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iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
April 13 2015 08:52 GMT
#1141
GraphicsThis is for all you new people: I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits. You don't do your job, I'll shoot you myself. You get me?
iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 19:07:42
April 14 2015 19:06 GMT
#1142
Launch in 1 hour

GraphicsThis is for all you new people: I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits. You don't do your job, I'll shoot you myself. You get me?
iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
April 14 2015 20:33 GMT
#1143
GraphicsThis is for all you new people: I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits. You don't do your job, I'll shoot you myself. You get me?
Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
April 14 2015 20:50 GMT
#1144
Seemed like a good launch, too bad the rocket didn't make it. Can't wait for the aftermath pictures.
I like money. You like money too? We should hang out.
iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 21:02:40
April 14 2015 20:56 GMT
#1145

GraphicsThis is for all you new people: I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits. You don't do your job, I'll shoot you myself. You get me?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 14 2015 23:19 GMT
#1146
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/588076749562318849



United Launch Alliance (ULA) unveiled its Next Generation Launch System (NGLS) today at the 31st Space Symposium. The new rocket, Vulcan, will transform the future of space by making launch services more affordable and accessible. The NGLS brings together decades of experience on ULA’s reliable Atlas and Delta vehicles, combining the best features of each to produce an all-new, American-made rocket that will enable mission success from low Earth orbit all the way to Pluto.

“More capabilities in space mean more capabilities here on earth,” said Tory Bruno, president and CEO of United Launch Alliance. “Because the Next Generation Launch System will be the highest-performing, most cost-efficient rocket on the market, it will open up new opportunities for the nation’s use of space. Whether it is scientific missions, medical advancements, national security or new economic opportunities for businesses, ULA’s new Vulcan rocket is a game-changer in terms of creating endless possibilities in space.”

To help give all Americans a chance to play a role in the future of space, last month ULA launched an online naming competition that allowed Americans to vote on their favorite name for the NGLS. More than one million votes were cast, and Vulcan was the top choice.

“As the company currently responsible for more than 70 percent of the nation’s space launches, it is only fitting that America got to name the country’s rocket of the future,” added Bruno.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 06:33:42
April 15 2015 06:23 GMT
#1147


GraphicsThis is for all you new people: I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits. You don't do your job, I'll shoot you myself. You get me?
iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
April 15 2015 21:06 GMT
#1148
GraphicsThis is for all you new people: I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits. You don't do your job, I'll shoot you myself. You get me?
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24354 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 21:14:59
April 15 2015 21:13 GMT
#1149
Something about making it land vertically seems counter intuitive. Is there an obvious reason they want it to land that way I'm missing? When they finally do stick it though the Russian judge will still give it a 6 .
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22577 Posts
April 15 2015 21:27 GMT
#1150
On April 16 2015 06:13 GreenHorizons wrote:
Something about making it land vertically seems counter intuitive. Is there an obvious reason they want it to land that way I'm missing? When they finally do stick it though the Russian judge will still give it a 6 .

How would you ever land it horizontally Oo
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Millitron
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2611 Posts
April 15 2015 21:32 GMT
#1151
On April 16 2015 06:13 GreenHorizons wrote:
Something about making it land vertically seems counter intuitive. Is there an obvious reason they want it to land that way I'm missing? When they finally do stick it though the Russian judge will still give it a 6 .

How do you land a rocket horizontally?
Who called in the fleet?
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24354 Posts
April 15 2015 21:39 GMT
#1152
lol I just mean planning for it to tip over once it's touches down/gets close. Maybe the obvious thing I'm missing is that there is no way it could handle falling over structurally. My rocket experience is limited to cheap hobby store ones, which obviously don't have this problem, so perhaps that's what I'm missing.

For instance making it land into a man made hole type thing for a landing pad. Meaning that as long as it made it in there it couldn't tip all the way over.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Millitron
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2611 Posts
April 15 2015 21:53 GMT
#1153
On April 16 2015 06:39 GreenHorizons wrote:
lol I just mean planning for it to tip over once it's touches down/gets close. Maybe the obvious thing I'm missing is that there is no way it could handle falling over structurally. My rocket experience is limited to cheap hobby store ones, which obviously don't have this problem, so perhaps that's what I'm missing.

For instance making it land into a man made hole type thing for a landing pad. Meaning that as long as it made it in there it couldn't tip all the way over.

that's a neat idea. You could have it like a reverse of the shuttle launch gantry. Instead of the arms falling away as it launches, arms come in and grab it as it lands.
Who called in the fleet?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22577 Posts
April 15 2015 21:59 GMT
#1154
My initial thought is that accuracy is a problem but they are landing on the platform so I donno.

Some pretty bright people are working on these things so if they are not doing that I assume it has a reason.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
URfavHO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States514 Posts
April 15 2015 22:00 GMT
#1155
On April 16 2015 06:53 Millitron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 06:39 GreenHorizons wrote:
lol I just mean planning for it to tip over once it's touches down/gets close. Maybe the obvious thing I'm missing is that there is no way it could handle falling over structurally. My rocket experience is limited to cheap hobby store ones, which obviously don't have this problem, so perhaps that's what I'm missing.

For instance making it land into a man made hole type thing for a landing pad. Meaning that as long as it made it in there it couldn't tip all the way over.

that's a neat idea. You could have it like a reverse of the shuttle launch gantry. Instead of the arms falling away as it launches, arms come in and grab it as it lands.

Why not just drill a whole through the layers of the Earth land the rocket in the hole, allow gravity to slow the rocket after it crosses the center of the earth several times, and then just collect the rocket when it is resting in the core of the earth.

EZPZ

so much easier than just creating a reuseable rocket to save millions of dollars per launch.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24354 Posts
April 15 2015 22:05 GMT
#1156
On April 16 2015 06:59 Gorsameth wrote:
My initial thought is that accuracy is a problem but they are landing on the platform so I donno.

Some pretty bright people are working on these things so if they are not doing that I assume it has a reason.


Yeah that's pretty much the process I went through. My curiosity demanded that I at least ask if there was some obvious reason I was missing.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
April 15 2015 22:16 GMT
#1157
Haha that thruster jet thinger on the left side while it's tipping over. Oh crap oh crap oh crap.... ahh fuck it.

This one was way better than last time. So crazy they can even get close...
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-16 01:09:55
April 16 2015 01:02 GMT
#1158
When you think about it, it really does seem crazy to land something with such a high centre of mass without any lateral support. I mean, it's basically a rocket-powered pencil with teeny-tiny feet. Even if they got it down I feel like it would fall over in a stiff breeze or a bit of swell.

Regardless, it's still insane that they can even get it down soft on target. I wonder if that took so much wizardry they just kind of forgot about what happens after.
JumboJohnson
Profile Joined December 2011
537 Posts
April 16 2015 01:13 GMT
#1159
I'll bet it has some sort of gyroscope to help it stay upright.
Millitron
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2611 Posts
April 16 2015 02:26 GMT
#1160
On April 16 2015 10:02 Belisarius wrote:
When you think about it, it really does seem crazy to land something with such a high centre of mass without any lateral support. I mean, it's basically a rocket-powered pencil with teeny-tiny feet. Even if they got it down I feel like it would fall over in a stiff breeze or a bit of swell.

Regardless, it's still insane that they can even get it down soft on target. I wonder if that took so much wizardry they just kind of forgot about what happens after.

I imagine there's a crane or something on the barge to gently lay the rocket down for transit.

Or they just plan on only using it if there's absolutely no waves.
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