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On March 15 2011 05:58 Imbajoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 05:55 Hynda wrote:On March 15 2011 05:51 FabledIntegral wrote:On March 15 2011 05:49 Hynda wrote:On March 15 2011 05:42 cromat wrote:
you're right. casey should have thought about his actions while getting punched some more, then punch him in precise spots so that the bully isn't hurt, then get wailed on by 2 other guys at the same time and probably get wrecked and suspended again, then bullied for the rest of his school year after his suspension.
i don't know how you guys can white knight the bully, since he's been bullying the kid for a few years. Which is ofcourse nothing like what I said. I have no respect or any kind of pity for the bully at all. I can understand the reaction, it still doesn't make it right. If your wife hits you, you wouldn't kill her and go "Oh well, completly justified because she was a bitch". I don't blame him in the slightest for his reaction, that doesn't mean he shouldn't be held accountable for it. What you do doesn't get negated just because you do it to an asshole. If this guy had snapped and brought a gun to school and shot the bully in the head do you really think people would go "LOLS BOOM HEADSHOT"? On the contrary, if the husband had been smacking the wife, and hit her in the face, and there was a long, drawn out history of abuse, and she didn't attempt to kill the husband but instead threw him to the ground when he was off balance and he ended up smashing his head against the counter... was the woman in the wrong? I think not. Which ofcourse would be manslaughter, but still that wasn't what happened. The diffrence is that pushing someone that accidently hits their head and aiming for it. If he had just picked the kid up and thrown him at the floor and he hit his head, then sure your comparison would work. But he didn't. Or did he...? Regardless of intent he aimed the guys skull towards the pavment and thrust down. If it was just a move from TV or something more sinister is beside the point. Your actions have consecvences.
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Those girls standing around laughing should be suspended too and that arsehole at the end. If you are put in a position where you have to defend yourself, do it, and do it BIG. Good on you Casey; I just hope rat boy and his friends don't look for payback sometime.
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On March 15 2011 05:55 Hynda wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 05:51 FabledIntegral wrote:On March 15 2011 05:49 Hynda wrote:On March 15 2011 05:42 cromat wrote:
you're right. casey should have thought about his actions while getting punched some more, then punch him in precise spots so that the bully isn't hurt, then get wailed on by 2 other guys at the same time and probably get wrecked and suspended again, then bullied for the rest of his school year after his suspension.
i don't know how you guys can white knight the bully, since he's been bullying the kid for a few years. Which is ofcourse nothing like what I said. I have no respect or any kind of pity for the bully at all. I can understand the reaction, it still doesn't make it right. If your wife hits you, you wouldn't kill her and go "Oh well, completly justified because she was a bitch". I don't blame him in the slightest for his reaction, that doesn't mean he shouldn't be held accountable for it. What you do doesn't get negated just because you do it to an asshole. If this guy had snapped and brought a gun to school and shot the bully in the head do you really think people would go "LOLS BOOM HEADSHOT"? On the contrary, if the husband had been smacking the wife, and hit her in the face, and there was a long, drawn out history of abuse, and she didn't attempt to kill the husband but instead threw him to the ground when he was off balance and he ended up smashing his head against the counter... was the woman in the wrong? I think not. Which ofcourse would be manslaughter, but still that wasn't what happened. The diffrence is that pushing someone that accidently hits their head and aiming for it. If he had just picked the kid up and thrown him at the floor and he hit his head, then sure your comparison would work. But he didn't.
In such a case I don't believe it would be manslaughter. It would be considered self-defense. They might prosecute her for it, but I doubt she'd get convicted. And did we watch a different movie? That's exactly what happened from what I saw. He just picked the kid up and threw him down at the floor, where he hit his head, then walked away.
EDIT: He didn't even "aim" his head at the floor, Casey couldn't even really see what was happening when you look at the video, and the kid while landing partially on his neck landed for the most part completely horizontally.
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Note: a number of sources are saying that Beast Master Casey has been suspended for 4 days and that the rat boy was suspended for 21. Look around for more sources please.
LOLOLOLOL love it.
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That little shit needed to learn that actions have consequenses, some people just need to learn the hard way.
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They may have suspended him for his own protection. I know if I were in his shoes I'd be a bit paranoid the next day at school wondering if there will be any retaliation while emotions are still running high.
I don't think the suspension is something to worry about tbh. Who cares. He got in a fight, irregardless of the circumstances and needs to be punished. The type of punishment is what should be determined by the circumstances and in this case they are appropriate.
Why should an exception be made to him? If they make an exception for him then all of a sudden it becomes OK for people being bullied to retaliate violently. That's wrong. They HAVE to punish him or it sends the wrong message out. Put away the white knight/animal instinct/fight or flight response and think like a human for once.
