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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
Schnullerbacke13
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1199 Posts
March 13 2011 11:59 GMT
#1881
given the number of completely erased villages, I would estimate 20000+ casualties (in case fujushima can be controled). besides coastal regions, there will be casualties from stuff dropping randomly down to the street, however buildings have been surprisingly resistant.
21 is half the truth
Schnullerbacke13
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1199 Posts
March 13 2011 12:06 GMT
#1882
On March 13 2011 20:57 Badboyrune wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 20:41 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
according to "Der Spiegel", 2 reactors most probably have had a partial meltdown. Reactor 3 is out of control, because of a valve failure, pressure is increasing without control. 6 of 10 reactors are without cooling, radiation 400 times of normal has been measured 100 km away of fukushima .. -.-


Did they have any sources for this, because the bbc expert seemed to be of a quite different opinion?


Nope, however "der spiegel" has a wide spread insiders network and in the last 20 years it was right 99% of the times, its not rainbow press.
I really don't know, i think the atom-lobby is belittling, the environmentals are hyping .. at least the massive increase of radiation ~100 km away indicates there has been some serious issues ..
I think they won't have a 35 million people mass panic. The company driving the plant officially said that levels of radiation are "above" levels of normal operation, but they did not made any more detailed statement regarding the amount of radiation.
21 is half the truth
sqrt
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1210 Posts
March 13 2011 12:06 GMT
#1883
Temperatures were to dip near freezing overnight, but the prime minister warned that electricity would not be restored for days.

Trade Minister Banri Kaeda said the region was likely to face further blackouts and that power would be rationed to ensure supplies go to essential needs.

The government says it has sent 120,000 blankets, 120,000 bottles of water and 110,000 liters of gasoline in addition to bread, rice balls, instant cup noodles and diapers to the affected areas.

Large areas of the countryside remained surrounded by water and unreachable. Fuel stations were closed and people were running out of gasoline for their vehicles.

The government said 275,000 people have been evacuated to emergency shelters, many of them without power.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_bi_ge/as_japan_earthquake
@
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
March 13 2011 12:07 GMT
#1884
On March 13 2011 20:57 Badboyrune wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 20:41 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
according to "Der Spiegel", 2 reactors most probably have had a partial meltdown. Reactor 3 is out of control, because of a valve failure, pressure is increasing without control. 6 of 10 reactors are without cooling, radiation 400 times of normal has been measured 100 km away of fukushima .. -.-


Did they have any sources for this, because the bbc expert seemed to be of a quite different opinion?


NHK news (and the Japanese cabinet minister who is answering the press questions/giving briefings) agrees with Der Spiegel. Since NHK is one of the main Japanese news sources. I'd say the bbc expert is probably not well versed on the situation.
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
March 13 2011 12:13 GMT
#1885
On March 13 2011 15:47 dump wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 15:41 kaisen wrote:
Does anyone know why Japan refused a help from china and only specifically requested help from USA, South Korea, New Zealand, UK, and Austrailia?

I'm guessing it has something to do with politics, but damn, accept all the help you can get, japan!


NHK says there's help from China. On the other hand I'm hearing they're rejecting Canadian help despite them being on standby within hours of the event.

I don't know what's going on on that front, but I suspect the media could also be playing a role in being selective.


I think because all these help has a "price tag" behind them. I don't remember which incident, but apperently a Country came out saying why they rejected a particular offer due to unreasonable price tag.

Reason we don't know the price tag because non want to announce it in a public statement, it just makes them look bad.

Correct me if i'm wrong.
Leenock the Punisher
monkh
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom568 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-13 12:43:50
March 13 2011 12:17 GMT
#1886
Mod Edit: Stop posting this

Found this on the internet, how are people so retarded hurts my head. If you find yourself even coming close to agreeing with these people in this, google bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
Daeden.620
sqrt
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1210 Posts
March 13 2011 12:19 GMT
#1887
On March 13 2011 21:17 monkh wrote:
---no----

Found this on the internet, how are people so retarded hurts my head. If you find yourself even coming close to agreeing with these people in this, google bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki


Look above, see mod warning.
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Schnullerbacke13
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1199 Posts
March 13 2011 12:21 GMT
#1888
some background about "Der Spiegel":

It is not commercial driven its kind a "communtiy"-enterprise, the writers and journalists actually are stakeholders of the company, so they have been quite independent in the past. This does not mean they are not hyping and everything is right, however if the BBC and "Der Spiegel" disagree i would not trust BBC more than "Der Spiegel" (of course not vice versa :-) ).
21 is half the truth
Hugoboss21
Profile Joined June 2009
France346 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-13 12:44:03
March 13 2011 12:23 GMT
#1889
On March 13 2011 21:17 monkh wrote:
-------

Found this on the internet, how are people so retarded hurts my head. If you find yourself even coming close to agreeing with these people in this, google bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki


