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NIJ
Profile Joined March 2010
1012 Posts
September 03 2010 23:21 GMT
#41
Rules are rules. Its true. But I also like valve, so its too bad.

I hope something can be worked out.
Act of thinking logically cannot possibly be natural to the human mind. If it were, then mathematics would be everybody's easiest course at school and our species would not have taken several millennia to figure out the scientific method -NDT
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
September 03 2010 23:41 GMT
#42
Shouldn't the studios be paying for the ratings as valve just distributes them? Valve should say, "Get a Korean rating or we can't list your game there."
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
September 03 2010 23:52 GMT
#43
I predict gamer revolution.

I can see it now. Flash and Jaedong devising foolproof strategies before throwing their nerd armies at their greedy Korean overlords.
The_Pacifist
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States540 Posts
September 03 2010 23:59 GMT
#44
This is quite an impressive scam.

Force developers to pay thousands of dollars to get a rating sticker for a game. Repeat for every game that gets distributed in the country. The real impressive part is how its so blatantly devious, yet they managed to convince people that it's all just "part of the process."
BillyHere
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia13 Posts
September 04 2010 00:19 GMT
#45
Regulation under the guise of a money grab, can never have to much regulated freedom
Always forgive your enemies, nothing annoys them so much
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
September 04 2010 01:42 GMT
#46
Maybe this is how they want to cope with their gaming addiction? Put all the small time game developers out of business with ratings demand and so only the large and popular titles can be played.
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Frigo
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary1023 Posts
September 04 2010 05:47 GMT
#47
This extortion scheme is ridiculous. Users should not be blocked access to any information (or art) on the net especially not in this disgusting orwellian manner. And developers should absolutely not be subject to this kind of mafia-style extortion by the government.

I feel this is one of those cases when it is morally acceptable to simply kill those responsible.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13918 Posts
September 04 2010 05:50 GMT
#48
Hope they can work out a deal, do a one set price per year for all the games that get added or something. Else this is just going to get stupid. I know valve can afford to shell out some money to get its games approved, but if they have to pay 100k per game, no chance
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
snorlax
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States755 Posts
September 04 2010 05:58 GMT
#49
On September 04 2010 02:49 Terranist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 02:39 darmousseh wrote:
Things governments screw up.

1. Video Games
2. People's lives.
3. The economy
4. Anything they can touch.


Things governments solve
.......
......
still trying to think of one.


you forgot healthcare.


NOT IN AMURICUH
Leverpastej
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden4 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-05 13:21:41
September 05 2010 13:20 GMT
#50
*edit removed
f0rk
Profile Joined March 2010
England172 Posts
September 05 2010 13:57 GMT
#51
I thought Koreans preferred cheap knock off versions of good games anyway?
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 20:01:03
September 07 2010 19:59 GMT
#52
On September 04 2010 14:47 Frigo wrote:
This extortion scheme is ridiculous. Users should not be blocked access to any information (or art) on the net especially not in this disgusting orwellian manner. And developers should absolutely not be subject to this kind of mafia-style extortion by the government.

I feel this is one of those cases when it is morally acceptable to simply kill those responsible.


I know right. Imagine if US websites blocked access to child porn websites even if they were legal in their home country.
I mean, if it's legal somewhere else, then another country shouldn't block access to it since it's on the internet and free speech etc, even if it's non-compliant with local laws.

And imagine if Valve complied with other local laws but did so selectively.
I mean, imagine if they complied with German "requirements" to remove blood/gore (which aren't actually legal requirements) and made special German versions of their own games to sell there, as well as forcing consumers who were local to buy German copies of games without the (legally acceptable) option to buy uncensored versions.
And then didn't comply with laws in another country which required games to be submitted for ratings. That would be mad.


Yes example #1 is just ridiculous, but so is your statement. "It's the internet so local laws shouldn't apply".
#2 highlights an instance where Valve have complied with local "laws" to the point where they restrict the freedom of local purchases beyond the letter of the law by making it incredibly difficult for consumers in that country to buy what they are legally allowed to purchase. (German video game laws are difficult in many ways, but basically you must prove your age to purchase games with certain content, otherwise you get censored/restricted versions. Retailers also can't display the regular versions IIRC, but they can still stock them for purchase). Valve at least in the past had it so German consumers with German cards and German addresses could only buy these censored versions because it was the easiest way to comply with local law, rather than making uncensored games available easily to consumers.
In South Korea they seem to have just ignored the requirement to get games rated and put them up for sale.


That's not to say I think the Korean law is sensible, but that doesn't give Valve the right to simply ignore it and expect my sympathy when it becomes a problem.
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ChThoniC
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States536 Posts
September 07 2010 20:14 GMT
#53
Is Korea the least free first world country?

Military conscription and overregulation like this is crazy.
i c u
bjornkavist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1235 Posts
September 07 2010 20:20 GMT
#54
If I was in Korea I'd be okay with this if you could still play the Steam games, because the games are great and so are the deals, but Steam as a client is just horrible, eats your ram and craps out all the time.
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Bhaalgorn
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia214 Posts
September 07 2010 20:26 GMT
#55
Like anyone actually gives a damn what rating the game has when buying it.
TymerA
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands759 Posts
September 07 2010 20:59 GMT
#56
they always need more money!!! more money!!! ;{
nice.
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