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On March 15 2011 05:59 TallMax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 05:18 Centorian wrote:
I was tortured in grade school. I never snapped. I held it in. I continued to be tortured in high school. I never snapped. I held it in.
Wish I hadn't.
It makes me angry even now.
I'd fucking kill those kids if I could go back in time and do it.
Kill them and shit on their faces.
What this kid did is justified. Fuck bullies. If you've been tortured in this way, you'd understand.
Hopefully I don't get in trouble for this post. Just things like this really bring me back. Good for this kid. I hope the bully suffers, should have dropped him harder.
-Cent Have to say I'm somewhat in the same camp as you. Dealt with the same shit, never really stood up for myself. One time was sweet, and I think you'd appreciate this story. I was the only freshman in a drafting class in high-school, and I used to have long hair. A couple of idiot sophomores felt like throwing tape in my hair from the desks behind me when the teacher wasn't looking. But, one of the seniors on the football/wrestling/baseball (not one of them, he played all of those) saw them doing it. Calmly walked over to them and started talking to them. Told the one who was actually throwing shit to apologize. He didn't. Teacher not looking. Bam! Fucking windup punch right to the arm. "Say you're sorry" Nothin. Bam! "Say you're sorry." ..."Sorry" That guy was my fuckin hero. Though, I was still too shy to really thank him for it. But, I figured you might appreciate that story.
Great story, really, warms my heart when I hear stories of people breaking the norm (seriously, it's a travesty that so many people are willing to stand by idly while bullying occurs) to do what he knows is right.
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What a little fucking bitch. When I was in elementary school I used to have groups of those little fuckers ganging up on me, puching and kicking and shit. Then I grew like 7 feet, and all the sudden I was throwing them just the same as the guy in the video. Luckily for me, up here in Canadia, we always had a convenient layer of snow. I was never one for punching, leaves too much evidence.
EDIT: I wasn't strong enough to lift them like machamp though, lol. Probably a tad excessive, but I can definitely understand where he's coming from. When you're powerless, the second you discover some power, you go for it and don't look back.
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On March 15 2011 06:01 couches wrote:
They may have suspended him for his own protection. I know if I were in his shoes I'd be a bit paranoid the next day at school wondering if there will be any retaliation while emotions are still running high.
I don't think the suspension is something to worry about tbh. Who cares. He got in a fight, irregardless of the circumstances and needs to be punished. The type of punishment is what should be determined by the circumstances and in this case they are appropriate.
Why should an exception be made to him? If they make an exception for him then all of a sudden it becomes OK for people being bullied to retaliate violently. That's wrong. They HAVE to punish him or it sends the wrong message out. Put away the white knight/animal instinct/fight or flight response and think like a human for once.
it's ok for people being bullied to retaliate violently as long as its ok for bullying to happen. you defend the action of the school and condemn the actions of casey but why aren't you condemning the bullying?
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That little piece of shit totally deserved what was coming for him.
The bully was the one that went too far and anything that happens is entirely his fault.
It's completely disgusting that school officials are promoting behaviour like that by punishing the victim, and not punishing the other idiots involved in the bullying. Such backwards reaction(not to mention they likely had years to do something about the matter) is the reason bullying exists at all and the school officials themselves need to be punished, since they allow it to happen.
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On March 15 2011 05:25 matjlav wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 05:18 FabledIntegral wrote:On March 15 2011 05:03 matjlav wrote:On March 15 2011 04:58 andrewlt wrote:On March 15 2011 04:56 matjlav wrote:On March 15 2011 04:54 Kishuu wrote:
okay, we must have different definitions of harmless. Why do all bullies deserve their necks snapped again?
This is what I mean when I say people in TL started to talk like lawyers. And stupid ones at that. Seriously, when did he said all bullies deserve their necks to be snapped? On March 15 2011 03:50 sc4k wrote:
Faggot little child deserved a broken neck, as do all bullies. Yes, I'm twisting the truth so heavily Attributing the quote of the guy you responded to to everybody else who responded to you isn't twisting the truth so heavily? Sorry, if you jump into an argument whose crux was whether bullies deserve to have their necks broken in defense of the "pro" position without specifying that you don't agree with that person, I'm going to assume that you agree with them. Are you telling me if someone punched you in the face, and then kept smacking you around after that, for no reason other than pure enjoyment, you would be "in the wrong" for throwing that fucker to the ground, even if it might possibly break his neck? There's a difference between a kid calling someone "fatso" and a kid constantly harassing another one, then assaulting him, which was clearly the case seen in the video. I would think the kid would have deserved it if he broke both a leg and an arm. And you can't say he didn't have it coming to him if he became a parapalegic for life. This wasn't a "one-time" thing where he might have messed up, this was a reoccurring incident of constant bullying that culminated with him trying to get his friends to record the event for shits and giggles. That shit is enough to scar someone for life, and if someone was going to have to be troubled for life, I would much rather it be the skinny little shit than Casey. meh i've been through this. you're ridiculously bloodthirsty and i'm really glad we don't base our juvenille legal system off of your views. for the record, i don't blame Casey for a second for what he did. but I think that in no way does textbook schoolyard bullying justify lifelong impairment as a punishment.
