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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1893 Posts
March 14 2011 02:45 GMT
#2081
DJ: Japan Edano: Low Chance Of Major Radiation After Explosion
DJ: Japan Edano: Fukushima Officials Say Reactor Container Likely Undamaged
patyrykin.net
Avaloch
Profile Joined August 2010
241 Posts
March 14 2011 02:46 GMT
#2082
On March 14 2011 11:38 iPood wrote:
it was 8.9 not 9 lol.

Stop being retarded and actually read or watch the news? The Japanese authorities have upgraded the rating of the complex earthquake after re-analysing videos and data gathered.
ZombiesOMG
Profile Joined October 2010
United States282 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 02:47:28
March 14 2011 02:46 GMT
#2083
On March 14 2011 11:44 Rus_Brain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 11:42 Nagisama wrote:
On March 14 2011 11:38 iPood wrote:
it was 8.9 not 9 lol.


somewhere in the thread it was stated 9.0 was Japan's estimate? whereas 8.9 was the U.S estimate. not 100% sure, but both numbers have been stated, just depends which source you use.
It is 9.0
U use outdates source. Dow Jones with refs to Japan authorities (lots of) --> 9.0


Yeah, also I remember CalTech/USGS in a press conference friday afternoon saying that Japan has the most technologically advanced earthquake detection gear in the world. I'd bet Japan's estimate is the correct one: 9.0.
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 02:49:06
March 14 2011 02:48 GMT
#2084
On March 14 2011 11:44 Rus_Brain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 11:43 dump wrote:
On March 14 2011 11:41 Rus_Brain wrote:
DJ: Wind Blowing From South To North Around Reactor - Kyodo
DJ: Tokyo Metroplitan Govt Orders To Measure Radiation Levels In Tokyo - Kyodo


I hate to get political, but before anyone panics, it's probably worth noting that the Tokyo mayor is notorious for fear mongering.
explosions of hydrogen at reactor do not seem ok for me


The reactor has not yet exploded, so measurements right now will yield nothing. Hydrogen is used for cooling.

Tokyo is like 300-400 km south of the reactors.

And the wind is blowing north.
AntiLegend
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany247 Posts
March 14 2011 02:49 GMT
#2085
the footage isn't very clear, but the damage to reactor 3 looks much worse than reactor 1
arQ
Profile Joined October 2010
1033 Posts
March 14 2011 02:51 GMT
#2086
A very good blog post about the nuclear incidents in Japan. This is NOT a "new Chernobyl". People can honestly be smarter than Greenpeace try out to be.

http://depletedcranium.com/this-is-our-generations-three-mile-island-lets-not-screw-it-up/
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randommuch
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States370 Posts
March 14 2011 02:51 GMT
#2087
On March 13 2011 21:34 bananbuske wrote:
OMFG! This Is gods way to punish the japanize for pearl harbor!

User was banned for this post.

Thank god for that ban.

My Japanese teacher has been crying in class these past few days =(
apparently a couple of her friends died back home.
Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food." Genesis 1:29
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
March 14 2011 02:55 GMT
#2088
On March 14 2011 11:34 CanucksJC wrote:
what's this i hear about a volcano erupting somewhere?


theres a volcano that went active since the beginning of feb. the recent earthquake caused another major eruption of it.

crazy vid of its first burst last month

starleague forever
chocopan
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan986 Posts
March 14 2011 02:59 GMT
#2089
BTW someone has probably already said this but, if you are in Japan and a native-English speaker or anyway, NHK has a free iphone app which streams the NHK English news stream 24/7. It's the simplest way to get the fastest info in English. The app name is "NHK WORLD TV Live".
Dance those ultras
Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1893 Posts
March 14 2011 03:02 GMT
#2090
DJ: Workers At Fukushima Nuke Plant Injured In Explosion - Tepco
patyrykin.net
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 14 2011 03:03 GMT
#2091
every time there's new news I freak out a bit and then it's not so bad. That's a kind of good luck too I guess
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 14 2011 03:33 GMT
#2092
Report: 2,000 bodies found in Miyagi prefecture.
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sqrt
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 03:35:56
March 14 2011 03:35 GMT
#2093
On March 14 2011 12:33 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Report: 2,000 bodies found in Miyagi prefecture.


not surprising thought. The ~1000 dead count was too optimistic to be true.
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fanta[Rn]
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Japan2465 Posts
March 14 2011 03:42 GMT
#2094
- Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano says the core container at the reactor is intact after the fresh explosion which is unlikely to have led to a large escape of radioactivity.
-Reuters
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
March 14 2011 03:47 GMT
#2095
On March 13 2011 22:28 TimeOut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 22:04 Alpina wrote:
Anyone knows what would happen if one of the reactors melts down? I mean how far radiation would go?



