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storkfan
Profile Joined March 2012
493 Posts
May 21 2012 16:44 GMT
#3341
Just bought a set of 1euro headphones. have a metal body and decent build. sound fine to me, perhaps a bit too low in high frequency content. so am i a dumbass or what, i cant tell theres nothing wrong with these..
Speake
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States494 Posts
May 21 2012 17:08 GMT
#3342
Hey, i'm currently using Bose AE2 headphones and i enjoy almost everything about these headphones, I'm just simply looking for a better set of headphones (in terms of sound quality mostly) or even a better sound card if possible (i know nothing about either of these). Also, is there a way to tell what sound card i have in my computer?

Could somebody please link me to some of the best <200$ headphones off of amazon? I like to listen to all types of electronic music, classic rock and some hip hop. I like how the BOSE AE2 has a detachable cable attached to the cans so that if the cable gets stuck in my chair the headphones don't break. It'd be cool if any of the links have something like this to protect the headphones

Thanks whoever takes the time to do this!
tQ.Speake
squattincassanova
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States650 Posts
May 21 2012 17:12 GMT
#3343
On May 22 2012 02:08 Speake wrote:
Hey, i'm currently using Bose AE2 headphones and i enjoy almost everything about these headphones, I'm just simply looking for a better set of headphones (in terms of sound quality mostly) or even a better sound card if possible (i know nothing about either of these). Also, is there a way to tell what sound card i have in my computer?

Could somebody please link me to some of the best <200$ headphones off of amazon? I like to listen to all types of electronic music, classic rock and some hip hop. I like how the BOSE AE2 has a detachable cable attached to the cans so that if the cable gets stuck in my chair the headphones don't break. It'd be cool if any of the links have something like this to protect the headphones

Thanks whoever takes the time to do this!


HD595
http://www.youtube.com/squattincassanova (Pickup In-Field) Subscribe if you like!
kineSiS-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Korea (South)1068 Posts
May 21 2012 21:24 GMT
#3344
On May 20 2012 15:29 Myrmidon wrote:
The distortion (or some kind of bad sound) was on the C-Media-based SIIG sound card, which had enough volume. The onboard audio was just quiet. I was talking about amplifying the onboard audio.

For future reference, on a side note, "trash in, trash out" and double amping tend to be misunderstood a lot.
+ Show Spoiler [side note] +
Suppose that one device has high distortion running headphones. This doesn't necessarily mean that it has high distortion when instead connected to the line input of another device like an amplifier. A line input has an impedance of thousands of ohms, so it's a much easier load to drive than headphones are. A trash output (for headphones) can be a good output to another amp. Once you connect an amp, you may no longer have "trash in", so to say. If it was the source's D/A that sucked, then there's nothing to be done though.

It's also very possible that the amp output will clip at a given volume setting into headphones, particularly low-impedance headphones, but not when driving a line input.

Anyway, double amping is often not such a big deal because even poor amplifiers are okay at driving line inputs. Depending on your perspective, you can think of the insides of mixers and other pro audio gear in the studio as having dozens of amplifiers inside—something recorded in the studio passes through a pre-amp and all sorts of other op amps and devices, so that's double / triple / whatever amped already. Most of the degradation in the audio chain comes from the headphones or speakers anyway, and maybe a bit from the amp driving them (since that one has by far the hardest job), or a really sucky D/A.

People tend to ignore or misunderstand that the load makes a huge difference. They just think about Amp 1 (how bad it is driving headphones) and then Amp 2 (driving headphones). When you connect Amp 2 to Amp 1, then Amp 1 may no longer suck nearly as bad as when it's responsible for actually driving headphones.


That was an interesting read.

Still stand by my point to get a FiiO E10.
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
May 21 2012 22:35 GMT
#3345
On May 22 2012 02:12 squattincassanova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 02:08 Speake wrote:
Hey, i'm currently using Bose AE2 headphones and i enjoy almost everything about these headphones, I'm just simply looking for a better set of headphones (in terms of sound quality mostly) or even a better sound card if possible (i know nothing about either of these). Also, is there a way to tell what sound card i have in my computer?

Could somebody please link me to some of the best <200$ headphones off of amazon? I like to listen to all types of electronic music, classic rock and some hip hop. I like how the BOSE AE2 has a detachable cable attached to the cans so that if the cable gets stuck in my chair the headphones don't break. It'd be cool if any of the links have something like this to protect the headphones

Thanks whoever takes the time to do this!


