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On February 09 2014 05:38 Manit0u wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 04:29 Cokefreak wrote:On February 09 2014 04:17 Manit0u wrote:On February 09 2014 01:44 Thalandros wrote:This made me do more research on the subject of how KFC handle their chicken, and it might mostly be in the states but it's actually almost as bad as this. Thanks for silently enlightening me. Only eating biological chicken/eggs ever again. By the way, the chick culling that was linked: Apparently another common form is Asphyxiation. I want to puke and then die now. Jesus christ... x.x No worries. Some of the research suggests that at the current rate of world development and population increase we probably won't be able to feed enough people in 10-30 years from now (30 being very optimistic, and we're talking developed countries here, not 3rd world). Imagine the kind of food you'll be eating then... Apparently grasshoppers are delicious. I've read too much Orwell, Dick and Gibson to know better than that... We'll be eating recycled people who died of hunger, you heard it here first.
Yeah, well, I've read Silverberg and most of the earth will be converted to farmland, we will be eating well and fucking all the time.
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On February 09 2014 05:38 Manit0u wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 04:29 Cokefreak wrote:On February 09 2014 04:17 Manit0u wrote:On February 09 2014 01:44 Thalandros wrote:This made me do more research on the subject of how KFC handle their chicken, and it might mostly be in the states but it's actually almost as bad as this. Thanks for silently enlightening me. Only eating biological chicken/eggs ever again. By the way, the chick culling that was linked: Apparently another common form is Asphyxiation. I want to puke and then die now. Jesus christ... x.x No worries. Some of the research suggests that at the current rate of world development and population increase we probably won't be able to feed enough people in 10-30 years from now (30 being very optimistic, and we're talking developed countries here, not 3rd world). Imagine the kind of food you'll be eating then... Apparently grasshoppers are delicious. I've read too much Orwell, Dick and Gibson to know better than that... We'll be eating recycled people who died of hunger, you heard it here first. exactly, you've read to much
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On February 09 2014 07:25 Cheerio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 05:38 Manit0u wrote:On February 09 2014 04:29 Cokefreak wrote:On February 09 2014 04:17 Manit0u wrote:On February 09 2014 01:44 Thalandros wrote:This made me do more research on the subject of how KFC handle their chicken, and it might mostly be in the states but it's actually almost as bad as this. Thanks for silently enlightening me. Only eating biological chicken/eggs ever again. By the way, the chick culling that was linked: Apparently another common form is Asphyxiation. I want to puke and then die now. Jesus christ... x.x No worries. Some of the research suggests that at the current rate of world development and population increase we probably won't be able to feed enough people in 10-30 years from now (30 being very optimistic, and we're talking developed countries here, not 3rd world). Imagine the kind of food you'll be eating then... Apparently grasshoppers are delicious. I've read too much Orwell, Dick and Gibson to know better than that... We'll be eating recycled people who died of hunger, you heard it here first. exactly, you've read to much
There is no such thing as "reading too much". I'm often reading 3 books/week, sometimes more, sometimes less (depending on how much work do I have to do).
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On February 09 2014 09:52 Manit0u wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 07:25 Cheerio wrote:On February 09 2014 05:38 Manit0u wrote:On February 09 2014 04:29 Cokefreak wrote:On February 09 2014 04:17 Manit0u wrote:On February 09 2014 01:44 Thalandros wrote:This made me do more research on the subject of how KFC handle their chicken, and it might mostly be in the states but it's actually almost as bad as this. Thanks for silently enlightening me. Only eating biological chicken/eggs ever again. By the way, the chick culling that was linked: Apparently another common form is Asphyxiation. I want to puke and then die now. Jesus christ... x.x No worries. Some of the research suggests that at the current rate of world development and population increase we probably won't be able to feed enough people in 10-30 years from now (30 being very optimistic, and we're talking developed countries here, not 3rd world). Imagine the kind of food you'll be eating then... Apparently grasshoppers are delicious. I've read too much Orwell, Dick and Gibson to know better than that... We'll be eating recycled people who died of hunger, you heard it here first. exactly, you've read to much There is no such thing as "reading too much". I'm often reading 3 books/week, sometimes more, sometimes less (depending on how much work do I have to do). I think it would do you lots of good if you substituted some of the reading time for thinking about what you've read time.
