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Kanin
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
75 Posts
January 18 2011 14:00 GMT
#41
I really, really hope this works. These scientists are much, much, much more knowledgeable than I so I won't even attempt to comment on if it will be a success or not. But, to know an extinct species has been brought back? That's amazing.

I want to see two things before I die. A dinosaur (not gonna happen ) and a human on mars (got 40 years of tech advancement to come before I start to dribble and soil myself, so this isn't too far fetched)
*squeak* ^-^
Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
January 18 2011 14:00 GMT
#42
On January 18 2011 22:38 Scaipax wrote:
What's the point?
It's all kewl and stuff, but what's the point?


The point? This is like the greatest thing ever if it succeeds! I want to see mammoth and saber toothed cats :D
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MisterKatosS
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
France352 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-18 14:34:49
January 18 2011 14:32 GMT
#43
On January 18 2011 22:15 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2011 21:14 Chriamon wrote:
Probably won't work, weren't scientists already trying to resurrect the Tazmanian tiger, which has only been extinct for ~60 years, to no success.

Tasmania doesn't have so much permafrost.

Well the age of extinction is'nt relevant, you should look at the age of species separation between the host and the extinct animal (ie genetic distance).
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rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
January 18 2011 14:42 GMT
#44
every single extinct specie ever existed were gone because they can't survive on their own and fit in the ever changing environment, The idea of bring back extinct species is not to repopulate them, it's just a mean to study the method of bring them back along with curiosity and bragging rights.
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SupaChicken
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia273 Posts
January 18 2011 14:46 GMT
#45
Knowing Japan, it'll just become a giant, carnivore Mammoth that'll destroy Tokyo.
I need a new quote...
CaptainCrush
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States785 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-18 14:49:02
January 18 2011 14:47 GMT
#46
On January 18 2011 23:46 SupaChicken wrote:
Knowing Japan, it'll just become a giant, carnivore Mammoth that'll destroy Tokyo.

lol

How can some of you say that there's no point!? It's friggin sweet! I want to see one at the zoo!

Plus, I have the greatest dog in the world. He is pretty old now so any research that may aid in cloning him one day soon is great, thanks science
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
January 18 2011 14:50 GMT
#47
that would be so cool to see a live mammoth in a zoo someday
Dugrok
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada377 Posts
January 18 2011 14:57 GMT
#48
This is a childhood dream of mine come true. While cloning can potentially become a problem in society, this kind of use, is pretty cool if you ask me.
Scodia
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom588 Posts
January 18 2011 15:01 GMT
#49
i feel sorry for the elephant giving birth. I mean. really mammoths are bigger than elephants stands to reason baby mammoth is bigger also.
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Facedriller
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden275 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-18 15:05:35
January 18 2011 15:05 GMT
#50
Hey, why not do the same with Hitlers corpse??

Oh wait... he didnt die.
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Jstor
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States107 Posts
January 18 2011 15:06 GMT
#51
You were so preoccupied with whether or not you could...you never stopped to think if you should

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BritishBeef
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom372 Posts
January 18 2011 15:12 GMT
#52
play god much?
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
January 18 2011 15:24 GMT
#53
I am pretty sure I have heard something like this before. Several years ago. Although I think back then they (dunno who) were trying to "interbreed" Elephants and Mammoths step by step to get gradually closer to the Mammoth side.

Why is it Mammoths all the time?
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
January 18 2011 15:27 GMT
#54
Really interesting, best of luck to them as having a live mammoth would be pretty cool.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
kidcrash89
Profile Joined August 2010
198 Posts
January 18 2011 15:34 GMT
#55
They were talking about this a few years ago, but I guess it turned out to be unsuccessful. It would be pretty creepy if this actually worked
ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
January 18 2011 15:40 GMT
#56
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammoth

Psh...they of all people should have learned the lessons of Jurassic Park, throughout history humans have destroyed and threatened to extinct most of the ambient lifeforms on this planet because of interfering and trying to control nature. The evolution of life on this planet Is like a billion years old, whenever "scientist" go about changing the biological eco system with gene manipulation thinking they can predict the result they end up with unpredictable unwanted results they can't rectify and all hell breaks lose.
..."If a cloned embryo can be created, we need to discuss, before transplanting it into the womb, how to breed (the mammoth) and whether to display it to the public," Iritani said

I know what they're going to breed it with...women! They'll open it to the public alright, as a beastality porn shack to fulfill their mens sexually suppressed need for bizarre fetish sex. Heck they'd make millions of that idea.

"After the mammoth is born, we will examine its ecology and genes to study why the species became extinct and other factors."..

It's pretty obvious why it went extinct it was to huge to survive in a forest and...

The spread of advanced human hunters through northern Eurasia and the Americas around the time of the extinctions was a new development, and thus probably contributed significantly. Data derived from studies done on living elephants suggest human hunting was likely a strong contributing factor in the mammoth's final extinction. Homo erectus is known to have consumed mammoth meat as early as 1.8 million years ago.