HD595


How about a HD 558 at $180?
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kineSiS-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Korea (South)1068 Posts
May 21 2012 23:26 GMT
#3346
HD558 is better. It is similar to the HD598 and almost identical in SQ with a certain modification.
squattincassanova
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States650 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 03:06:28
May 22 2012 02:47 GMT
#3347
On May 22 2012 07:35 Alabasern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 02:12 squattincassanova wrote:
On May 22 2012 02:08 Speake wrote:
Hey, i'm currently using Bose AE2 headphones and i enjoy almost everything about these headphones, I'm just simply looking for a better set of headphones (in terms of sound quality mostly) or even a better sound card if possible (i know nothing about either of these). Also, is there a way to tell what sound card i have in my computer?

Could somebody please link me to some of the best <200$ headphones off of amazon? I like to listen to all types of electronic music, classic rock and some hip hop. I like how the BOSE AE2 has a detachable cable attached to the cans so that if the cable gets stuck in my chair the headphones don't break. It'd be cool if any of the links have something like this to protect the headphones

Thanks whoever takes the time to do this!


HD595


How about a HD 558 at $180?


I bought a refurbished HD595 one for $140 online
http://www.youtube.com/squattincassanova (Pickup In-Field) Subscribe if you like!
uriel-
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
May 22 2012 03:24 GMT
#3348
On May 22 2012 01:44 storkfan wrote:
Just bought a set of 1euro headphones. have a metal body and decent build. sound fine to me, perhaps a bit too low in high frequency content. so am i a dumbass or what, i cant tell theres nothing wrong with these..


I do wish people would stop posting things like this. Imagine going into a watch enthusiast thread and saying, oh I have this 5 dollar digital watch from the flea market and it tells the time fine. Wat?
Speake
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States494 Posts
May 22 2012 04:49 GMT
#3349
On May 22 2012 07:35 Alabasern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 02:12 squattincassanova wrote:
On May 22 2012 02:08 Speake wrote:
Hey, i'm currently using Bose AE2 headphones and i enjoy almost everything about these headphones, I'm just simply looking for a better set of headphones (in terms of sound quality mostly) or even a better sound card if possible (i know nothing about either of these). Also, is there a way to tell what sound card i have in my computer?

Could somebody please link me to some of the best <200$ headphones off of amazon? I like to listen to all types of electronic music, classic rock and some hip hop. I like how the BOSE AE2 has a detachable cable attached to the cans so that if the cable gets stuck in my chair the headphones don't break. It'd be cool if any of the links have something like this to protect the headphones

Thanks whoever takes the time to do this!


HD595


How about a HD 558 at $180?


How do the Audio Technica ATH-AD700's stack up to this? They are going for 99$ new on amazon right now
tQ.Speake
squattincassanova
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States650 Posts
May 22 2012 19:17 GMT
#3350
On May 22 2012 06:24 kineSiS- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 15:29 Myrmidon wrote:
The distortion (or some kind of bad sound) was on the C-Media-based SIIG sound card, which had enough volume. The onboard audio was just quiet. I was talking about amplifying the onboard audio.

For future reference, on a side note, "trash in, trash out" and double amping tend to be misunderstood a lot.
+ Show Spoiler [side note] +
Suppose that one device has high distortion running headphones. This doesn't necessarily mean that it has high distortion when instead connected to the line input of another device like an amplifier. A line input has an impedance of thousands of ohms, so it's a much easier load to drive than headphones are. A trash output (for headphones) can be a good output to another amp. Once you connect an amp, you may no longer have "trash in", so to say. If it was the source's D/A that sucked, then there's nothing to be done though.

It's also very possible that the amp output will clip at a given volume setting into headphones, particularly low-impedance headphones, but not when driving a line input.

Anyway, double amping is often not such a big deal because even poor amplifiers are okay at driving line inputs. Depending on your perspective, you can think of the insides of mixers and other pro audio gear in the studio as having dozens of amplifiers inside—something recorded in the studio passes through a pre-amp and all sorts of other op amps and devices, so that's double / triple / whatever amped already. Most of the degradation in the audio chain comes from the headphones or speakers anyway, and maybe a bit from the amp driving them (since that one has by far the hardest job), or a really sucky D/A.

