EPTHipster article by co-founder of Vice - Page 5
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Kwidowmaker
Canada978 Posts
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Lektrik
Canada20 Posts
They are exclusionist for no god damn reason. I totally get the style, and sometimes it even works kinda well. Some people truly pull off the fashion and they really do know some of the most obscure music that isn't just cool because it's so bad that nobody else likes it. Hipsters definitely drive trends and I like that. I just hate the high horse they get on about why their fashion and their music is so much better than everybody else's. Not for a specific reason, but because "I wouldn't get it". That is what makes me hate them. That, coupled with being in a university town where it really is a bunch of trust-fund kiddies pretending they're "urban", and I just can never, ever like hipsters. And someone was asking what a hipster is, and to that I say: Watch a BlackBerry commercial. All of them are what I would call "hipster douchebags". Their marketing department should be shot. | ||
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Cuticle
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In the postmodern quest to assemble validity, mistakes are made by misguided individuals who portray themselves as in and hip.Those missteps are used by those outside the subculture to denigrate the entirety of the subculture, even those who aren't perpetrating the villainy of starbucks and genuinely shitty music. People who hate hipsters as a whole are not unlike people who hate Islam because there are terrorists who identify as Muslim and twist its message to terrorism. | ||
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keynest
United States57 Posts
The problems is guys do the same thing now.  | ||
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-Frog-
United States514 Posts
Broad generalizations ftw. But seriously: useless. | ||
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
On November 09 2010 09:30 gLyo wrote: If you don't like them it's probably because you wish you were one. They are fucking cool and everyone wants to be cool. this in a nutshell is what I hate about hipsters. You look like retards and I don't wish that I, too, looked like a retard. This translates into "I am jealous" somehow | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
a “hipster” is a young person (between the ages of 18-25) with an enthusiasm for contemporary alternative pop culture, primarily music and fashion you mean every like every fad ever???? | ||
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Peanutsc
United States277 Posts
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
People trying to be so cool that they are not cool any more but purely annoying. And they love alternative stuff just to be alternative. And yet they all seems the same... I stick to Manhattan. And damn, I am not jealous at all. I don't feel like I need to look like and behave "alternative"... | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On November 09 2010 15:48 Lebesgue wrote: I'm mid 20s, I like alternative music, I live in NYC and I hate hipsters. Even though I live one stop from Williamsburg I never go there partying. Went only once and was enough for me. People trying to be so cool that they are not cool any more but purely annoying. And they love alternative stuff just to be alternative. And yet they all seems the same... I stick to Manhattan. And damn, I am not jealous at all. I don't feel like I need to look like and behave "alternative"... They're mostly mid-west American transplants that came to the city using Daddy's money. And yeah, they inevitably flock to the LES and Williamsburg. Spending each day wearing American Apparel and running around looking for the next supercool concert. Pretty gay. I like NYC a lot more now that I've moved to Astoria. I don't have to look at skinny dudes wearing stupid retro hats, carrying skateboards around, with dumb tattoos on their hairy forearms, and wearing sunglasses at night. | ||
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lOvOlUNiMEDiA
United States643 Posts
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Contagious
United States1319 Posts
Ages 13-15: Emo kid 16-18: Scene kid 18-25: Hipster 25+: Unemployed | ||
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Rokit5
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
On November 09 2010 18:02 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: "Uh, yeah, I'm currently writing my own magazine right now and it's all about my balls" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVmmYMwFj1I That song's dope. I think the dude's pretty much correct, but he certainly comes off like an appeaser. I think there are some compelling arguments, like attempting to debunk class arguments with the bit about thrift stores and stealing music. It's generally on point and put in a light and careless tone, which it certainly deserves. I can only imagine how funny it would be to watch a bunch of profs with stern expressions pulling out all of these ludicrously inappropriate academic arguments. There's a lot of funny bitterness in this thread too. I have to doubt it's by older people propping up their preferred youth of the past though... EDIT: I mean, all the generalizations about hipsters in this thread are like mom's basement and a gut peeking out over those sweatpants are a generalization for nerds. | ||
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Swede
New Zealand853 Posts