Clone a fucking Mammoth in 5 years...don't they know how huge a Mammoth is? What's the point? The Elephant is already almost extinct...NO let's cross breed it with a mammoth and see what the results are...can you imagine the complications. And how would they control such a beast? Mammoth's are not domesticated and friendly like Manfred in Ice Age.

Someone fucking facepalm with me please? x_x
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anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-18 15:44:36
January 18 2011 15:41 GMT
#57


Funny how whenever there's a thread about some random scientific undertaking, there are always people seemingly pissed off at the fact that we're studying our surroundings rather than solving world hunger or whatever.


it's got noting to do with that, i appreciate your sensitivity to puritanical narrow-minded argumentation, but boy you got the wrong guy

i'm all for pushing of scientific boundaries however they care to go about it, i just think this particular one is stupid, opinion to which i am very much entitled, surely you can see that and be more careful about assuming things in an argument before dropping the big words

oh, and please don't compare the study of microbes or columbus' ideas to this, those were very practical projects with evident benefits. taking risks in the the pursuit of innovation, understanding, or wealth, does not equal investing valuable resources into something that has no practical value. -and what bothers me isn't that they're doing it, but that there's this hypocrisy about this whole thing in that it hides under the pretense of being something reputable when it's barely more than an elitist version of those "brainiac" type of shows - for a main drive at least

and ye, while scientists do stumble upon great discoveries every once in a while accidentally, we'd get nowhere if instead of goal-oriented research we'd get this kind of joke experiment that looks to me more like grownups playing with their cool toys rather than serious researchers spending their time and resources on an experiment with projected benefits

-yes, i can see them making money were they to succeed with this, but unless more information as to what the specific scientific value of such an experiment would be is released by them, i can't take it seriously or give it more credit than i would give to a host of random publicity stunts coming from other less prestigious domains than clone research

note: i do respect the value of experimenting with random stuff just for the sake of it, as it's a good component of human individual development and evolution as a species, BUT this isn't art or circus. call it circus research and i'll be fine with that

though who knows, they might actually discover something amazing while doing this, anything's possible, and i'll think it;s very ironic if they do. till then, i think it's funny as hell, and that some guys with money/brainpower are too bored for their, and our, own good
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
January 18 2011 15:46 GMT
#58
I thought this was already done. I remember hearing about this in school (with the mammoth and the exact method described) upwards of 5 years ago. Maybe it was just an idea then and now they are actually doing it? I don't know.
EunByuL
Profile Joined September 2010
Vietnam77 Posts
January 18 2011 15:48 GMT
#59
This is really interesting. Will be a giant leap for science if it works. And will demolish the sci-fi business! :D
Tôi không
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-18 15:52:49
January 18 2011 15:52 GMT
#60
On January 19 2011 00:41 anatem wrote:
Show nested quote +


Funny how whenever there's a thread about some random scientific undertaking, there are always people seemingly pissed off at the fact that we're studying our surroundings rather than solving world hunger or whatever.


it's got noting to do with that, i appreciate your sensitivity to puritanical narrow-minded argumentation, but boy you got the wrong guy

i'm all for pushing of scientific boundaries however they care to go about it, i just think this particular one is stupid, opinion to which i am very much entitled, surely you can see that and be more careful about assuming things in an argument before dropping the big words

oh, and please don't compare the study of microbes or columbus' ideas to this, those were very practical projects with evident benefits. taking risks in the the pursuit of innovation, understanding, or wealth, does not equal investing valuable resources into something that has no practical value. -and what bothers me isn't that they're doing it, but that there's this hypocrisy about this whole thing in that it hides under the pretense of being something reputable when it's barely more than an elitist version of those "brainiac" type of shows - for a main drive at least

and ye, while scientists do stumble upon great discoveries every once in a while accidentally, we'd get nowhere if instead of goal-oriented research we'd get this kind of joke experiment that looks to me more like grownups playing with their cool toys rather than serious researchers spending their time and resources on an experiment with projected benefits

-yes, i can see them making money were they to succeed with this, but unless more information as to what the specific scientific value of such an experiment would be is released by them, i can't take it seriously or give it more credit than i would give to a host of random publicity stunts coming from other less prestigious domains than clone research

note: i do respect the value of experimenting with random stuff just for the sake of it, as it's a good component of human individual development and evolution as a species, BUT this isn't art or circus. call it circus research and i'll be fine with that

though who knows, they might actually discover something amazing while doing this, anything's possible, and i'll think it;s very ironic if they do. till then, i think it's funny as hell, and that some guys with money/brainpower are too bored for their, and our, own good

"Circus science" don't you think you're somewhat belittling the efforts of biologists, ecologists and etiologists across the world closely studying nature and all things living? If anything, the opportunity to study a lifeform that went extinct nearly 10,000 years ago should be even more worthwhile. And that is completely disregarding whatever value and application there may be in advancing our cloning techniques. Even if the mammoth isn't hugely important to us, there may very well be other extinct life forms that are.

"evident benefits" obviously not so evident at the time being.
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