People tend to ignore or misunderstand that the load makes a huge difference. They just think about Amp 1 (how bad it is driving headphones) and then Amp 2 (driving headphones). When you connect Amp 2 to Amp 1, then Amp 1 may no longer suck nearly as bad as when it's responsible for actually driving headphones.


That was an interesting read.

Still stand by my point to get a FiiO E10.



I have the FiiO E17, its way better. Looks cooler too.
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Code:Closer
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5 Posts
May 22 2012 22:41 GMT
#3351
Hello,
So far I have read through about 1/4 quarter of this thread and it seems that many people recommend the Sennheiser 555 or its newer model the 558. I look on Amazon and I could not find the following information:
How hard does the headphone press against your ear ?

From what I read in the thread here the headphones are differenciated between open and closed as far as if they let people in the room hear what music you are hearing.
My questions is now, does closed headset always mean that it that its pressed very tightly to your head ?
If so is the 555 / 558 one that presses the headphones very tightly to your head ?
clownfish
Profile Joined December 2010
Angola25 Posts
May 22 2012 23:02 GMT
#3352
On May 23 2012 07:41 Code:Closer wrote:
Hello,
So far I have read through about 1/4 quarter of this thread and it seems that many people recommend the Sennheiser 555 or its newer model the 558. I look on Amazon and I could not find the following information:
How hard does the headphone press against your ear ?

From what I read in the thread here the headphones are differenciated between open and closed as far as if they let people in the room hear what music you are hearing.
My questions is now, does closed headset always mean that it that its pressed very tightly to your head ?
If so is the 555 / 558 one that presses the headphones very tightly to your head ?

neither will sit on your ear they fit around them and are pretty soft i'd say you wouldnt have any problems wearing them for extended periods. Obviously your best option would be to go to pretty much any major electronics retailer and try them out for yourself i have yet to come across a decent store which does not atleast carry the 555/558.
kineSiS-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Korea (South)1068 Posts
May 23 2012 00:41 GMT
#3353
On May 23 2012 04:17 squattincassanova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 06:24 kineSiS- wrote:
On May 20 2012 15:29 Myrmidon wrote:
The distortion (or some kind of bad sound) was on the C-Media-based SIIG sound card, which had enough volume. The onboard audio was just quiet. I was talking about amplifying the onboard audio.

For future reference, on a side note, "trash in, trash out" and double amping tend to be misunderstood a lot.
+ Show Spoiler [side note] +
Suppose that one device has high distortion running headphones. This doesn't necessarily mean that it has high distortion when instead connected to the line input of another device like an amplifier. A line input has an impedance of thousands of ohms, so it's a much easier load to drive than headphones are. A trash output (for headphones) can be a good output to another amp. Once you connect an amp, you may no longer have "trash in", so to say. If it was the source's D/A that sucked, then there's nothing to be done though.

It's also very possible that the amp output will clip at a given volume setting into headphones, particularly low-impedance headphones, but not when driving a line input.

Anyway, double amping is often not such a big deal because even poor amplifiers are okay at driving line inputs. Depending on your perspective, you can think of the insides of mixers and other pro audio gear in the studio as having dozens of amplifiers inside—something recorded in the studio passes through a pre-amp and all sorts of other op amps and devices, so that's double / triple / whatever amped already. Most of the degradation in the audio chain comes from the headphones or speakers anyway, and maybe a bit from the amp driving them (since that one has by far the hardest job), or a really sucky D/A.

People tend to ignore or misunderstand that the load makes a huge difference. They just think about Amp 1 (how bad it is driving headphones) and then Amp 2 (driving headphones). When you connect Amp 2 to Amp 1, then Amp 1 may no longer suck nearly as bad as when it's responsible for actually driving headphones.


That was an interesting read.

Still stand by my point to get a FiiO E10.



I have the FiiO E17, its way better. Looks cooler too.


Actually that's not true. And it's way more expensive, which is a problem for the inquirer. But it is nice.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
May 23 2012 06:33 GMT
#3354
On May 22 2012 13:49 Speake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 07:35 Alabasern wrote:
On May 22 2012 02:12 squattincassanova wrote:
On May 22 2012 02:08 Speake wrote:
Hey, i'm currently using Bose AE2 headphones and i enjoy almost everything about these headphones, I'm just simply looking for a better set of headphones (in terms of sound quality mostly) or even a better sound card if possible (i know nothing about either of these). Also, is there a way to tell what sound card i have in my computer?

