EPTHopefully it works.. would be cool to see one.
Scientists aim to resurrect mammoth - Page 4
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Noxie
United States2227 Posts
Hopefully it works.. would be cool to see one. | ||
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Stropheum
United States1124 Posts
"God" did manage to kill all of them off, but if you think about it, he also gave us the ability to improve intellectually and at the same time, since he's incapable of accidents, deliberately left us preserved mammoth DNA. Clearly he wants this to happen no? | ||
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thesideshow
930 Posts
On January 19 2011 00:40 ChaseR wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammoth Psh...they of all people should have learned the lessons of Jurassic Park, throughout history humans have destroyed and threatened to extinct most of the ambient lifeforms on this planet because of interfering and trying to control nature. The evolution of life on this planet Is like a billion years old, whenever "scientist" go about changing the biological eco system with gene manipulation thinking they can predict the result they end up with unpredictable unwanted results they can't rectify and all hell breaks lose. I know what they're going to breed it with...women! They'll open it to the public alright, as a beastality porn shack to fulfill their mens sexually suppressed need for bizarre fetish sex. Heck they'd make millions of that idea. It's pretty obvious why it went extinct it was to huge to survive in a forest and... Clone a fucking Mammoth in 5 years...don't they know how huge a Mammoth is? What's the point? The Elephant is already almost extinct...NO let's cross breed it with a mammoth and see what the results are...can you imagine the complications. And how would they control such a beast? Mammoth's are not domesticated and friendly like Manfred in Ice Age. Someone fucking facepalm with me please? x_x I really don't think there's anything to be 'learnt' from a work of fiction. You make it sound like a mammoth would mean the end of the whole. | ||
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ChaseR
Norway1004 Posts
I really don't think there's anything to be 'learnt' from a work of fiction Oh please shove your ignorance, do you know how Star Trek influenced modern scientists and technology, the ideas for the cellphone, ipods etc. (There was a whole documentary with William shatner about it.)@oBlade It's when these genetically altered specimens are being released in the wild that unexpected results and mutations occur when they mix together back into the eco system. | ||
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oBlade
United States6627 Posts
On January 19 2011 00:40 ChaseR wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammoth Psh...they of all people should have learned the lessons of Jurassic Park, throughout history humans have destroyed and threatened to extinct most of the ambient lifeforms on this planet because of interfering and trying to control nature. The evolution of life on this planet Is like a billion years old, whenever "scientist" go about changing the biological eco system with gene manipulation thinking they can predict the result they end up with unpredictable unwanted results they can't rectify and all hell breaks lose. On the contrary, the force of nature is mas/sive compared to what a couple of early 21st century scientists can do. And this has nothing to do with repopulating a species or reintroducing a species to the environment. Civilized countries have laws that work against importing exotic foreign species because of the consequences. Hell doesn't break loose* all the time either. Genetic manipulation in the form of selective breeding works just fine - think of the square watermelons in Japan or whatever. Fuck, all manner of domesticated crops and livestock are viable sources of food because of human intervention. | ||
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clayn
Germany444 Posts
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NoobSkills
United States1603 Posts
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DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
On January 19 2011 01:10 clayn wrote: the human wasnt made for being a wannabe god. =.= Why not? | ||
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Electric.Jesus
Germany755 Posts
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DerNebel
Denmark648 Posts
Oh, and we might learn something about the thing, but that would just be an interesting side-effect. | ||
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Krikkitone
United States1451 Posts
On January 19 2011 01:18 Electric.Jesus wrote: Oh common, Science is the only field where the answer "because we can" is legitimate. Please do not take this from us. And this is precisely the point of the undertaking, to show that one can pull it off. Everything else is just pretense. Studying a mammoth? Please. Since it will not be able to learn behaviors from other mammothes it is pretty useless for behavioral studies. They'd be looking at more of the ecology... and some of the behavior is going to be partially hardwired... particularly if they could start breeding groups of mammoths. | ||
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Kaasflipje
Netherlands198 Posts
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On January 19 2011 01:57 Kaasflipje wrote: Title is kind of misleading. It should be cloning instead of resurrecting. I know. I felt it was pretty obvious they weren't actually resurrecting a mammoth though so I kept the headline of the article. | ||
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Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
On January 18 2011 22:45 Fa1nT wrote: Progress in the field of cloning? Setting up a working method to prevent future extinction? Proof that humans are now capable of creating life that no longer exists, something a large majority o earth believes only deities can do? Wat? Pretty sure this is nothing of the sort....but still mega-cool. I'm pretty sure if they have to use existing DNA from existing preserved mammoth cells, they aren't "creating" anything. If they were making some random new animal from scratch, then maybe you'd have a point. | ||
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
On January 19 2011 03:23 Sm3agol wrote: Wat? Pretty sure this is nothing of the sort....but still mega-cool. I'm pretty sure if they have to use existing DNA from existing preserved mammoth cells, they aren't "creating" anything. If they were making some random new animal from scratch, then maybe you'd have a point. Not out loud, where funders can hear, but biologists and geneticists have wanted to "play god" for many years behind closed doors. | ||
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thesideshow
930 Posts
On January 19 2011 01:09 ChaseR wrote: Oh please shove your ignorance, do you know how Star Trek influenced modern scientists and technology, the ideas for the cellphone, ipods etc. (There was a whole documentary with William shatner about it.) . You're right. It influences technology. It gives people ideas to work towards. We model real life around fiction. Fiction however, does not dictate how nature or any other beings act. It has absolutely not influence on them. We do not see whales swallowing humans, monkeys being trained to fly spaceships or anything of that sort. Unless the mammoth reads Jurassic Park and goes: "Hey, that's pretty cool, lets work towards being like that T-Rex", I don't see the connection. If you're saying that Jurassic Park gives us an idea of how the mammoth may act, remember that the whole piece of work is speculation. I wouldn't even dare to call it speculation as there is no context. Anyway, it'd be pretty boring to read about a successful dinosaur theme park wouldn't it? If I wrote fictitious novel about resurrected triceratops that were all friendly and played with babies and mowed my lawn and stuff, why couldn't my piece of work be used to predict how a resurrected mammoth would act? | ||
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Kazzabiss
1006 Posts
On January 18 2011 21:16 Redunzl wrote: "scientists" will do x... tell us which organization is funding them. "scientists" are always employed by someone.. usually government or multi-national corporations. the graph doesnt show the inbred offspring of the eventual two adult mammoths. ahh the mindset of a conspiracist. 1. Who said they were going to create two mammoths and breed them to try and recreate the entire species... 2. Why would the offspring of the unlikely breeding of the clones be inbred.. why would the scientists use the same Elephant to birth both of them, plus these are still animals, inbreeding is common and almost completely negligible. 3. Who cares who they are funded by? It's for the advancement of Science... ????? so confusing ????? | ||
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Dagobert
Netherlands1858 Posts
On January 18 2011 21:14 ZerGuy wrote: Jurassic Park? Also, the methods they plan to use aren't new or anything (at least I believe so). What's the point? Do we want to make mammoths walk the surface of earth, or is it for making steps forward in genetics? It would be a proof-of-concept. The next step would be saddling up and riding em. Also, recreating velociraptors, I imagine, should be fairly high up the priority list. | ||
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Dagobert
Netherlands1858 Posts
Because humans weren't made at all. Remember evolution? It's without intention.  + Show Spoiler + edit: sorry for the double post, I just clicked quote... ^^ | ||
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ProjectVirtue
Canada360 Posts
but in all seriousness, this is pretty cool and it'd be pretty great leap forward in genetic engineering | ||
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