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On February 09 2014 10:24 Cheerio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 09:52 Manit0u wrote:On February 09 2014 07:25 Cheerio wrote:On February 09 2014 05:38 Manit0u wrote:On February 09 2014 04:29 Cokefreak wrote:On February 09 2014 04:17 Manit0u wrote:On February 09 2014 01:44 Thalandros wrote:This made me do more research on the subject of how KFC handle their chicken, and it might mostly be in the states but it's actually almost as bad as this. Thanks for silently enlightening me. Only eating biological chicken/eggs ever again. By the way, the chick culling that was linked: Apparently another common form is Asphyxiation. I want to puke and then die now. Jesus christ... x.x No worries. Some of the research suggests that at the current rate of world development and population increase we probably won't be able to feed enough people in 10-30 years from now (30 being very optimistic, and we're talking developed countries here, not 3rd world). Imagine the kind of food you'll be eating then... Apparently grasshoppers are delicious. I've read too much Orwell, Dick and Gibson to know better than that... We'll be eating recycled people who died of hunger, you heard it here first. exactly, you've read to much There is no such thing as "reading too much". I'm often reading 3 books/week, sometimes more, sometimes less (depending on how much work do I have to do). I think it would do you lots of good if you substituted some of the reading time for thinking about what you've read time.
I do that "on the fly" for the most part. I also have plenty of time to think about what I've read when I'm writing articles about it later on
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On February 09 2014 04:17 Manit0u wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 01:44 Thalandros wrote:This made me do more research on the subject of how KFC handle their chicken, and it might mostly be in the states but it's actually almost as bad as this. Thanks for silently enlightening me. Only eating biological chicken/eggs ever again. By the way, the chick culling that was linked: Apparently another common form is Asphyxiation. I want to puke and then die now. Jesus christ... x.x No worries. Some of the research suggests that at the current rate of world development and population increase we probably won't be able to feed enough people in 10-30 years from now (30 being very optimistic, and we're talking developed countries here, not 3rd world). Imagine the kind of food you'll be eating then...
Source of the "research" please.
No, just no, stop propagating this myth please. Unless we're hit by some apocalyptic change in food production in the future, we have more than enough capacity (technology, manpower, arable land, etc.) to feed a few times the current world population easily. Most estimates for world population growth puts us at 8-11 billion by 2044; we can even sustain that kind of population with current food production methods.
Hunger and famine only continue to affect poorer countries because of corruption, war, logistic dilemmas, etc. The average starving African is lucky to receive a small fraction of his or her intended aid.
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Heavenly Lake in China
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On February 10 2014 11:38 EngrishTeacher wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 04:17 Manit0u wrote:On February 09 2014 01:44 Thalandros wrote:This made me do more research on the subject of how KFC handle their chicken, and it might mostly be in the states but it's actually almost as bad as this. Thanks for silently enlightening me. Only eating biological chicken/eggs ever again. By the way, the chick culling that was linked: Apparently another common form is Asphyxiation. I want to puke and then die now. Jesus christ... x.x No worries. Some of the research suggests that at the current rate of world development and population increase we probably won't be able to feed enough people in 10-30 years from now (30 being very optimistic, and we're talking developed countries here, not 3rd world). Imagine the kind of food you'll be eating then... No, just no, stop propagating this myth please. Unless we're hit by some apocalyptic change in food production in the future, we have more than enough capacity (technology, manpower, arable land, etc.) to feed a few times the current world population easily. Most estimates for world population growth puts us at 8-11 billion by 2044; we can even sustain that kind of population with current food production methods.
Don't argue, he has read Orwell to know better than that.