Could somebody please link me to some of the best <200$ headphones off of amazon? I like to listen to all types of electronic music, classic rock and some hip hop. I like how the BOSE AE2 has a detachable cable attached to the cans so that if the cable gets stuck in my chair the headphones don't break. It'd be cool if any of the links have something like this to protect the headphones

Thanks whoever takes the time to do this!


HD595


How about a HD 558 at $180?


How do the Audio Technica ATH-AD700's stack up to this? They are going for 99$ new on amazon right now


From what I've read, the AD700s are often considered the best gaming headphones because of their soundstage being incredible in helping out with positional cues. From what I read as well, people often find the AD700s lacking on the lower end of the spectrum.

Never tried one myself though so take what I say with a grain of salt.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
May 23 2012 06:54 GMT
#3355
On May 23 2012 15:33 rebdomine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 13:49 Speake wrote:
On May 22 2012 07:35 Alabasern wrote:
On May 22 2012 02:12 squattincassanova wrote:
On May 22 2012 02:08 Speake wrote:
Hey, i'm currently using Bose AE2 headphones and i enjoy almost everything about these headphones, I'm just simply looking for a better set of headphones (in terms of sound quality mostly) or even a better sound card if possible (i know nothing about either of these). Also, is there a way to tell what sound card i have in my computer?

Could somebody please link me to some of the best <200$ headphones off of amazon? I like to listen to all types of electronic music, classic rock and some hip hop. I like how the BOSE AE2 has a detachable cable attached to the cans so that if the cable gets stuck in my chair the headphones don't break. It'd be cool if any of the links have something like this to protect the headphones

Thanks whoever takes the time to do this!


HD595


How about a HD 558 at $180?


How do the Audio Technica ATH-AD700's stack up to this? They are going for 99$ new on amazon right now


From what I've read, the AD700s are often considered the best gaming headphones because of their soundstage being incredible in helping out with positional cues. From what I read as well, people often find the AD700s lacking on the lower end of the spectrum.

Never tried one myself though so take what I say with a grain of salt.

This is almost exactly my experience. You can get some decent bass using an EQ, but I find it just a bit lacking, and I am by no means a basshead. It is however amazing in the mids and highs though, so you kind of have to decide whether the low price and great soundstage are worth the lack of bass. That being said, I'm not a true audiophile (read: I haven't spent at least $10,000 on headphones), so take this with a grain of salt as well, though from what I've read this is a pretty common attitude.
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
May 23 2012 06:58 GMT
#3356
Is the E6 any good as a cheaper portable amp? out of curiosity

I really want to get RE-262s but they're so expensive...will havta wait for a bit x__x stuck with some generic sony sport in-ear headphones or something. Sound isn't very good I imagine, but at least they fit my ear well.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Bazzyrick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom361 Posts
May 23 2012 10:43 GMT
#3357
Just to make myself purposely seem like a Sports Teacher talking with University Professors, I own a Steelseries Siberia V2, it is perfectly comfortable, its sound is really nice and the voice quality from the microphone is really good.

Just what I need for my variety of gaming ventures.
You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it.
kineSiS-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Korea (South)1068 Posts
May 24 2012 02:55 GMT
#3358
On May 23 2012 15:58 Aerisky wrote:
Is the E6 any good as a cheaper portable amp? out of curiosity

I really want to get RE-262s but they're so expensive...will havta wait for a bit x__x stuck with some generic sony sport in-ear headphones or something. Sound isn't very good I imagine, but at least they fit my ear well.


It's pretty good. You'll need an amplifier for the RE262. With their impedance of over 100 ohms rofl, they won't sound nearly as liquid without.
slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
May 25 2012 05:24 GMT
#3359
Going to Chiunifi Meet 6 in June. Ray Samuels will be there. Anyone else here going?

http://www.head-fi.org/t/606623/chiunifi-6-official-thread-june-16-2012-sheraton-chicago-northbrook-10-am-to-5-pm
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danman23
Profile Joined April 2012
3 Posts
May 25 2012 06:12 GMT
#3360
I rock the Steel Series
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