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GeyzeR
Profile Joined November 2010
250 Posts
August 23 2011 23:18 GMT
#2501
Alternative news summary:
http://www.mathaba.net/news/?x=628231

Bani Walid Sent 20,000 Volunteers last night to protect Tripoli
Saadi Qaddafi arrives with 4,600 fighters to protect Tripoli
Thousands at Green Square celebrated first step in Victory against NATO and rats
Female Brigades Make Solid Ring Around Tripoli
Another Million Man March planned
Benghazi: Fights Among Rebels
Outside Volunteer Defenders Number 600,000 around Tripoli
British-led assault on Tripoli smashed, British troops massacred by special unit of LDF
Zouari, Misrata, Zlitan under Gaddafi control, six-hundred thousand militia protect Tripoli
NATO puts hit on French journalist
Rat guide for British Special Air Service taken prisoner -- will stand trial
rEpulse
Profile Joined July 2011
United States77 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 23:19:37
August 23 2011 23:19 GMT
#2502
That's back in june, and its only 15... your saying 1300.
“Education is the ability to listen to almost anything without losing your temper or your self-confidence.” - Robert Frost
Joey Wheeler
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (North)276 Posts
August 23 2011 23:24 GMT
#2503
On August 24 2011 08:08 Tewks44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 08:06 BlackAut wrote:
On August 24 2011 08:01 HellRoxYa wrote:
On August 24 2011 07:50 Joey Wheeler wrote:
On August 24 2011 06:44 HellRoxYa wrote:
On August 24 2011 06:32 Joey Wheeler wrote:
Here's a video of a journalist stuck in a hotel protected by Gadhafi loyalists because NATO is trying to take over the hotel and capture or kill the foreign journalists staying there because they're reporting news that the media doesn't want to be made public. Gadhafi is caring about these journalists because it's his way of fighting against western propaganda. Just look at the report of rebels who supposedly "captured Gadhafi's son".


Yeah, because NATO targetting journalists wouldn't make the news at all, right? What the fuck is this. RT is a biased news source if I ever saw one.


Of course it wouldn't. You don't see "1000 dead and 4000 injured from NATO bombing runs" on the western media, do you?


Mostly because it didn't happen. Real figures are reported.

sry dude, even maistream reported alone 1300 confiremded death these very days, think a timespan from 1 day!

u sure they all terroristas?

only in 1 day, u really think they strategecly bomb things and think about a strategy without civillian casualties? no thats not part of "shock and awe" if u don t know that strategy, look at it, its basically "kill much and demand them to have peace" = voila regime change


I don't know how else to put this, but the 1300 number is... just simply not true. I'd assume we can agree this site isn't biased against your view.

http://www.infowars.com/nato-urged-to-investigate-civilian-deaths-during-libya-air-strikes/

It seems to indicate the figure is much closer to around 100 than something as large as 1300. Better luck next time


Look at the date of that article and then try not to feel stupid.
BlackAut
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria58 Posts
August 23 2011 23:26 GMT
#2504
he responded, and still not feeling stuped >< can t get the original article with the 1300 death in 1 day even if i read it twiche in local newspapers

rEpulse
Profile Joined July 2011
United States77 Posts
August 23 2011 23:28 GMT
#2505
On August 24 2011 08:26 BlackAut wrote:
he responded, and still not feeling stuped >< can t get the original article with the 1300 death in 1 day even if i read it twiche in local newspapers


Because there isn't one that's not bs... If there was 1300 in one day I'm pretty sure it would be all over the media, and not just on one paper.
“Education is the ability to listen to almost anything without losing your temper or your self-confidence.” - Robert Frost
Joey Wheeler
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (North)276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 23:32:21
August 23 2011 23:30 GMT
#2506
On August 24 2011 08:28 rEpulse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 08:26 BlackAut wrote:
he responded, and still not feeling stuped >< can t get the original article with the 1300 death in 1 day even if i read it twiche in local newspapers


Because there isn't one that's not bs... If there was 1300 in one day I'm pretty sure it would be all over the media, and not just on one paper.


http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/1300-dead-in-attack-on-tripoli-20110822-1j5d0.html
It's all over the internet. Open your eyes. Of course it isn't going to be reported on large, mainstream, Murdoch owned western media channels. That's the whole point of the discussion in this thread.

