So I assume the weight of the space shuttle itself isn't included. But what I'm curious is that that payload bay of the shuttle looks bigger than the Falcon's, so even Falcon can carry more weight onto space, the size of the cargo looks limited.
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furymonkey
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So I assume the weight of the space shuttle itself isn't included. But what I'm curious is that that payload bay of the shuttle looks bigger than the Falcon's, so even Falcon can carry more weight onto space, the size of the cargo looks limited. | ||
sc14s
United States5052 Posts
On January 29 2015 07:26 furymonkey wrote: According to their website, Falcon heavy can carry 53,000kg to LOW, where Space Shuttle can carry 24,000kg. So I assume the weight of the space shuttle itself isn't included. But what I'm curious is that that payload bay of the shuttle looks bigger than the Falcon's, so even Falcon can carry more weight onto space, the size of the cargo looks limited. What do you mean by looks smaller? I'd say unless you have the actual measurements for both you can't really comment on it. | ||
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
Still, the difference is smaller than I would have imagined. http://www.boeing.com/assets/pdf/defense-space/space/hsfe_shuttle/docs/shuttle_overview.pdf (page 1) | ||
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ondricsc2
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it just BORROWS to finance it. It doesnt have money, the usa got the biggest trade deficit. it has a gigantic-unpayble - national debt. It just very well cant afford it. Should STOP it. Must leave it to private sector. No household can buy stuff OUT OF BURROWED MONEY FOREVER neither GOVERNMENT CAN. | ||
Millitron
United States2611 Posts
On February 03 2015 05:16 ondricsc2 wrote: Government should have stayed OUT OF financing such endeavors. it just BORROWS to finance it. It doesnt have money, the usa got the biggest trade deficit. it has a gigantic-unpayble - national debt. It just very well cant afford it. Should STOP it. Must leave it to private sector. No household can buy stuff OUT OF BURROWED MONEY FOREVER neither GOVERNMENT CAN. Cost of the entirety of NASA, from foundation to today, is $101 billion. The F35 fighter program has cost the US $910 billion already, and still hasn't entered service. And even when it does enter service, we don't need an X-wing to bomb illiterate people in mud huts on the other side of the planet. If you want to keep up the household analogy, Obama could look under the sofa cushions and find enough change to pay for Space X's contract. | ||
{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
The United States government has taken a new but preliminary step to encourage commercial development of the moon. U.S. companies can stake claims to lunar territory through an existing licensing process for space launches, according to documents obtained by Reuters. The Federal Aviation Administration, in a previously undisclosed late-December letter to Bigelow Aerospace, said the agency intends to “leverage the FAA’s existing launch licensing authority to encourage private sector investments in space systems by ensuring that commercial activities can be conducted on a noninterference basis.” In other words, experts said, Bigelow could set up one of its proposed inflatable habitats on the moon and expect to have exclusive rights to that territory as well as related areas that might be tapped for mining, exploration and other activities. However, the FAA letter noted a concern flagged by the U.S. State Department that “the national regulatory framework, in its present form, is ill-equipped to enable the U.S. government to fulfill its obligations” under a 1967 United Nations treaty, which, in part, governs activities on the moon. The United Nations Outer Space treaty requires countries to authorize and supervise activities of nongovernment entities that are operating in space, including the moon. It also bans nuclear weapons in space, prohibits national claims to celestial bodies and stipulates that space exploration and development should benefit all countries. Source | ||
Millitron
United States2611 Posts
When has a UN treaty ever stopped anyone from doing anything? | ||
Yurie
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On February 05 2015 03:45 Millitron wrote: When has a UN treaty ever stopped anyone from doing anything? It doesn't stop anything. It makes it less desirable to do certain things. https://www.unglobalcompact.org/aboutthegc/thetenprinciples/ Stuff like this are followed by a lot of companies (including the one I work for), which makes the UN have reach below the government level. I feel the UN has a lot of reach in changing perceptions over the generations. Not in actual actions in the here and now. | ||
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