It would be sad if the bully got lifelong impairment, but it would be an example to the others who would try to bully: Picking a fight has consequences. Either step away, or get ready to face them.
Also, Casey had no intention to continue hitting the kid after he threw him to the ground. With just a single move, he prevented any other further attacks and walked away. That is self defence by the law, and it is right.
If he shot him with a gun, or continued hitting afterwards (even in this case you can't deny that people in that position may not control their anger and excitement, which he actually did), or he got a baseball bat and shoved that right into his face, that would in no way would be self defence.
Casey used enough force to repel the attack (the kid was unable to continue his attacks and still alive without severe injuries). He did not continue fighting after his use of force and left the area. His move was a response to the unlawful use of force by an assailant. That is textbook self-defence.
J/K: Hail Casey, the Champion of Capua!
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That little bully probably learned his lesson. Luckily, he walked away with just a sore back and not a broken neck.
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On March 15 2011 05:59 FabledIntegral wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 05:55 Hynda wrote:On March 15 2011 05:51 FabledIntegral wrote:On March 15 2011 05:49 Hynda wrote:On March 15 2011 05:42 cromat wrote:
you're right. casey should have thought about his actions while getting punched some more, then punch him in precise spots so that the bully isn't hurt, then get wailed on by 2 other guys at the same time and probably get wrecked and suspended again, then bullied for the rest of his school year after his suspension.
i don't know how you guys can white knight the bully, since he's been bullying the kid for a few years. Which is ofcourse nothing like what I said. I have no respect or any kind of pity for the bully at all. I can understand the reaction, it still doesn't make it right. If your wife hits you, you wouldn't kill her and go "Oh well, completly justified because she was a bitch". I don't blame him in the slightest for his reaction, that doesn't mean he shouldn't be held accountable for it. What you do doesn't get negated just because you do it to an asshole. If this guy had snapped and brought a gun to school and shot the bully in the head do you really think people would go "LOLS BOOM HEADSHOT"? On the contrary, if the husband had been smacking the wife, and hit her in the face, and there was a long, drawn out history of abuse, and she didn't attempt to kill the husband but instead threw him to the ground when he was off balance and he ended up smashing his head against the counter... was the woman in the wrong? I think not. Which ofcourse would be manslaughter, but still that wasn't what happened. The diffrence is that pushing someone that accidently hits their head and aiming for it. If he had just picked the kid up and thrown him at the floor and he hit his head, then sure your comparison would work. But he didn't. In such a case I don't believe it would be manslaughter. It would be considered self-defense. They might prosecute her for it, but I doubt she'd get convicted. And did we watch a different movie? That's exactly what happened from what I saw. He just picked the kid up and threw him down at the floor, where he hit his head, then walked away. EDIT: He didn't even "aim" his head at the floor, Casey couldn't even really see what was happening when you look at the video, and the kid while landing partially on his neck landed for the most part completely horizontally. The reason he lands on his side is because casey isn't strong enough. Watch it again, he looks for the grip that lets him turn him upside down, he then thrusts downwards, not outwards. That means that intentional or just copying some move of the tele the entire point of that move is to make someone land on their head/neck. The fact that he fails to do so is great, the fact that he stands up to his bully is great, the fact that his bully now is humiliated at youtube is great, I'm not faulting him for using something in the spur of the moment, but you still need to teach your kids that using potentialy lethal moves in a fight isn't ok.
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A part of me wishes i had done something similar some time between 6th and 10th grade.
Alas, i didn't. And part of the bullies moved or went abroad for a time. The remaining guys didn't think they had enough numerical superiority left, i guess.
Touches me to see this. Videotaping this shit wasn't up when i was in school; came up later when was in 12 or 13th with the rise of video mobiles. Little monsters made a "sport" of it called happy slapping.
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On March 15 2011 06:01 couches wrote:
They may have suspended him for his own protection. I know if I were in his shoes I'd be a bit paranoid the next day at school wondering if there will be any retaliation while emotions are still running high.
I don't think the suspension is something to worry about tbh. Who cares. He got in a fight, irregardless of the circumstances and needs to be punished. The type of punishment is what should be determined by the circumstances and in this case they are appropriate.
