• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 20:49
CET 02:49
KST 10:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
WTL Winter - The 2v2 Tour11WTL 2022 Winter - Regular Season Finale4Reynor wins HomeStory Cup XXII6HomeStory Cup XXII - Last Chance 202215Solar wins Super Tournament 29
Community News
Team Liquid signs SKillous26New Ladder Maps Announced - Used at IEM Katowice44ESL Open Week #154: Dark, HeroMarine, TIME win2[BSL16] ProLeague - RO32 Group Stage11WTL 2022 Winter - $9000 2v2 Special38
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid signs SKillous ESL Open Week #154: Dark, HeroMarine, TIME win WTL Winter - The 2v2 Tour Balance Patch 5.0.11 PTR Patch Notes New Ladder Maps Announced - Used at IEM Katowice
Tourneys
Sniper's StarCraft League Events WTL 2022 Winter - $9000 2v2 Special [Alpha Pro Series] Astrea vs Solar OSC Season 10 World Championship, Jan 5-22 2023 [WTL 2022] Winter - Week 11
Strategy
Custom Maps
TLMC17 Feedback Thread
External Content
Mutation # 350 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 349 Die Together Mutation # 348 Nuclear Family Mutation # 347 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
Pimpest Play corsair micro ASL15 Map Pool Korean team leagues other than KCM? BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ scmscx.com: StarCraft Map Archive Website
Tourneys
New Worlds Map Contest III: Classics Remastered [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 BSL16 - RO32 Group A - Saturday 18:00 CET
Strategy
2 tanks 1 macshop 2v2 Spell Combos Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) How do I optimize which minerals to mine?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread The PlayStation 5 Diablo 2 thread Destiny 2 - PC/Xbox/PS4 Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official Dota and Chess General Discussion
League of Legends
[Patch Notes] Release General Discussion [Summer Split] LoL Esports General Discussion
Heroes of the Storm
HotS: WP and Funny Moments
Hearthstone
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy Team Liquid Maria L
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector Mexico's Drug War YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The GoOdy Fan Club The Scarlett Fan Club The Solar Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [TV] HBO Game of Thrones Korean Music Discussion Anime Discussion Thread James Cameron's AVATAR series
Sports
2022 - 2023 Football Thread 2021 NFL/CFB Season NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion UFC/MMA Discussion Thread
World Cup 2022
FIFA World Cup 2022 - Knockout Stage FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 Thread
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Which Gaming Laptop Should I Buy?
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts Ask TL Staff Anything
Blogs
Someone Crashed my Plane …
micronesia
A spiritual journey th…
mewithoutDrew
The Kitty Arcade Saga
MrBitter
My Goals for 2023
DeNikSSB
State of StarCraft II
Jealous
Burning it all down - Reti…
BreAKerTV
I made an IMDB account.…
Vindicare605
TL.net vs the mafia subfor…
Alakaslam
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 979 users

Korea to possibly block Valve's Steam

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
gaggar
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada118 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 17:30:08
September 03 2010 17:19 GMT
#1
http://www.dt.co.kr/contents.html?article_no=2010090302010431749003

In the latest decision by Department of Videogame Rating Board of Korea, they have expressed possible intention to block all Valve's Steam services from Korea due to the fact they have Korean language support yet both the service and games have not been rated or approved by the department.


As it stands right now in Korea, all electronic games including indy games, flash games, and games distributed on-line must be rated by the department, paying up to hundreds and thousands of dollars fee for the rating.

The department have set a precedent in the past with 'Tribe Wars', a free on-line web browser based game which refused to be rated by the department, so the department blocked the country's internet access to the website.

An insider from the department suggests, 'complete block is on the table, but are seeking alternate options.'

The department is likely expecting Steam to send all games in for approval, taking in thousands of dollars per game just for the process.

Korean communities, especially all FPS related websites are enraged with their keyboards, typing in massive amounts of exclamation marks, but are unlikely to amount to any meaningful action.