Wow ppl are that fucking retarded?
In order to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe. --Carl Sagan
WindOw
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden407 Posts
March 13 2011 12:25 GMT
#1890
On March 13 2011 21:23 Hugoboss21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 21:17 monkh wrote:
http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/9927/1299910429353.jpg

Found this on the internet, how are people so retarded hurts my head. If you find yourself even coming close to agreeing with these people in this, google bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki


Wow ppl are that fucking retarded?


serious retardness.
AKA WindOw[InCa] (BW) | TheMisT (SC2) | NaNiwa FC founder
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-13 12:28:19
March 13 2011 12:28 GMT
#1891
On March 13 2011 21:06 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 20:57 Badboyrune wrote:
On March 13 2011 20:41 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
according to "Der Spiegel", 2 reactors most probably have had a partial meltdown. Reactor 3 is out of control, because of a valve failure, pressure is increasing without control. 6 of 10 reactors are without cooling, radiation 400 times of normal has been measured 100 km away of fukushima .. -.-


Did they have any sources for this, because the bbc expert seemed to be of a quite different opinion?


Nope, however "der spiegel" has a wide spread insiders network and in the last 20 years it was right 99% of the times, its not rainbow press.
I really don't know, i think the atom-lobby is belittling, the environmentals are hyping .. at least the massive increase of radiation ~100 km away indicates there has been some serious issues ..
I think they won't have a 35 million people mass panic. The company driving the plant officially said that levels of radiation are "above" levels of normal operation, but they did not made any more detailed statement regarding the amount of radiation.

Did you know that the company taking care of the power plants has a history of lying about the safety of their nuclear power plants, from like 1980s all the way to 2000's?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
March 13 2011 12:29 GMT
#1892
On March 13 2011 21:23 Hugoboss21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 21:17 monkh wrote:
http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/9927/1299910429353.jpg

Found this on the internet, how are people so retarded hurts my head. If you find yourself even coming close to agreeing with these people in this, google bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki


Wow ppl are that fucking retarded?


short answer: yes.

Back on topic: I am pretty sure US military will be giving a lot of humanitarian aid to Japan. A lot of the pacific assigned units should be helping Japan out as much as possible. I know here in Korea they are talking about possibly helping them out with their reactor/radiation problem
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1692 Posts
March 13 2011 12:31 GMT
#1893
I pray to god that reports of a meltdown are incorrect
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
March 13 2011 12:32 GMT
#1894
The thread title says 9.0 magnitute quake, while local news said 8.9.
Is 9.0 rounded?
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
March 13 2011 12:33 GMT
#1895
this whole thing just makes me want to cry. sigh
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
bananbuske
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland1 Post
March 13 2011 12:34 GMT
#1896
OMFG! This Is gods way to punish the japanize for pearl harbor!

User was banned for this post.
OHH SHEET
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
March 13 2011 12:34 GMT
#1897
On March 13 2011 21:29 Silentness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 21:23 Hugoboss21 wrote:
On March 13 2011 21:17 monkh wrote:
http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/9927/1299910429353.jpg

Found this on the internet, how are people so retarded hurts my head. If you find yourself even coming close to agreeing with these people in this, google bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki


Wow ppl are that fucking retarded?


short answer: yes.

Back on topic: I am pretty sure US military will be giving a lot of humanitarian aid to Japan. A lot of the pacific assigned units should be helping Japan out as much as possible. I know here in Korea they are talking about possibly helping them out with their reactor/radiation problem


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fanta[Rn]
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Japan2465 Posts
March 13 2011 12:34 GMT
#1898
no it's not rounded. it was updated to 9
Schnullerbacke13
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1199 Posts
March 13 2011 12:37 GMT
#1899
On March 13 2011 21:23 Hugoboss21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 21:17 monkh wrote:
http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/9927/1299910429353.jpg

Found this on the internet, how are people so retarded hurts my head. If you find yourself even coming close to agreeing with these people in this, google bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki


Wow ppl are that fucking retarded?


Well, there are retards everywhere in the world .. its not an american phenomenon, however sometimes i tend to believe they just have gotten a higher percentage of that . We should not forget that americans always are one of the first nations offering substantial help, saved europe from fascist germans. There is light and dark ..
21 is half the truth
Gingerninja
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1339 Posts
March 13 2011 12:39 GMT
#1900
On March 13 2011 20:31 Niton wrote:
Shinmoedake, a volcano at the southern tip of Japan, has begun erupting. It doesn't seem to be severe, but it definitely creates the image that at this point the gods just installed a new version of Sim City and are fucking with us.

That was 2 months ago, not long into January that went off, erupted constantly for about a week. Took 3 days for any of the papers here to give a shit (I live in Japan)
Anything reporting this now is even slower than the hilariously slow Japanese media. Anyone kicking it around twitter is scaremongering and just trolling.
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