By the way, that is actually a mainstream channel and it still got reported, even if the article is tiny.
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
August 23 2011 23:31 GMT
#2507
On August 24 2011 08:30 Joey Wheeler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 08:28 rEpulse wrote:
On August 24 2011 08:26 BlackAut wrote:
he responded, and still not feeling stuped >< can t get the original article with the 1300 death in 1 day even if i read it twiche in local newspapers


Because there isn't one that's not bs... If there was 1300 in one day I'm pretty sure it would be all over the media, and not just on one paper.


http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/1300-dead-in-attack-on-tripoli-20110822-1j5d0.html
It's all over the internet. Open your eyes. Of course it isn't going to be reported on large, mainstream, Murdoch owned western media channels. That's the whole point of the discussion in this thread.


Yes, because using Libyan government casualty figures is reliable?
GeyzeR
Profile Joined November 2010
250 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 23:32:18
August 23 2011 23:32 GMT
#2508

Because there isn't one that's not bs... If there was 1300 in one day I'm pretty sure it would be all over the media, and not just on one paper.

Yeah, sure: "Rebels and NATO killed 1300 in one day" all over the media!
That is not possible, does not matter how many killed.
I personally do not believe in such high number. Libyan government is interested to increase causalities.
BlackAut
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria58 Posts
August 23 2011 23:32 GMT
#2509
someone from north Korea tells us about our mental dictatorship

thank you Joey (and i don t mean that ironic) :D
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 23:37:24
August 23 2011 23:33 GMT
#2510
I like how the news said that the ICC confirms the capture of some son of qaddafi, and then when it was overwhelmingly obvious that it was bogus, they said the opposite. Oh propaganda x).

I don't like those lybian govt. idiots, but it's funny how often the US and Co. governments/media perpetrate myths as we speak. Fortunately, that guy met with reporters the same day and right away the news agencies take back what they said. How embarrassing for the propaganda makers hehe. I love comedy .

Yeah, sure: "Rebels and NATO killed 1300 in one day" all over the media!
That is not possible, does not matter how many killed.
I personally do not believe in such high number. Libyan government is interested to increase causalities.

And the American government is interested in decreasing the number of casualties from however many have actually died. Woah! We see bullshitting on both sides!
BlackAut
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria58 Posts
August 23 2011 23:35 GMT
#2511
sadly its comedy where people really die :3



waaaaaaaagh teh dogz
nothing new to the folks who are are aware of this mechanism
rEpulse
Profile Joined July 2011
United States77 Posts
August 23 2011 23:36 GMT
#2512
On August 24 2011 08:30 Joey Wheeler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 08:28 rEpulse wrote:
On August 24 2011 08:26 BlackAut wrote:
he responded, and still not feeling stuped >< can t get the original article with the 1300 death in 1 day even if i read it twiche in local newspapers


Because there isn't one that's not bs... If there was 1300 in one day I'm pretty sure it would be all over the media, and not just on one paper.


http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/1300-dead-in-attack-on-tripoli-20110822-1j5d0.html
It's all over the internet. Open your eyes. Of course it isn't going to be reported on large, mainstream, Murdoch owned western media channels. That's the whole point of the discussion in this thread.

By the way, that is actually a mainstream channel and it still got reported, even if the article is tiny.

Where are the facts? Where are the pictures? Your saying something is fact by someone saying that it happened... Including that its by the Libyan spokesman? /facepalm "nobody else has seen this or looked into it? common use your brain...
“Education is the ability to listen to almost anything without losing your temper or your self-confidence.” - Robert Frost
Joey Wheeler
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (North)276 Posts
August 23 2011 23:36 GMT
#2513
On August 24 2011 08:31 Elegy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 08:30 Joey Wheeler wrote:
On August 24 2011 08:28 rEpulse wrote:
On August 24 2011 08:26 BlackAut wrote:
he responded, and still not feeling stuped >< can t get the original article with the 1300 death in 1 day even if i read it twiche in local newspapers


Because there isn't one that's not bs... If there was 1300 in one day I'm pretty sure it would be all over the media, and not just on one paper.


http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/1300-dead-in-attack-on-tripoli-20110822-1j5d0.html
It's all over the internet. Open your eyes. Of course it isn't going to be reported on large, mainstream, Murdoch owned western media channels. That's the whole point of the discussion in this thread.