Why should an exception be made to him? If they make an exception for him then all of a sudden it becomes OK for people being bullied to retaliate violently. That's wrong. They HAVE to punish him or it sends the wrong message out. Put away the white knight/animal instinct/fight or flight response and think like a human for once.
idc how it's wrong for someone being verbally and physically abused(getting hit in the face for one) make it stop when nobody else makes an effort to.
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On March 15 2011 06:09 Hynda wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 05:59 FabledIntegral wrote:On March 15 2011 05:55 Hynda wrote:On March 15 2011 05:51 FabledIntegral wrote:On March 15 2011 05:49 Hynda wrote:On March 15 2011 05:42 cromat wrote:
you're right. casey should have thought about his actions while getting punched some more, then punch him in precise spots so that the bully isn't hurt, then get wailed on by 2 other guys at the same time and probably get wrecked and suspended again, then bullied for the rest of his school year after his suspension.
i don't know how you guys can white knight the bully, since he's been bullying the kid for a few years. Which is ofcourse nothing like what I said. I have no respect or any kind of pity for the bully at all. I can understand the reaction, it still doesn't make it right. If your wife hits you, you wouldn't kill her and go "Oh well, completly justified because she was a bitch". I don't blame him in the slightest for his reaction, that doesn't mean he shouldn't be held accountable for it. What you do doesn't get negated just because you do it to an asshole. If this guy had snapped and brought a gun to school and shot the bully in the head do you really think people would go "LOLS BOOM HEADSHOT"? On the contrary, if the husband had been smacking the wife, and hit her in the face, and there was a long, drawn out history of abuse, and she didn't attempt to kill the husband but instead threw him to the ground when he was off balance and he ended up smashing his head against the counter... was the woman in the wrong? I think not. Which ofcourse would be manslaughter, but still that wasn't what happened. The diffrence is that pushing someone that accidently hits their head and aiming for it. If he had just picked the kid up and thrown him at the floor and he hit his head, then sure your comparison would work. But he didn't. In such a case I don't believe it would be manslaughter. It would be considered self-defense. They might prosecute her for it, but I doubt she'd get convicted. And did we watch a different movie? That's exactly what happened from what I saw. He just picked the kid up and threw him down at the floor, where he hit his head, then walked away. EDIT: He didn't even "aim" his head at the floor, Casey couldn't even really see what was happening when you look at the video, and the kid while landing partially on his neck landed for the most part completely horizontally. The reason he lands on his side is because casey isn't strong enough. Watch it again, he looks for the grip that lets him turn him upside down, he then thrusts downwards, not outwards. That means that intentional or just copying some move of the tele the entire point of that move is to make someone land on their head/neck. The fact that he fails to do so is great, the fact that he stands up to his bully is great, the fact that his bully now is humiliated at youtube is great, I'm not faulting him for using something in the spur of the moment, but you still need to teach your kids that using potentialy lethal moves in a fight isn't ok.
wtf are u bruce lee or some shit? how are u possibly able to read the intent of what his throw is, jeesh
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Reminded me of one of Zangief's moves from SF. Great job!
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Why is not ok for people being bullied to retaliate violently? That would definitely curb the amount of bullying.
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On March 15 2011 04:40 FJ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 04:30 FreddYCooL wrote:On March 15 2011 04:26 FJ wrote:
There was this one kid in my school that was bullied often. He didn't really have any friends, and didn't do too well in school. He was a keen basket ball player though.
It was 3 guys that used to bully him. Most of the ids in school knew it went on, but never did a thing about it, we just let it happen.
One day these three bullies decided to beat him up again, after school. The three kids bragged about what they where going to do, and we all knew it was going to be worse than usual, but we didn't say anything. So on this day, the victim was outside playing basket ball on his own, as per usual. Then the three kids beat him up.
After wards we never saw him again, he just went somewhere. Rumors spread around about what had happened, but we never knew for sure. We think his mom sent him to stay with family in another town, hopefully to a better life. WTF? How the hell could not a single person at your school intervene? Why didnt you just tell a teacher or something? That persons life is possibly ruined because you didnt care enough to stop it. I don't know. I guess at the time we didn't tried not to think about it, I suppose we thought if we told a teacher, we would be next. Will I think his name was, I don't think he told the teachers either.
If that guy is from west philly then I know him too, don't worry hes doing ok now, I see him every year or so.
On topic though, I got slugged in the face once while I wasnt expecting it, first thing i remember was throwing the guy onto the road into traffic, the rest is just a haze, so dont give me this analysis and proper response bullshit untill you get slugged in the face first and hard.
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