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Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 18:02:08
October 23 2011 03:01 GMT
#2021
Klipsch Image One should be sold at like $120 Canadian, not $225. I think they're the Denon rip offs or something like that? Anyways, whichever they are, they're overpriced at anything above $125. Maybe a half alternative to the M50s, but not really.

The RE-0s are considered one of the best IEM purchases you can make. Good luck, and I'm sure you'll enjoy them. Careful using them outside cause they cost a pretty penny.

If your headphones are getting staticy with popping noises, it's either your sources are terrible, or the headphones are broken, or it's really shitty quality. I'd assume your sources are terrible if it's your first time using nicer headphones. I'm sorry to say 128kbps mp3 files aren't going to cut it anymore if you use better headphones, because they'll output exactly what the file is. Which is shit with popping and static stuff. If the headphones are broken, then you'll need to figure out how to claim your warranty. And if they're fake, which is really unlikely if you researched before buying, then return them to Amazon and/or file a complaint. It's probably your source being crap though.

Microphone generally suggested is that ZALMAN clip on, but if you're a major first person shooter player I'd get a real headset. You probably can't waste the few seconds in game fixing an annoying microphone. Sadly guys, this is a headphone thread. There's a headset thread somewhere here that can be found easily with a search. Headsets have microphones, headphones don't, that's basically the difference.

Gaming first person shooter wise, you'll want a full sized pair of headphones cause sound doesn't seem so isolated, concentrated and fake. Any gaming otherwise and it makes no difference. The sound will be exactly the same, but better since you have better equipment of course.
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 23 2011 15:21 GMT
#2022
The RE-ZERO and RE-0 are different products btw. The RE-0 is the older model, while the ZERO is the special edition, I think. RE-ZERO is more sensitive (louder; the RE-0 is relatively quiet for an IEM) and has more bass, among other small changes, allegedly.

In general, lossy encoding (with any kind of non-retarded modern encoder) does not produce popping and static sounds. With something like 128 kbps mp3, you will have the upper frequencies chopped off and a lot of approximations and the harder-to-notice softer sounds gone, but I doubt the cause of popping and static would be the encoding. But I guess with old (terrible) encoders at that bitrate, some pre-echo sizzles and other artifacts could possibly sound like popping? It still could be music files that are improperly ripped, but in that case, the popping should happen at exactly the same place in the music every time.

Easiest way to test would be to play stuff straight from a CD or a known good source and see if problems continue.
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 18:03:11
October 23 2011 18:01 GMT
#2023
On October 24 2011 00:21 Myrmidon wrote:
The RE-ZERO and RE-0 are different products btw. The RE-0 is the older model, while the ZERO is the special edition, I think. RE-ZERO is more sensitive (louder; the RE-0 is relatively quiet for an IEM) and has more bass, among other small changes, allegedly.

In general, lossy encoding (with any kind of non-retarded modern encoder) does not produce popping and static sounds. With something like 128 kbps mp3, you will have the upper frequencies chopped off and a lot of approximations and the harder-to-notice softer sounds gone, but I doubt the cause of popping and static would be the encoding. But I guess with old (terrible) encoders at that bitrate, some pre-echo sizzles and other artifacts could possibly sound like popping? It still could be music files that are improperly ripped, but in that case, the popping should happen at exactly the same place in the music every time.

Easiest way to test would be to play stuff straight from a CD or a known good source and see if problems continue.


o.O if it's anything like the RE-0 then it should be amazing. Why couldn't they just make it the RE-00 or RE-0 SE or something...manufacturers like being annoying with product numbers...

I remember getting crackle off some 128kbps mp3, but I'm not sure from my memory if that's just a bad encode or not. There are a lot of terrible encodes floating around the Internet. If they occur at the same place every time and only on some songs then that's probably the case, do what Myrmidon says to check. But make sure you don't give up on them until you're 100% certain they are bad, since you haven't determined whether they're fake or not.
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 23 2011 18:39 GMT
#2024
Oh yeah, there's plenty of bad rips and encodes out and about, but a modern encoder doing 128 kbps from lossless source isn't going to completely mangle the music. Just run some lossless music through LAME 3.98 or whatever is current, and listen for yourself. mp3 encoders from a decade ago are much much worse than they are now, producing much lower quality at the same bitrates.