Yes, because using Libyan government casualty figures is reliable?

Are you saying Rebel claims are reliable? Look at how many times their information has been proven wrong.

But of course, that is a stupid question. Rebel claims being reported as fact on corporate media channels means of course you're going to believe it's the truth.
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 23:39:13
August 23 2011 23:39 GMT
#2514
On August 24 2011 08:36 Joey Wheeler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 08:31 Elegy wrote:
On August 24 2011 08:30 Joey Wheeler wrote:
On August 24 2011 08:28 rEpulse wrote:
On August 24 2011 08:26 BlackAut wrote:
he responded, and still not feeling stuped >< can t get the original article with the 1300 death in 1 day even if i read it twiche in local newspapers


Because there isn't one that's not bs... If there was 1300 in one day I'm pretty sure it would be all over the media, and not just on one paper.


http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/1300-dead-in-attack-on-tripoli-20110822-1j5d0.html
It's all over the internet. Open your eyes. Of course it isn't going to be reported on large, mainstream, Murdoch owned western media channels. That's the whole point of the discussion in this thread.


Yes, because using Libyan government casualty figures is reliable?

Are you saying Rebel claims are reliable? Look at how many times their information has been proven wrong.

But of course, that is a stupid question. Rebel claims being reported as fact on corporate media channels means of course you're going to believe it's the truth.


What?

Government claims being reported as fact on state media channels means of course you're going to believe it's the truth, yes?
BlackAut
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria58 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 23:41:07
August 23 2011 23:39 GMT
#2515
backuped by Nato air support, very more reliable they ll NEVER lie to us!

Edits says: this thread lacks official approvers now ^^
Joey Wheeler
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (North)276 Posts
August 23 2011 23:42 GMT
#2516
On August 24 2011 08:39 Elegy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 08:36 Joey Wheeler wrote:
On August 24 2011 08:31 Elegy wrote:
On August 24 2011 08:30 Joey Wheeler wrote:
On August 24 2011 08:28 rEpulse wrote:
On August 24 2011 08:26 BlackAut wrote:
he responded, and still not feeling stuped >< can t get the original article with the 1300 death in 1 day even if i read it twiche in local newspapers


Because there isn't one that's not bs... If there was 1300 in one day I'm pretty sure it would be all over the media, and not just on one paper.


http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/1300-dead-in-attack-on-tripoli-20110822-1j5d0.html
It's all over the internet. Open your eyes. Of course it isn't going to be reported on large, mainstream, Murdoch owned western media channels. That's the whole point of the discussion in this thread.


Yes, because using Libyan government casualty figures is reliable?

Are you saying Rebel claims are reliable? Look at how many times their information has been proven wrong.

But of course, that is a stupid question. Rebel claims being reported as fact on corporate media channels means of course you're going to believe it's the truth.


What?

Government claims being reported as fact on state media channels means of course you're going to believe it's the truth, yes?





Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
August 23 2011 23:43 GMT
#2517
I love this:

The saboteurs ran recorded sounds of battle through speakers of the mosques, to mislead the citizens and give reporters the reason to write about the "audible gunfights and explosions". Simultaneously, dozens of armed people from Algeria, Tunisia and Egypt leaked to several areas of the city, shooting and threatening Libyans. Several Apaches flew in and bombed. The premier of the Qatari film failed at the box office, and the saboteurs were quickly dealt with, but they turned out to be a distraction. NATO marines and mercenaries were arriving from the sea in small fast boats.

