
No way the kids neck could have snapped. And even if it did, if you play with fire you'll get burnt. If someone attacks you, you can defend yourself with the means at your disposal. If you pick a fight, you'd better accept the consequences. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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