I want to see two things before I die. A dinosaur (not gonna happen

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Kanin
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I want to see two things before I die. A dinosaur (not gonna happen ![]() | ||
Gigaudas
Sweden1213 Posts
On January 18 2011 22:38 Scaipax wrote: What's the point? It's all kewl and stuff, but what's the point? The point? This is like the greatest thing ever if it succeeds! I want to see mammoth and saber toothed cats :D | ||
MisterKatosS
France352 Posts
On January 18 2011 22:15 KwarK wrote: Show nested quote + On January 18 2011 21:14 Chriamon wrote: Probably won't work, weren't scientists already trying to resurrect the Tazmanian tiger, which has only been extinct for ~60 years, to no success. Tasmania doesn't have so much permafrost. Well the age of extinction is'nt relevant, you should look at the age of species separation between the host and the extinct animal (ie genetic distance). | ||
rei
United States3593 Posts
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SupaChicken
Australia273 Posts
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CaptainCrush
United States785 Posts
On January 18 2011 23:46 SupaChicken wrote: Knowing Japan, it'll just become a giant, carnivore Mammoth that'll destroy Tokyo. lol ![]() How can some of you say that there's no point!? It's friggin sweet! I want to see one at the zoo! Plus, I have the greatest dog in the world. He is pretty old now so any research that may aid in cloning him one day soon is great, thanks science ![]() | ||
GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
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Dugrok
Canada377 Posts
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Scodia
United Kingdom588 Posts
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Facedriller
Sweden275 Posts
Oh wait... he didnt die. | ||
Jstor
United States107 Posts
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BritishBeef
United Kingdom372 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
Why is it Mammoths all the time? | ||
GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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kidcrash89
198 Posts
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ChaseR
Norway1004 Posts
Psh...they of all people should have learned the lessons of Jurassic Park, throughout history humans have destroyed and threatened to extinct most of the ambient lifeforms on this planet because of interfering and trying to control nature. The evolution of life on this planet Is like a billion years old, whenever "scientist" go about changing the biological eco system with gene manipulation thinking they can predict the result they end up with unpredictable unwanted results they can't rectify and all hell breaks lose. ..."If a cloned embryo can be created, we need to discuss, before transplanting it into the womb, how to breed (the mammoth) and whether to display it to the public," Iritani said I know what they're going to breed it with...women! They'll open it to the public alright, as a beastality porn shack to fulfill their mens sexually suppressed need for bizarre fetish sex. Heck they'd make millions of that idea. "After the mammoth is born, we will examine its ecology and genes to study why the species became extinct and other factors.".. It's pretty obvious why it went extinct it was to huge to survive in a forest and... The spread of advanced human hunters through northern Eurasia and the Americas around the time of the extinctions was a new development, and thus probably contributed significantly. Data derived from studies done on living elephants suggest human hunting was likely a strong contributing factor in the mammoth's final extinction. Homo erectus is known to have consumed mammoth meat as early as 1.8 million years ago. Clone a fucking Mammoth in 5 years...don't they know how huge a Mammoth is? What's the point? The Elephant is already almost extinct...NO let's cross breed it with a mammoth and see what the results are...can you imagine the complications. And how would they control such a beast? Mammoth's are not domesticated and friendly like Manfred in Ice Age. Someone fucking facepalm with me please? x_x | ||
anatem
Romania1369 Posts
Funny how whenever there's a thread about some random scientific undertaking, there are always people seemingly pissed off at the fact that we're studying our surroundings rather than solving world hunger or whatever. it's got noting to do with that, i appreciate your sensitivity to puritanical narrow-minded argumentation, but boy you got the wrong guy i'm all for pushing of scientific boundaries however they care to go about it, i just think this particular one is stupid, opinion to which i am very much entitled, surely you can see that and be more careful about assuming things in an argument before dropping the big words oh, and please don't compare the study of microbes or columbus' ideas to this, those were very practical projects with evident benefits. taking risks in the the pursuit of innovation, understanding, or wealth, does not equal investing valuable resources into something that has no practical value. -and what bothers me isn't that they're doing it, but that there's this hypocrisy about this whole thing in that it hides under the pretense of being something reputable when it's barely more than an elitist version of those "brainiac" type of shows - for a main drive at least and ye, while scientists do stumble upon great discoveries every once in a while accidentally, we'd get nowhere if instead of goal-oriented research we'd get this kind of joke experiment that looks to me more like grownups playing with their cool toys rather than serious researchers spending their time and resources on an experiment with projected benefits -yes, i can see them making money were they to succeed with this, but unless more information as to what the specific scientific value of such an experiment would be is released by them, i can't take it seriously or give it more credit than i would give to a host of random publicity stunts coming from other less prestigious domains than clone research note: i do respect the value of experimenting with random stuff just for the sake of it, as it's a good component of human individual development and evolution as a species, BUT this isn't art or circus. call it circus research and i'll be fine with that though who knows, they might actually discover something amazing while doing this, anything's possible, and i'll think it;s very ironic if they do. till then, i think it's funny as hell, and that some guys with money/brainpower are too bored for their, and our, own good | ||
Najda
United States3765 Posts
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EunByuL
Vietnam77 Posts
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On January 19 2011 00:41 anatem wrote: Show nested quote + Funny how whenever there's a thread about some random scientific undertaking, there are always people seemingly pissed off at the fact that we're studying our surroundings rather than solving world hunger or whatever. it's got noting to do with that, i appreciate your sensitivity to puritanical narrow-minded argumentation, but boy you got the wrong guy i'm all for pushing of scientific boundaries however they care to go about it, i just think this particular one is stupid, opinion to which i am very much entitled, surely you can see that and be more careful about assuming things in an argument before dropping the big words oh, and please don't compare the study of microbes or columbus' ideas to this, those were very practical projects with evident benefits. taking risks in the the pursuit of innovation, understanding, or wealth, does not equal investing valuable resources into something that has no practical value. -and what bothers me isn't that they're doing it, but that there's this hypocrisy about this whole thing in that it hides under the pretense of being something reputable when it's barely more than an elitist version of those "brainiac" type of shows - for a main drive at least and ye, while scientists do stumble upon great discoveries every once in a while accidentally, we'd get nowhere if instead of goal-oriented research we'd get this kind of joke experiment that looks to me more like grownups playing with their cool toys rather than serious researchers spending their time and resources on an experiment with projected benefits -yes, i can see them making money were they to succeed with this, but unless more information as to what the specific scientific value of such an experiment would be is released by them, i can't take it seriously or give it more credit than i would give to a host of random publicity stunts coming from other less prestigious domains than clone research note: i do respect the value of experimenting with random stuff just for the sake of it, as it's a good component of human individual development and evolution as a species, BUT this isn't art or circus. call it circus research and i'll be fine with that though who knows, they might actually discover something amazing while doing this, anything's possible, and i'll think it;s very ironic if they do. till then, i think it's funny as hell, and that some guys with money/brainpower are too bored for their, and our, own good "Circus science" don't you think you're somewhat belittling the efforts of biologists, ecologists and etiologists across the world closely studying nature and all things living? If anything, the opportunity to study a lifeform that went extinct nearly 10,000 years ago should be even more worthwhile. And that is completely disregarding whatever value and application there may be in advancing our cloning techniques. Even if the mammoth isn't hugely important to us, there may very well be other extinct life forms that are. "evident benefits" obviously not so evident at the time being. | ||
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