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On December 13 2010 18:58 PaPoolee wrote:
You guys are retarded, I don't get it, you are refusing to do something about people who insult other peoples religions? I mean would you be okay with it if you were a Christian and somebody made stupid drawings of Jesus or something and spread it around the world
Yeah i would be pretty ok with that.
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On December 13 2010 18:58 PaPoolee wrote:
You guys are retarded, I don't get it, you are refusing to do something about people who insult other peoples religions? I mean would you be okay with it if you were a Christian and somebody made stupid drawings of Jesus or something and spread it around the world?
Do you mean something like if an artist took a small crucifix and submerged it in human urine? What happened? Well, a few people got upset. But nothing too serious. Can you imagine what would happen if something similar was done with an image of Muhammad?
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@ PaPoolee Pls look out what you say.
To be honest, I think that every religion is completly non sense. So I you wanna offend jesus (what the muslims do a lot, they censor him and hide informations about him but np) I really do not care. And I think the most other people would agree if I say, that also the most christians would not give a shit about it. Ofc there are some idiots in every country and religion that would feel offended, but that is not a big deal. Religions are pretty personal things and you should learn to accept the oppinion of others.
But this is a rare thing for people of your kind huh?
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On December 13 2010 18:58 PaPoolee wrote:
You guys are retarded, I don't get it, you are refusing to do something about people who insult other peoples religions? I mean would you be okay with it if you were a Christian and somebody made stupid drawings of Jesus or something and spread it around the world? By saying "Many countries have a policy of not negotiating with terrorists" do you mean that all the Islam religion and Muslims are terrorists just because of the doing of some retarded suicide bomber who thought he is something but really he isn't and he deserved to die? if you are then you've got serious problems, every single country and religion has some fucked up people! you cant judge everyone by the doing of one person. I'm not going to argue about this here because I'm easily out numbered... but seriously! grow the fuck up!.
now lets see.. go watch the quite popular movies.. life of brian.. and meaning of life.. certainly no mocking of any religions there right?
christianity has been ravaged so hard by jokes and mockery that its starting to get hard to even define a line between fun and normal 
go go urine jesus!
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On December 13 2010 18:57 BeWat3r wrote:
I think T.O.P has some good points on his side.
One of the biggest problems with those extremists is, they hide themself under the sheet of the muslims. They may say, they belong to this certain group, but the things they do, do not have anything in common with the Qran.
I think you need to read the Quran
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Ofc not, freedom of speech all the way BUT, Vilks is an attention seeking bitch that needs to get slapped around . Just 'cause you CAN say something, doesnt mean you SHOULD say it.
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On December 13 2010 19:15 daz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2010 18:57 BeWat3r wrote:
I think T.O.P has some good points on his side.
One of the biggest problems with those extremists is, they hide themself under the sheet of the muslims. They may say, they belong to this certain group, but the things they do, do not have anything in common with the Qran.
I think you need to read the Quran
you didnt read it yourself so better dont start this discussion.
And there is no need to ban these Cartoons. It should be a matter of respect not do to this. Making a Muhammad cartoon just shows off the witlessness of the cartoonist if he cant think of something original, and has to insult the vast majority of muslims, who are perfectly fine people just to annoy some extremists.
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allow free speech or the terrorists win
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On December 13 2010 19:05 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2010 18:58 PaPoolee wrote:
You guys are retarded, I don't get it, you are refusing to do something about people who insult other peoples religions? I mean would you be okay with it if you were a Christian and somebody made stupid drawings of Jesus or something and spread it around the world? Do you mean something like if an artist took a small crucifix and submerged it in human urine? What happened? Well, a few people got upset. But nothing too serious. Can you imagine what would happen if something similar was done with an image of Muhammad?
People who do such things like assault someone who drew a picture are just RETARDED and you should understand that i do NOT support them at all... but legal action has to be taken against people with such ignorance to insult other peoples religions! here's a quote from the Qur'an:
Verse 6 of Surat Al-Kafirun (The non-believers)
"Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion."
