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On November 24 2010 07:30 smallblacksun wrote:It must be pointed out that al-jazeera has a strong anti-Israel (and by extension anti-US) bias, and that it is controlled by the Saudi royal family. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't watch it, just that you should take their biases into account (like any news source).
Funny, all the news casts I've watched on Al-jazeera in the past during various crisis' have been the most informative and professional next to BBC.
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i do find the NLL bias though...i won't be happy if i was dprk
( i was about to add zerg reference but i'll stop ^_^;; )
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Start of WW3?
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On November 24 2010 07:44 lowlypawn wrote:
Start of WW3?
Just the end of the armistice.
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On November 24 2010 07:44 lowlypawn wrote:
Start of WW3?
Fuck I hope not. I turn 18 in 5 months and there would surely be another draft if things got world scale. Fuck life.
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i'm a traitor 
my mom made me into an american citizen :O
no jury duty yet! 
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On November 24 2010 07:30 smallblacksun wrote:It must be pointed out that al-jazeera has a strong anti-Israel (and by extension anti-US) bias, and that it is controlled by the Saudi royal family. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't watch it, just that you should take their biases into account (like any news source).
Al Jazeera is owned and controlled by the Qatari emirate. Check your facts...
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On November 24 2010 07:33 jinorazi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2010 07:31 Kinzee wrote:
Has no one heard from Artosis, Tasteless or any of the other foreign SC2 players? Are they evacuating or what? I know I would... no matter how much I love SC2 I don't think I'd risk being mired in a war over it. the capital in unaffected. from the reports, people are concerned(for the island) but not enough to cause panic.
YET being the key word. I'd leave now before all the flights get booked and S Korean airspace gets crowded by military planes... Do you see on that map how close Yeonpyeong is to Seoul?!
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If war breaks out the US is going to be involved. We have had troops in Korea since the beginning of the Korean War, so a full blown war between North and South Korea will get the US involved Day 1.
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Is NK really trying to take "baby steps" to destroy portions of SK? In other words, are they harassing SK a bit by bit, cool the tension, come back with a bit stronger force, and so on?
I'm taking psychology right now, and we just learned that you can actually have someone do a huge favor if he's accepted a past smaller favor of yours. The foot in the door technique. I know it's not a parallel analogy to what I'm talking about, but I don't doubt that it has similar effects. For example, if someone constantly annoyed you with a pat in the back, you may not be aware of a stronger pat in a few weeks.
If I recall, there have been past conflicts between NK and SK, and they seem to gradually build up.
So my question is: Are we ever going to take a step to stop this type of harassment? It seems like no one wants to take measures to prevent future conflicts, but if this goes on, the damage may be worse.
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Funny but probably accurate assessment of the situation I saw on reddit:
The North Korea v South Korea hypothetical war is a war that's never going to happen.
Why? Because it just can't be allowed to happen on all sides.
You've got Kim Jong Il up there in the starving North surrounded by his cult of personality, polishing off a bottle of vodka every night in his palatial mansion while surfing porn on the only non cock blocked internet in North Korea. His health is fucked and he's about to hand the gravy train off to one of his sons. He picked the youngest one because he's the least retarded and therefore the least likely to start a war with the South and, by doing so, remove the entire "Il" family from the human genepool. The North has a huge army but shit equipment and a shit airforce. All they have is a shitload of brainwashed youngmen that they could toss into the ring as human wave attacks like the Red Army did against the Germans in 1941. Result: 3 million casualties for nothing.
In the South, they've got a rich 'democracy' (are there any real democracies in the world today?) well aware that its capital is in artillery range of their nutty brother. They get a little touchy about this. South Korea is like some famous movie star who has this awkward little brother who has a habit of masturbating in public and ruining famous older brother's credibility. You can slap him around for doing it but that'll just cause you even more trouble for child abuse. Your only choice is to sit there and enjoy your prosperity and accept the fact that your brother jizzes on you every so often.
Also, the US has fifty thousand troops in the DMZ, so any conflict here will draw in the US which supplies/allows North Korea heating oil and rice in exchange for them not pulling their dick out of their pants.
Still more, China, that country with 1.3 billion people and who bought more new automobiles than the US last year, well, you see, they use North Korea as a buffer zone on the Asian peninsula against encroaching capitalism. LOL seriously! China slaps the shit out of Kim Jong anytime he gets 'ronery' and tries shit with the South because they have no interest in anything that draws the Americans onto the Asian mainland anymoreso than they are already. (Japan, Afghanistan, trade/oil deals with the other 'stans south and east of the Himalayas)
China is run by savvy engineers who know that the only way to win the global chess game is to win structurally and economically. They view the Americans as trigger happy dumbfucks with a big navy, nukes and no money. Having no money makes Americans mad. China would prefer to keep quiet about it, not say anything about the precarious fiscal situation and allow America to destroy itself all by itself which is a pretty good bet if you're Chinese and watch US reality TV.
