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Also JWST presentation has been delayed, obviously. edit: Apparently it was planned. | ||
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On July 12 2022 09:17 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: Downloaded the full uncompressed PNG of the image. Was going to get the TIF but decided a PNG was good enough. This is really mesmerizing to look at at high res. If you haven't, here's a link Full Res Bonkers that the early release didn't send out the full hi res image. I had to do a double take and compare the hubble vs webb from the same sky area at first to see the differences. I couldn't believe how few pixels were in the twitter news posts. And this image was just 2 hours of exposure vs Hubble's 10 days! Tomorrows images are going to be insane. | ||
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On July 12 2022 13:30 Starlightsun wrote: I'm amazed that this telescope only cost $10 billion... Our failure of a city rail project is already more expensive. Just think what humanity could do with better resource allocation. Whats more amaze! amaze! is that JWST was targeted to cost less than a billion. But cost ballooned over two decades. NASA is usually fantastic with mission driven projects like this one, but JWST decided to tackle a dozen or so new challenges / technologies before launch. Most of JPL or APL come in under budget. Just imagine if our military budget was slashed by 10% and instead went into NASA. I'd vote for that administration. We could have 3 Titan Dragonfly's buzzing around Titan / Europa / Enceladus right now, and perhaps Artemis / Starship would already have a permanent Antarctica styled base on the lunar surface. Mars manned missions in prep, microbial past life discovered, and examined. | ||
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On July 12 2022 14:01 Husyelt wrote: Whats more amaze! amaze! is that JWST was targeted to cost less than a billion. But cost ballooned over two decades. NASA is usually fantastic with mission driven projects like this one, but JWST decided to tackle a dozen or so new challenges / technologies before launch. Most of JPL or APL come in under budget. Just imagine if our military budget was slashed by 10% and instead went into NASA. I'd vote for that administration. We could have 3 Titan Dragonfly's buzzing around Titan / Europa / Enceladus right now, and perhaps Artemis / Starship would already have a permanent Antarctica styled base on the lunar surface. Mars manned missions in prep, microbial past life discovered, and examined. Too bad our wisdom doesn't keep pace with our knowledge. | ||
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On July 12 2022 09:17 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: Downloaded the full uncompressed PNG of the image. Was going to get the TIF but decided a PNG was good enough. This is really mesmerizing to look at at high res. If you haven't, here's a link Full Res Comparing it to the images from hubble is just mind boggling. A dim smudge from Hubble is a bright galaxy with clearly defined arms, or a cluster galaxy with star forming regions of activity or the smudges of lensing that are real galaxies that could be mathematically reconstructed, and so many other details. And then you look at the background, and you see thousands upon thousands of tiny little specks of light, that are all galaxies that were previously completely invisible. And if there are so many out there where previously there was nothing, there must be tens of thousands more just redshifted beyond the reach of James Webb, or too dim to recover with the detectors inside. Just seeing close to the edge of our observable universe (There probably is more out there, beyond the edge of light that we can see) is already amazing. All the billions it cost, all the delays were absolutely worth it for what this telescope can do. A meagre price for the absolute treasure trove of science that can be done. The images moved the people who made it to tears, and I honestly can't blame them. It's an absolute marvel of engineering. There are probably PHD's that can be done just on this image alone, and this was just 12 hours. I'm eagerly awaiting the images tomorrow, because while this one already is absolutely stunning, there were a bunch more that were taken that I'm sure are equally incredible. | ||
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