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On February 10 2014 11:38 EngrishTeacher wrote: No, just no, stop propagating this myth please. Unless we're hit by some apocalyptic change in food production in the future, we have more than enough capacity (technology, manpower, arable land, etc.) to feed a few times the current world population easily. Most estimates for world population growth puts us at 8-11 billion by 2044; we can even sustain that kind of population with current food production methods.
It's not just about food supply. We'll eventually run out of other resources (like oil) which play a pretty big part in food production, distribution etc.
Some of the data I found: 1. Over 50 countries in the world have problems with drinking water supply. China and India become worried about this hitting them soon. 2. Western Europe countries spend around 9% of their national income for healthcare related to civilization diseases (obesity, growing number of people in old age etc.). Predictions for 2050 state that those expenses will get up to 20% in Europe and 30% in USA. 3. The world is wasting 30-40% of agricultural products (all across the board). In Asia and Africa this is mostly due to lack of proper infrastructure to store and transport food. 33% of the arable land product is being used to feed animals. 4. At the end of the century the world will require around 3 times as much energy output as today to sustain our current way of life. 5. It's not possible to maintain growth while being tied to non-renewable resources (like we do now). Especially that more and more people are improving their standard of life, which translates directly into resource consumption levels.
Just some random facts from several articles lying on my desk. The graphs are nice too but I'm too lazy to dig through the Internet for them.
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On February 11 2014 00:49 Manit0u wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2014 11:38 EngrishTeacher wrote: No, just no, stop propagating this myth please. Unless we're hit by some apocalyptic change in food production in the future, we have more than enough capacity (technology, manpower, arable land, etc.) to feed a few times the current world population easily. Most estimates for world population growth puts us at 8-11 billion by 2044; we can even sustain that kind of population with current food production methods.
It's not just about food supply. We'll eventually run out of other resources (like oil) which play a pretty big part in food production, distribution etc. Some of the data I found: 1. Over 50 countries in the world have problems with drinking water supply. China and India become worried about this hitting them soon. 2. Western Europe countries spend around 9% of their national income for healthcare related to civilization diseases (obesity, growing number of people in old age etc.). Predictions for 2050 state that those expenses will get up to 20% in Europe and 30% in USA. 3. The world is wasting 30-40% of agricultural products (all across the board). In Asia and Africa this is mostly due to lack of proper infrastructure to store and transport food. 33% of the arable land product is being used to feed animals. 4. At the end of the century the world will require around 3 times as much energy output as today to sustain our current way of life. 5. It's not possible to maintain growth while being tied to non-renewable resources (like we do now). Especially that more and more people are improving their standard of life, which translates directly into resource consumption levels. Just some random facts from several articles lying on my desk. The graphs are nice too but I'm too lazy to dig through the Internet for them. Look back 50 years, realize how different life today is. Realize you shouldn't be shitting your pants about how life in 50 years will be.
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On February 11 2014 01:38 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2014 00:49 Manit0u wrote:On February 10 2014 11:38 EngrishTeacher wrote: No, just no, stop propagating this myth please. Unless we're hit by some apocalyptic change in food production in the future, we have more than enough capacity (technology, manpower, arable land, etc.) to feed a few times the current world population easily. Most estimates for world population growth puts us at 8-11 billion by 2044; we can even sustain that kind of population with current food production methods.
It's not just about food supply. We'll eventually run out of other resources (like oil) which play a pretty big part in food production, distribution etc. Some of the data I found: 1. Over 50 countries in the world have problems with drinking water supply. China and India become worried about this hitting them soon. 2. Western Europe countries spend around 9% of their national income for healthcare related to civilization diseases (obesity, growing number of people in old age etc.). Predictions for 2050 state that those expenses will get up to 20% in Europe and 30% in USA. 3. The world is wasting 30-40% of agricultural products (all across the board). In Asia and Africa this is mostly due to lack of proper infrastructure to store and transport food. 33% of the arable land product is being used to feed animals. 4. At the end of the century the world will require around 3 times as much energy output as today to sustain our current way of life. 5. It's not possible to maintain growth while being tied to non-renewable resources (like we do now). Especially that more and more people are improving their standard of life, which translates directly into resource consumption levels. Just some random facts from several articles lying on my desk. The graphs are nice too but I'm too lazy to dig through the Internet for them. Look back 50 years, realize how different life today is. Realize you shouldn't be shitting your pants about how life in 50 years will be.