A occurrence these days is people uploading lossy music to YouTube (so transcoded again by YT), downloading from YouTube, and transcoding yet again...obviously it's going to suck then, even if the final version is a high bitrate.
Kamelixs
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden88 Posts
October 23 2011 18:43 GMT
#2025
Got a pair of Audio-technica m50 in christmas present last year

Works excellent for me since I produce music.
Deep bas and very clear sound
Apus
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand74 Posts
October 23 2011 22:23 GMT
#2026
I have a pair of Sennheiser IE6's for work, modded 555s for home and some 'high end' Sony ear buds for whenever I'm doing work around the house.

Definitely a bit of a Sennheiser fanboy, but I can't see my next upgrade being from them. I'll be looking at getting an amp for use at work too eventually, once the bank balance allows
Eggm
Profile Joined September 2009
United States152 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 22:45:21
October 23 2011 22:42 GMT
#2027
I bought the 440's after reading this thread and must say they sound amaaaazing. I want to use them jogging will sweat ruin them?
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 00:32:23
October 24 2011 00:21 GMT
#2028
On October 24 2011 07:42 Eggm wrote:
I bought the 440's after reading this thread and must say they sound amaaaazing. I want to use them jogging will sweat ruin them?


I'm not sure how well you could run with full sized headphones, but I won't judge.

Sweat can potentially cause problems with the pleather pads, in which they'll absorb too much moisture and start weakening, eventually causing tiny tears in the pads. I think the Shures have an extra set of earpads though, so that'll be your choice. Cotton earpads will absorb a lot of sweat and become kinda sticky and ruined after a while. Same with velour, but probably to a lot lesser extent. If they made real silk earpads, those would be the best choice lol.

I would say that sweat may get inside the headphone and short circuit something, but I sweat a lot on my trashy pair of in ears and nothing's ever happened to them yet (like, ridiculous amount of sweat), so I can't comment whether sweat will break them or not, but it nonetheless seems like a bad idea if you sweat a lot since there's more opportunity for water to ruin full sized headphones than in-ears.

I'd advise against running with full sized headphones just because it's uncomfortable for me to run with anything heavy at all...

I suggest instead a pair of $20 walmart headphones that you don't care if it breaks, and using those. In-ears isolate a lot more, and when you're running you'll need to turn up the volume on full sized to drown out the sound of the cable rustling and hitting your body, or your feet hitting the ground. In ears have better microphonics in general.
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Puph
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
October 24 2011 03:57 GMT
#2029
Image One's were 165 before tax, and I felt a 2 year warranty was needed. From my understanding, it is very difficult to obtain specific sets of headphones in Canada for a good price. I'm not prepared to spend hundreds of dollars to get all the features I did with Klipsh, and to be honest finding a good deal on a good set of cans that ships to canada is not an easy task.

I must say, I do enjoy the sound of the Klipsch Image One quite much and am wondering if I should invest in a portable amp to screw around with the EQ on it instead of my ipod?
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
October 24 2011 04:17 GMT
#2030
Bought an m50 and couldn't be happier thanks to this thread. Works great playing off my cellphone and desktop.
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Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
October 24 2011 04:24 GMT
#2031
On October 24 2011 12:57 Puph wrote:
Image One's were 165 before tax, and I felt a 2 year warranty was needed. From my understanding, it is very difficult to obtain specific sets of headphones in Canada for a good price. I'm not prepared to spend hundreds of dollars to get all the features I did with Klipsh, and to be honest finding a good deal on a good set of cans that ships to canada is not an easy task.

I must say, I do enjoy the sound of the Klipsch Image One quite much and am wondering if I should invest in a portable amp to screw around with the EQ on it instead of my ipod?


Sorry, didn't mean for me to sound as aggressive as I did. Yeah, Canada is extremely stupid, so I've honestly become a huge advocate for all my friends to buy used now instead of new, because people at Head-Fi and in head-fi are usually amazing and honest people. Of course it's always good to be very, very safe when doing any online trading, but Paypal is a great service. Or at least buy new from the states, though it's not really worth it for headphones below $250-ish.