I hope you understood it, and i hope you understood that people who use force or illegal ways to deal with such things are STUPID and RETARDED and fucked up in their brain, people should be taken legal actions not illegal actions!.
On December 13 2010 19:05 BeWat3r wrote:
@ PaPoolee Pls look out what you say.
To be honest, I think that every religion is completly non sense. So I you wanna offend jesus (what the muslims do a lot, they censor him and hide informations about him but np) I really do not care. And I think the most other people would agree if I say, that also the most christians would not give a shit about it. Ofc there are some idiots in every country and religion that would feel offended, but that is not a big deal. Religions are pretty personal things and you should learn to accept the oppinion of others.
But this is a rare thing for people of your kind huh?
Why would i ever want to offend Jesus? what has Jesus ever done to me? are you stupid?.
Muslims censor Jesus as a sign of respect because they do not wish to draw false photographs of him etc, not to hide information about him dumb ass! if most Christians don't care about their religion then its their problem! but Muslims do care and anyone who cares about their religion would feel offended if someone insults it! people who feel offended are not stupid, you are  what do you mean "people of your kind"? We are all humans! maybe if you stopped being an ignorant racist jerk and done some research you would understand! but like I said I'm easily out numbered here so yeah...
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The way people use Freedom of speech is funny. Would it be ok for me to make fun of the holocaust? I'm not harming anybody. Sure its insensitive, stupid and only there to piss off people but isn't that what this guy is doing?
Its freedom of speech when you like it to be, its insensitive and cruel when you like it to be.
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On December 13 2010 19:20 Blobskillz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2010 19:15 daz wrote:On December 13 2010 18:57 BeWat3r wrote:
I think T.O.P has some good points on his side.
One of the biggest problems with those extremists is, they hide themself under the sheet of the muslims. They may say, they belong to this certain group, but the things they do, do not have anything in common with the Qran.
I think you need to read the Quran you didnt read it yourself so better dont start this discussion. And there is no need to ban these Cartoons. It should be a matter of respect not do to this. Making a Muhammad cartoon just shows off the witlessness of the cartoonist if he cant think of something original, and has to insult the vast majority of muslims, who are perfectly fine people just to annoy some extremists.
Thank you, I have read the Qur'an and people like the suicide bombers just try to hide themselves under the sheet of Muslims and Islam but like you said, they have nothing in common with the Qur'an and the Islam religion! because any religion that provokes people to suicide is silly, and you should know that the Qur'an mentions that suicide is a one way ticket to hell .
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On December 13 2010 19:15 daz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2010 18:57 BeWat3r wrote:
I think T.O.P has some good points on his side.
One of the biggest problems with those extremists is, they hide themself under the sheet of the muslims. They may say, they belong to this certain group, but the things they do, do not have anything in common with the Qran.
I think you need to read the Quran
I did :-) Ofc the old parts are as retared as the old parts of the bible but there is nothing like : Hey lets kill all infidels.
The problem is, the people who commit those sucizide attacks got blinded by some false prophets. They tell them what to do not the Quran. Pretty simple because most of those people can not read, so they do follow everything they have been told
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On December 13 2010 19:25 sekritzzz wrote:
The way people use Freedom of speech is funny. Would it be ok for me to make fun of the holocaust? I'm not harming anybody. Sure its insensitive, stupid and only there to piss off people but isn't that what this guy is doing?
Its freedom of speech when you like it to be, its insensitive and cruel when you like it to be.
Freedom of speech is a legal concept. Whether or not it is morally okay, insensitive or what not has no effect on whether the speech falls under the protection of the right to free speech. Or at least it should be (depends on where you live).
Whether something falls under or should fall under free speech and whether that speech is 'okay' is two different questions.