Im somewhat bothered by the guy saying that modern young people are more hip and connected. I dont think being able to tweet your bowel movements counts as being hip. Nothing makes me more ill than when people confuse circumstance with substance. Yeah, modern people have alot of tricks thanks to technology, but that doesnt mean they are any more aware or capable. In fact, limitations usually spawn the best results. If young people really had something figured out these days, then where is the modern Pink Floyd? Where is the modern Beatles? Are there even any great movies or music coming out? Hardly. Its very very rare that culture spawns genius these days. Youd think that a bunch of super hip happy free thinkers would have some ideas but they actually seem to have less ideas than the 60s generation did, or even the early 90s generation. People need to stop confusing capability with actual content. Yeah, modern people have the world at their fingertips, but then how come so much of whats being created is weak drivel? Is this serious? Anyone who still thinks that the youth of today aren't producing enough quality material is not bothering to look or dismissing things before experiencing them. This is nothing more than a well written version of the old 'the youth of today suck' bullshit. The fact that you haven't found the modern Pink Floyd or the modern Beatles is not evidence that they don't existence; it's evidence that you haven't found them. I certainly have, but then again, I actually bother to wade through the 'weak drivel' to find something worthy of my time. People with this attitude are always the same. The modern Pink Floyd literally can't exist: if it sounds like Pink Floyd then it's just someone who copied Pink Floyd, and if it sounds different then it's not fucking Pink Floyd! Our generation's lack of 'quality' is your lack of open-mindedness. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On November 09 2010 19:15 Swede wrote: Is this serious? Anyone who still thinks that the youth of today aren't producing enough quality material is not bothering to look or dismissing things before experiencing them. This is nothing more than a well written version of the old 'the youth of today suck' bullshit. The fact that you haven't found the modern Pink Floyd or the modern Beatles is not evidence that they don't existence; it's evidence that you haven't found them. I certainly have, but then again, I actually bother to wade through the 'weak drivel' to find something worthy of my time. People with this attitude are always the same. The modern Pink Floyd literally can't exist: if it sounds like Pink Floyd then it's just someone who copied Pink Floyd, and if it sounds different then it's not fucking Pink Floyd! Our generation's lack of 'quality' is your lack of open-mindedness. No our generation's lack of 'quality' is our lack of good LSD tbh. | ||
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
On November 09 2010 19:36 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: No our generation's lack of 'quality' is our lack of good LSD tbh. I don't know where you live, but there is one other user on this forum who I know can back me up in saying: Fuck that. We've got some mad Lucy. EDIT: This is pretty off topic I guess. Sorry bout that. What kind of man stands by when someone's bashing his girl. | ||
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Wfat
Australia108 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On November 09 2010 09:04 Peanutsc wrote: ... Hearing today’s kids called mindless consumers drives me nuts. They get their clothes at secondhand shops, and the ones they do buy have fewer logos than when I was their age. They don’t buy music. They steal it. They can create their own band out of nothing by mixing samples and genres and new instruments, and they get these songs to their fans without a record label. They’re not stealing anything from blacks. They are black. Mailer’s essay is a half-century old, and today’s incarnation of cool is more inclusive than any before it. We all know how misogynist the hippies really were. The Free Love movement was only a groovy way to take advantage of women. Punk pretended to be open to everyone, but an Afro Mohawk was about as common as a well-respected white rapper. Today’s kids couldn’t care less who’s black, gay, rich or poor. “Which brings me to my next point,” I said, “Where did this theory begin that hipsters are all rich posers?” I’ve met thousands of them over the years and have yet to meet a soul who lives off a trust fund. (I’ve met plenty of trust-fund kids, but they’re more into being fabulous in Monaco than going to see a punk band.) They have the same amount of money young people have always had: barely any. They don’t drink Pabst because they’re trying to appropriate working-class culture. They’re drinking it because it’s cheap. They drive track bikes because they don’t get stolen. They listen to iPods because it’s the most musical bang for your buck. When you look into modern youth culture and examine all the criticisms, one truth becomes impossible to ignore: Today’s kids are the best. They are savvier, better connected, more informed, less consumerist and more capable of everything—including partying—than my generation or yours. Believe me, cassette tapes were a fucking pain in the ass. ... If this is what a hipster is then why are there so many negative responses in this thread? The people described here are just normal youth who would almost certainly be playing video games such as SC2 or COD4. If you are one of those posting generalisations read Cuticle's description of a hipster (page 4), surely you'll identify with some of that if you're 18-25. | ||
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
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