Most likely there will be no impact to the environment at all. I've said it multiple times in the thread already: The reactor types that we are talking about are a completely different design from those that were in use in Chernobyl. It is impossible for the same accident to occur in a BWR/X reactor.

The media is tearing this story apart like wolves right now. Most information, even if it is factually correct at times, is presented in a horrible and sometimes even deliberately misleading way.

Although I don't really want to use the term, because it doesn't mean what it actually means in the conception of the general public: Yes, there was at least a partial meltdown in multiple reactor cores due to decay heat.

That doesn't mean that the reactor is going to explode or that there is radiation all over the place. It does mean that the reactor core is heavily damaged and most likely beyond repair. Remember that the reactor has been shut down a long time ago. They are only dealing with decay heat right now.

Since they are filling the containment vessel with seawater, the reactor cores are already lost. It is correct that this is a "last ditch"-effort, because no matter what has happened before, it will irreparably destroy the reactor. That is a huge economic loss, no matter if the reactor was supposed to be shut down in March or not (we are talking about multiple billion dollar losses here).

What is incorrect, even though it is reported often in the media right now, is that there is danger of a runaway reaction, or that cooling the reactor with seawater leads to some sort of chain reaction. The control rods are in place. Even though there is at least partial core damage, the reactor is in a stable situation.

Edit 1:
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On March 13 2011 22:22 yndi wrote:
Interesting article. Wonder how accurate this is.

https://morgsatlarge.wordpress.com/2011/03/13/why-i-am-not-worried-about-japans-nuclear-reactors/


That's finally a good article and should be pretty accurate. I disagree with some assessments (especially the damage figure at the end), but overall that's pretty much correct.


I just read the article and liked it quite a bit. I'm an engineer, not a nuclear scientist, but a lot of things said in the article made sense to me.

Since you seem to know what you are talking about and you approve this blog, I'm going to take it as the "truth".

Thanks.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
March 14 2011 03:49 GMT
#2096
On March 14 2011 11:31 AttackZerg wrote:
NHK-tv is saying that no tsunami has been detected and that it was a false alarm.


not to be mean or sarcastic, then what was all that water flooding into Japan... was it not big enough to be classified as Tsunami?
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
March 14 2011 03:51 GMT
#2097
On March 14 2011 12:49 Keitzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 11:31 AttackZerg wrote:
NHK-tv is saying that no tsunami has been detected and that it was a false alarm.


not to be mean or sarcastic, then what was all that water flooding into Japan... was it not big enough to be classified as Tsunami?


i think his post was about no new tsunamis, cuz there was a warning for another 3 metre tsunami
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vek
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia936 Posts
March 14 2011 03:52 GMT
#2098
On March 14 2011 12:49 Keitzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 11:31 AttackZerg wrote:
NHK-tv is saying that no tsunami has been detected and that it was a false alarm.


not to be mean or sarcastic, then what was all that water flooding into Japan... was it not big enough to be classified as Tsunami?


He was referring to a second possible Tsunami that may have been triggered from aftershocks.
kaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States601 Posts
March 14 2011 03:54 GMT
#2099
Japan's central bank boosts liquidity injection into money markets to $183.8 billion - AP

can someone tell me what this means?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 14 2011 03:54 GMT
#2100
Russia will send an additional team of rescuers to Japan, stricken by the devastating earthquake and tsunami, a spokeswoman for Russia's Emergencies Ministry, Irina Andrianova said on Sunday.

Earlier on Sunday Andrianova said that Japan had agreed to accept a team of 50 Russian rescuers to join the search for survivors of Japan's disaster. They will leave for Japan at 6 p.m. Moscow time (15:00 GMT) from Ramenskoye airfield in Moscow region.

"A Mi-26 helicopter of the Russian Emergencies Ministry is preparing to fly to Japan from the city of Khabarovsk [in Russia's Far East] at 6 p.m. Moscow time," Andrianova said, adding that the second team includes 25 rescuers and a rescue vehicle.

If Japan asks for additional help, Russia will send more Emergencies Ministry's forces, along with the two rescue teams, the Emergencies Minister, Sergei Shoigu said during a telephone conversation with the President Dmitry Medvedev.


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