The slaughter began. Within 11 hours, 1300 innocent civilians were killed in Tripoli, and 5000 injured, as French Foreign Legion and Al Qaeda cut their way through. All this time, the bombings continued non-stop. Three Apaches flew over the city, firing their miniguns. The gangs of Al Qaeda were burning houses, looting shops and assaulting every woman in sight. Any prominent supporter of Gaddafi was targeted and their houses attacked first. The number of gangs is still increasing right now, coming in from the sea in the small NATO crafts, and directed by the Special Forces of all the aggressor nations. Right now, the situation is unclear due to power cuts and informational blockade.


LOL.

Sounds legit.
GeyzeR
Profile Joined November 2010
250 Posts
August 23 2011 23:46 GMT
#2518
On August 24 2011 08:30 Joey Wheeler wrote:
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/1300-dead-in-attack-on-tripoli-20110822-1j5d0.html
It's all over the internet. Open your eyes. Of course it isn't going to be reported on large, mainstream,


"Libyan government spokesman Mussa Ibrahim says 1,300 people have been killed in a rebel assault on the capital" - this is the only source of the news. Does not matter where you see it
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 23:49:09
August 23 2011 23:48 GMT
#2519
On August 24 2011 08:42 Joey Wheeler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 08:39 Elegy wrote:
On August 24 2011 08:36 Joey Wheeler wrote:
On August 24 2011 08:31 Elegy wrote:
On August 24 2011 08:30 Joey Wheeler wrote:
On August 24 2011 08:28 rEpulse wrote:
On August 24 2011 08:26 BlackAut wrote:
he responded, and still not feeling stuped >< can t get the original article with the 1300 death in 1 day even if i read it twiche in local newspapers


Because there isn't one that's not bs... If there was 1300 in one day I'm pretty sure it would be all over the media, and not just on one paper.


http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/1300-dead-in-attack-on-tripoli-20110822-1j5d0.html
It's all over the internet. Open your eyes. Of course it isn't going to be reported on large, mainstream, Murdoch owned western media channels. That's the whole point of the discussion in this thread.


Yes, because using Libyan government casualty figures is reliable?

Are you saying Rebel claims are reliable? Look at how many times their information has been proven wrong.

But of course, that is a stupid question. Rebel claims being reported as fact on corporate media channels means of course you're going to believe it's the truth.


What?

Government claims being reported as fact on state media channels means of course you're going to believe it's the truth, yes?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhJWulXIFao




Let's try again.

Let's not use RT (LOL) and once again ask...who is providing these figures? Who went out and counted the dead bodies?

You think you can trust the Libyan government anymore than you can trust the oh-so-evil corporate western media?

Now, if you can show me a source of a non-government and non-affiliated group supporting these casualty figures, I might accept that these figures may, in fact, be real.
rEpulse
Profile Joined July 2011
United States77 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 23:51:40
August 23 2011 23:48 GMT
#2520
Oh my god... Susan Lindauer is the biggest liar in this world she even said Israel had a plot in 9/11.
Also RT is a russian news network... LOL

"sorry but i'm kinda laughing so hard after she said (I heard from someone that NATO helicopters were going through the streets gunning down civilians, and chasing people down) sounds like someone out of COD"


"RT started broadcasting on December 10, 2005 with nearly 100 English-speaking journalists reporting for it worldwide.[5][6] It was the first all-digital Russian TV network,[7] and cost about $30 million in 2005 to set up and $60 million for its first year of operation,[5] Margarita Simonyan, RT's editor-in-chief, says the station was born out of the desire to present an "unbiased portrait of Russia."[7]

The network was launched by the autonomous non-profit organization ANO TV-Novosti in 2005, but much of the funding to this organization is injected from the Russian Federal Budget (2.4 billion rubles in 2007).[8][9] This is equivalent to 82.56 million August 8, 2011 U.S. dollars.

In August 2007, RT had television's first ever live report from the North Pole, which lasted 5 minutes, 41 seconds. An RT crew participated in the Arktika 2007 Russian polar expedition, led by Artur Chilingarov on the Akademik Fyodorov icebreaker"
“Education is the ability to listen to almost anything without losing your temper or your self-confidence.” - Robert Frost
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