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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 06 2022 15:33 GMT
#4441
hooray!

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 07 2022 13:22 GMT
#4442
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 09 2022 18:47 GMT
#4443
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 10 2022 22:33 GMT
#4444
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 11 2022 00:47 GMT
#4445
Heads up.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 11 2022 01:37 GMT
#4446
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 11 2022 20:30 GMT
#4447
30 minute warning.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-11 21:47:41
July 11 2022 21:30 GMT
#4448
There was been a rupture/small explosion on the S24... seems everything is still in tact. Kinda.



Also JWST presentation has been delayed, obviously.

edit: Apparently it was planned.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 11 2022 22:13 GMT
#4449
Starting!

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 11 2022 22:22 GMT
#4450
first image.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Yrr
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany804 Posts
July 11 2022 22:48 GMT
#4451
The image is really nice but the press conference was a waste of time..
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9014 Posts
July 12 2022 00:17 GMT
#4452
Downloaded the full uncompressed PNG of the image. Was going to get the TIF but decided a PNG was good enough. This is really mesmerizing to look at at high res. If you haven't, here's a link
Full Res
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 12 2022 02:05 GMT
#4453
So apparently there was more damage than expected, so something went wrong.


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States837 Posts
July 12 2022 03:27 GMT
#4454
On July 12 2022 09:17 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Downloaded the full uncompressed PNG of the image. Was going to get the TIF but decided a PNG was good enough. This is really mesmerizing to look at at high res. If you haven't, here's a link
Full Res

Bonkers that the early release didn't send out the full hi res image. I had to do a double take and compare the hubble vs webb from the same sky area at first to see the differences. I couldn't believe how few pixels were in the twitter news posts.

And this image was just 2 hours of exposure vs Hubble's 10 days! Tomorrows images are going to be insane.
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
July 12 2022 04:30 GMT
#4455
I'm amazed that this telescope only cost $10 billion... Our failure of a city rail project is already more expensive. Just think what humanity could do with better resource allocation.
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States837 Posts
July 12 2022 05:01 GMT
#4456
On July 12 2022 13:30 Starlightsun wrote:
I'm amazed that this telescope only cost $10 billion... Our failure of a city rail project is already more expensive. Just think what humanity could do with better resource allocation.

Whats more amaze! amaze! is that JWST was targeted to cost less than a billion. But cost ballooned over two decades. NASA is usually fantastic with mission driven projects like this one, but JWST decided to tackle a dozen or so new challenges / technologies before launch. Most of JPL or APL come in under budget.

Just imagine if our military budget was slashed by 10% and instead went into NASA. I'd vote for that administration. We could have 3 Titan Dragonfly's buzzing around Titan / Europa / Enceladus right now, and perhaps Artemis / Starship would already have a permanent Antarctica styled base on the lunar surface. Mars manned missions in prep, microbial past life discovered, and examined.
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
July 12 2022 06:59 GMT
#4457
On July 12 2022 14:01 Husyelt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2022 13:30 Starlightsun wrote:
I'm amazed that this telescope only cost $10 billion... Our failure of a city rail project is already more expensive. Just think what humanity could do with better resource allocation.

Whats more amaze! amaze! is that JWST was targeted to cost less than a billion. But cost ballooned over two decades. NASA is usually fantastic with mission driven projects like this one, but JWST decided to tackle a dozen or so new challenges / technologies before launch. Most of JPL or APL come in under budget.

Just imagine if our military budget was slashed by 10% and instead went into NASA. I'd vote for that administration. We could have 3 Titan Dragonfly's buzzing around Titan / Europa / Enceladus right now, and perhaps Artemis / Starship would already have a permanent Antarctica styled base on the lunar surface. Mars manned missions in prep, microbial past life discovered, and examined.


Too bad our wisdom doesn't keep pace with our knowledge.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-12 07:41:38
July 12 2022 07:36 GMT
#4458
On July 12 2022 09:17 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Downloaded the full uncompressed PNG of the image. Was going to get the TIF but decided a PNG was good enough. This is really mesmerizing to look at at high res. If you haven't, here's a link
Full Res

Comparing it to the images from hubble is just mind boggling. A dim smudge from Hubble is a bright galaxy with clearly defined arms, or a cluster galaxy with star forming regions of activity or the smudges of lensing that are real galaxies that could be mathematically reconstructed, and so many other details.

And then you look at the background, and you see thousands upon thousands of tiny little specks of light, that are all galaxies that were previously completely invisible. And if there are so many out there where previously there was nothing, there must be tens of thousands more just redshifted beyond the reach of James Webb, or too dim to recover with the detectors inside. Just seeing close to the edge of our observable universe (There probably is more out there, beyond the edge of light that we can see) is already amazing.

All the billions it cost, all the delays were absolutely worth it for what this telescope can do. A meagre price for the absolute treasure trove of science that can be done. The images moved the people who made it to tears, and I honestly can't blame them. It's an absolute marvel of engineering.

There are probably PHD's that can be done just on this image alone, and this was just 12 hours. I'm eagerly awaiting the images tomorrow, because while this one already is absolutely stunning, there were a bunch more that were taken that I'm sure are equally incredible.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9014 Posts
July 12 2022 10:58 GMT
#4459
It's just...so much. Seeinh those tiny galaxies in such clarity and knowing that this is only one tiny part is...astounding. I can't wait for the next batch and every batch that comes after. I'm definitely getting these printed if I can.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11712 Posts
July 12 2022 12:23 GMT
#4460
I love that we can see nearly 5 billion years into the past with this clarity.
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