An amplifier is almost always good, but the cost to performance ratio is always a concern. I don't think it'll make too much of a difference, or that it'll be worth your money though. However, with a portable amplifier, you can start saving up for a better amplifier in the future, which is almost always helpful.
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20012 Posts
October 24 2011 04:25 GMT
#2032
Just got in a pair of sennheiser cx200 iems that i picked up cause i couldnt handle my meelectic m9s. The cx200s are light years better and fucking awesome for only 15$, highly recommend for anyone looking for a gym/running IEM. Also been listening to a pair of AKG k430s which i found pretty damn cheap and they didn't sound great out of the box but after burning in a bit they're pretty excellent and very small/portable, i use them for going to class and casual use when i dont wanna carry around my m50's but want something more than my IEMs
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pathy
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Taiwan619 Posts
October 24 2011 09:06 GMT
#2033
On October 23 2011 12:01 Blisse wrote:
If your headphones are getting staticy with popping noises, it's either your sources are terrible, or the headphones are broken, or it's really shitty quality. I'd assume your sources are terrible if it's your first time using nicer headphones. I'm sorry to say 128kbps mp3 files aren't going to cut it anymore if you use better headphones, because they'll output exactly what the file is. Which is shit with popping and static stuff. If the headphones are broken, then you'll need to figure out how to claim your warranty. And if they're fake, which is really unlikely if you researched before buying, then return them to Amazon and/or file a complaint. It's probably your source being crap though.


Def. not source. I was running 320 kp/s Miami Horror mp3's ><. I looked into the telltale signs of being fake and none of them were apparent on my model, so I think they just might be defective.
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gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
October 24 2011 09:20 GMT
#2034
Do you have the same problem with everything you listen too? I had a similar problem with a pair of headphones but it was my media player doing something wonky (meaning I didn't have problem while listening though a browser and such).
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
October 24 2011 09:26 GMT
#2035
Just bought these for $25 NZD (which I beleve is like 18 USD)

So cheap and so good the mic is also good because you can move it around anywhere (The one I bought has a mic) its fantastic, as I usually buy expensive headsets.

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curreh
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia265 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 09:32:09
October 24 2011 09:29 GMT
#2036
hey guys I'm looking to get a new headset with a microphone for ventrilo, I've tried the plantronics 655 and the logitech comfort usb and they've both been horrible, plantronics had really bad sound quality and the logitech is really uncomfortable on my ears despite the name but has good sound quality >_<

Looking for a a cheap comfortable decent sound quality headset <$60-ish

EDIT: wow the post above me just as I posted haha, rogerx those look great! what brand is it? can't really read that writing :S
SlayerS Hwaiting! : )
R4TM
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil140 Posts
October 24 2011 13:15 GMT
#2037
Hi im about to get a hd 800! so glad that i posted it here, im a musical producer from Brazil, starting to put all the work ive created over the years on the net/youtube, when it's done, id be honored by your visit and thumb's up if you like!
JonJLSSlack
Profile Joined February 2011
United States84 Posts
October 24 2011 20:14 GMT
#2038
I have Trittons for 360 and PC gaming. Pretty good sound quality for music as well.
WTFZerg
Profile Joined February 2011
United States704 Posts
October 25 2011 03:40 GMT
#2039
I have a pair of Creative Fatal1tys that my parents bought me one year for christmas. I thought they were gonna blow but I've used them for 3 or 4 years now and I must say, they're pretty damn good.

I'm by no means an audio-freak, though, so they could be downright awful when compared to other headsets. They are really comfy, though.
Might makes right.
foehammer
Profile Joined August 2009
United States80 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 08:33:59
October 25 2011 08:33 GMT
#2040
Alright guys im trying to decide between:

audio technica ath-a7000
Link: http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/headphones/c946e97b349766d2/

Sennheiser HD558 (which btw can be modded up to a 598)
Link: http://www.sennheiserusa.com/around-ear-headphones-acoustic_504631

AKG K 271 MKII
Link: http://www.akg.com/site/products/powerslave,id,1064,pid,1064,nodeid,2,_language,EN.html

Shure srh840:
Link: http://www.shure.com/americas/products/earphones-headphones/headphones/srh840-professional-monitoring-headphones

I'll be using them from my laptop, desktop or android phone with no amp or anything. I dont want the bass to be overpowering, I want it to be clean yet slightly stronger than a natural sound because i listen to a lot of electronic music (day 9-esque stuff as well as house/electro pop) as well as hard rock. I listen to some classical music as well as a lot of live music. Besides the bass restriction i just want the sound to be as clean, natural, and balanced as possible.

I want to know which one of those cans has the most balanced and natural sound as well as the nicest sound stage so I can finally decide!

Thanks for any help!
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