So put down the popcorn, there is never gonna be a war on the Korean peninsula because big guys behind the scenes have too much to lose.
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On November 24 2010 07:51 jinorazi wrote:i'm a traitor my mom made me into an american citizen :O no jury duty yet!
If you had a dual citizenship between Korea and USA, then later relinquished your Korean citizenship for the USA when you turned 18, you can still get drafted in the SK army if you stay in Korea for too long a period. Just an fyi so you don't go on some summer trip in SK then get stuck in the military for two years.
Edit: I think the rationale was to prevent Korean families to go to USA and have kids just to get around the mandatory military service.
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I bet N Korea is like at the end of a AOE game you and your enemy have this huge force on the border, but once you get the balls to attack you find behind the wall there are only farmers and one dude building a wonder
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On November 24 2010 07:59 KevinIX wrote:Funny but probably accurate assessment of the situation I saw on reddit: Show nested quote +The North Korea v South Korea hypothetical war is a war that's never going to happen.
Why? Because it just can't be allowed to happen on all sides.
You've got Kim Jong Il up there in the starving North surrounded by his cult of personality, polishing off a bottle of vodka every night in his palatial mansion while surfing porn on the only non cock blocked internet in North Korea. His health is fucked and he's about to hand the gravy train off to one of his sons. He picked the youngest one because he's the least retarded and therefore the least likely to start a war with the South and, by doing so, remove the entire "Il" family from the human genepool. The North has a huge army but shit equipment and a shit airforce. All they have is a shitload of brainwashed youngmen that they could toss into the ring as human wave attacks like the Red Army did against the Germans in 1941. Result: 3 million casualties for nothing.
In the South, they've got a rich 'democracy' (are there any real democracies in the world today?) well aware that its capital is in artillery range of their nutty brother. They get a little touchy about this. South Korea is like some famous movie star who has this awkward little brother who has a habit of masturbating in public and ruining famous older brother's credibility. You can slap him around for doing it but that'll just cause you even more trouble for child abuse. Your only choice is to sit there and enjoy your prosperity and accept the fact that your brother jizzes on you every so often.
Also, the US has fifty thousand troops in the DMZ, so any conflict here will draw in the US which supplies/allows North Korea heating oil and rice in exchange for them not pulling their dick out of their pants.
Still more, China, that country with 1.3 billion people and who bought more new automobiles than the US last year, well, you see, they use North Korea as a buffer zone on the Asian peninsula against encroaching capitalism. LOL seriously! China slaps the shit out of Kim Jong anytime he gets 'ronery' and tries shit with the South because they have no interest in anything that draws the Americans onto the Asian mainland anymoreso than they are already. (Japan, Afghanistan, trade/oil deals with the other 'stans south and east of the Himalayas)
China is run by savvy engineers who know that the only way to win the global chess game is to win structurally and economically. They view the Americans as trigger happy dumbfucks with a big navy, nukes and no money. Having no money makes Americans mad. China would prefer to keep quiet about it, not say anything about the precarious fiscal situation and allow America to destroy itself all by itself which is a pretty good bet if you're Chinese and watch US reality TV.
So put down the popcorn, there is never gonna be a war on the Korean peninsula because big guys behind the scenes have too much to lose.
Thanks for pasting this over. That in large part sums it up. War breaking out is a possibility, but the reasons that poster outlined are the main reasons why it shouldn't and most likely will not happen. No one in the world wants a war to break out there except perhaps NKorea - a country with nothing to lose, really.
Only thing against that poster is..."Kim" is Kim Jong Il's family name...Jong Il is his given name...retard.
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People are always angry and want to lash out right after something like this happens (like SKoreas promises to, "retaliate."). Hopefully after a bit they'll calm down.
Though I'm not saying directly that this will blow over for sure like the past events (something will eventually push SKorea too hard and they'll have to fight back), but NKorea's been doing this for a while. Nothing's happened yet, so hopefully this'll end up okay...
Fun Fact: As I was writing this, Avenged Sevenfold's song Danger Line came on. I don't really like it that much, but it's pretty fitting....
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On November 24 2010 07:44 lowlypawn wrote:
Start of WW3?
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how is that even possible when noone will back n korea
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