I don't know about you but I'd like to live 50 years from now. And not necessarily in a cave.
Looking 50 years back is pointless. For the past 25 years we put more CO2 into atmosphere than in the entire 1760-1990 period.
I mean, do you notice a trend here?
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You are fast jumping to conclusions. Just because there are negative trends doesn't mean the world will suddenly collapse. Your logic is like: oh shit, my health is constantly on a decline, I guess I will die tomorrow.
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On February 11 2014 02:48 Cheerio wrote: You are fast jumping to conclusions. Just because there are negative trends doesn't mean the world will suddenly collapse. Your logic is like: oh shit, my health is constantly on a decline, I guess I will die tomorrow.
Of course. That's just one of many possibilities. But I'd rather prepare for the worst
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Can we get back to photos please...
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Michael Sam: The first (future) NFL football player who is openly gay.
Historic.
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Dick Fuld, former CEO of Lehman Brothers, explaining his compensation scheme during a congressional testimony after the Lehman bankruptcy.
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On February 09 2014 10:26 Manit0u wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 10:24 Cheerio wrote:On February 09 2014 09:52 Manit0u wrote:On February 09 2014 07:25 Cheerio wrote:On February 09 2014 05:38 Manit0u wrote:On February 09 2014 04:29 Cokefreak wrote:On February 09 2014 04:17 Manit0u wrote:On February 09 2014 01:44 Thalandros wrote:This made me do more research on the subject of how KFC handle their chicken, and it might mostly be in the states but it's actually almost as bad as this. Thanks for silently enlightening me. Only eating biological chicken/eggs ever again. By the way, the chick culling that was linked: Apparently another common form is Asphyxiation. I want to puke and then die now. Jesus christ... x.x No worries. Some of the research suggests that at the current rate of world development and population increase we probably won't be able to feed enough people in 10-30 years from now (30 being very optimistic, and we're talking developed countries here, not 3rd world). Imagine the kind of food you'll be eating then... Apparently grasshoppers are delicious. I've read too much Orwell, Dick and Gibson to know better than that... We'll be eating recycled people who died of hunger, you heard it here first. exactly, you've read to much There is no such thing as "reading too much". I'm often reading 3 books/week, sometimes more, sometimes less (depending on how much work do I have to do). I think it would do you lots of good if you substituted some of the reading time for thinking about what you've read time. I do that "on the fly" for the most part. I also have plenty of time to think about what I've read when I'm writing articles about it later on  Trust me, unless you're in the top percentile of the top percentile, you should spend more time thinking. I read big, mind-expanding books almost bi-yearly, and yet my thinking time is still infinitely valuable and helps me expand my mind a lot. This despite the fact that I'm in the top percentile, and I'm there almost entirely because I'm good at one thing: finding meaning in raw data, interpreting the ramifications of what I know and connecting the dots between all the different things I already know.
Also, thanks a ton for the KFC food processing demonstration. I'd find it hard to believe there's a more enlightening gif out there.
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my god that kfc gif. i need to see a therapist
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Commuters in New York reading of J.F.K.'s assassination, Nov. 1963.
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A graveyard sits underwater in the village of Moorland, on February 7, 2014. Many areas of the Somerset Levels have been underwater for over a month in the wettest January in Britain on record. Severe weather warnings for rain and gale force winds have been issued for the weekend.
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On February 11 2014 12:12 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler +A graveyard sits underwater in the village of Moorland, on February 7, 2014. Many areas of the Somerset Levels have been underwater for over a month in the wettest January in Britain on record. Severe weather warnings for rain and gale force winds have been issued for the weekend. This can be really bad actually, graves can open up and the water can get pretty badly contaminated. There's a reason most graveyards are put on hills.
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