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if you know something will enrage someone, and then you do that something, why are you suprised or try to defend yourself with freedom of speech crap.
Its just a matter of action getting a reaction. if you cant deal with the reaction then dont do it.
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On December 13 2010 19:28 BeWat3r wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2010 19:15 daz wrote:On December 13 2010 18:57 BeWat3r wrote:
I think T.O.P has some good points on his side.
One of the biggest problems with those extremists is, they hide themself under the sheet of the muslims. They may say, they belong to this certain group, but the things they do, do not have anything in common with the Qran.
I think you need to read the Quran I did :-) Ofc the old parts are as retared as the old parts of the bible but there is nothing like : Hey lets kill all infidels. The problem is, the people who commit those sucizide attacks got blinded by some false prophets. They tell them what to do not the Quran. Pretty simple because most of those people can not read, so they do follow everything they have been told
Where are you getting the information your stating here? and where exactly have you read the Qur'an? What exactly do you mean by "the old parts are as retared as the old parts of the bible but there is nothing like : Hey lets kill all infidels."? What old parts are you talking about? do they release a new version of the Qur'an and the Bible every couple of months? are you stupid?.
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On December 13 2010 19:30 Sanjuro wrote:
if you know something will enrage someone, and then you do that something, why are you suprised or try to defend yourself with freedom of speech crap.
Its just a matter of action getting a reaction. if you cant deal with the reaction then dont do it.
Because you are protected by the right to free speech. It's a legitimate defense. You don't get the right to hurt someone because you don't like what they said: the person is still legally protected.
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Religion is no excuse to terrorise people, I honestly think the world would be better off without christianity and islam. And Papoole, Sweden has a right to criticise, satire and free speech, just because it is your religion doesn't mean that it is free from criticism. If a religion said the moon is the protoss god or something equally stupid they must expect criticism. Religion has for so long gone without criticism, because of "IT IS MY FAITH !, HOW DARE YOU!".
Stupid drawings of jesus, lol. Chill out dudes.
Edit: Religion is stupid, but people are brought up to believe it and never question it. If islam and christianity were gone we would have an easier time just finding the racists.
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Its really easy to say "of course we should stand up for ourselves, don't give in to fear" but it gets alot harder when you yourself am in the crossfire. But of course we should stand up for ourselves.
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On December 13 2010 19:32 PaPoolee wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2010 19:28 BeWat3r wrote:On December 13 2010 19:15 daz wrote:On December 13 2010 18:57 BeWat3r wrote:
I think T.O.P has some good points on his side.
One of the biggest problems with those extremists is, they hide themself under the sheet of the muslims. They may say, they belong to this certain group, but the things they do, do not have anything in common with the Qran.
I think you need to read the Quran I did :-) Ofc the old parts are as retared as the old parts of the bible but there is nothing like : Hey lets kill all infidels. The problem is, the people who commit those sucizide attacks got blinded by some false prophets. They tell them what to do not the Quran. Pretty simple because most of those people can not read, so they do follow everything they have been told Where are you getting the information your stating here? and where exactly have you read the Qur'an? What exactly do you mean by "the old parts are as retared as the old parts of the bible but there is nothing like : Hey lets kill all infidels."? What old parts are you talking about? do they release a new version of the Qur'an and the Bible every couple of months? are you stupid?.
shot in the dark!
old testament?
as in older than the new testament.. even though the new testament is pretty damn old?
dont go jumping out of your shoes for nothing here bucko 
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Im sorry that i cant express everything I want in english as it is not my main language. By old parts I mean the old testament. And yeah the bible got censored and the same happend with the Quran. You shouldnt speak out so load if you have no idead :-)
And you also seem to be pretty slow because if I am talking about the old party Im talking about old in the sense of time. There are parts that were written earlier or later, so the old parts must be the ones that got written earlier.
And with kill all the infidels im talking about that there is nothing written down in the Quran that says that muslims are supposed to kill infidels
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