Also the department is currently enforcing an initiative which requires free homebrew games to be rated by the board as well.

http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=30383

In this article, a homebrew game making team was undergoing a development of an RPG game made with RPG-maker (RPG Tsukuru) when they recieved a cease-or-desist e-mail from the department unless they sent in their game for rating (as well as asking for a hefty amount of fee). The team eventually closed all their websites and ceased game development as it was too much burden on their pocket, rendering Korea's video game industry pretty much dead.

O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4235 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 17:24:49
September 03 2010 17:23 GMT
#2
This is fucking greedy.

I really do not know much about the size of Valve's fanbase in Korea, but I imagine it to be somewhat big since Valve always makes great games. I don't think this is gonna go too well.
Fan of the Jangbanger
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
September 03 2010 17:25 GMT
#3
I'm not entirely sure what the DVRB's policy consists of. Why is the rating necessary? Are the fees just another way of accruing money for the government? And wouldn't the money spent to get the ratings be counteracted by the influx of Korean consumers? If that's the case, why is this even a matter of discussion?

I apologize for being a newb, but I'm pretty much at a loss here.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
PaRaBoWL
Profile Joined August 2010
United States74 Posts
September 03 2010 17:25 GMT
#4
Isnt it always greed lool
"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
[-]Ocelot[-]
Profile Joined February 2006
United States256 Posts
September 03 2010 17:28 GMT
#5
Bitches be going hog wild and pig crazy over some cash. That's an absurd request from this rating board. Sucks ass to be a half-life or team fortress fan in Korea.

I'd be raging too.
Who Dares Wins
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
September 03 2010 17:33 GMT
#6
why so much whining? rules are rules. follow 'em. you too, valve.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
September 03 2010 17:34 GMT
#7
isnt this the same as all video games and movies needs to be rated here in US/Canada/EU?
...from the land of imba
dvide
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom287 Posts
September 03 2010 17:34 GMT
#8
Yay I love it when the government protects us. Just imagine the chaos that would ensue in Korea if they allowed Valve's steam.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 17:36:48
September 03 2010 17:35 GMT
#9
Wait, they'll ban FREE games for not paying to get rated? I guess Valve will just have to disable all the free games for Korea and possibly increase prices on other games to cover the ratings fee.

They have a lot of games on Steam, paying thousands per game will be annoying, maybe they'll pass the costs to the publisher/developer.
dvide
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom287 Posts
September 03 2010 17:37 GMT
#10
On September 04 2010 02:35 Zzoram wrote:
Wait, they'll ban FREE games for not paying to get rated?

It's called extortion. Free or not, it's an extortion racket.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 17:40:50
September 03 2010 17:39 GMT
#11
Things governments screw up.

1. Video Games
2. People's lives.
3. The economy
4. Anything they can touch.


Things governments solve
.......
......
still trying to think of one.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
shoutout
Profile Joined June 2010
United States105 Posts
September 03 2010 17:46 GMT
#12
On September 04 2010 02:39 darmousseh wrote:
Things governments screw up.

1. Video Games
2. People's lives.
3. The economy
4. Anything they can touch.


Things governments solve
.......
......
still trying to think of one.


how bout anarchy?

Doesn't take me long to think of a benefit. dont get me wrong the government definitely causes as many issues as it solves
plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1674 Posts
September 03 2010 17:49 GMT
#13
This rating board wouldn't by any chance be run by the same dudes that run KeSPA?

It really seems like the computer gaming industry is being milked for all it's worth these days. I guess the non-gaming business community finally realised its popular appeal, and thus market potential. Shame.
Savior broke my heart ;_; || twitch.tv/onnings
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
September 03 2010 17:49 GMT
#14
On September 04 2010 02:39 darmousseh wrote:
Things governments screw up.

1. Video Games
2. People's lives.
3. The economy
4. Anything they can touch.


Things governments solve
.......
......
still trying to think of one.


you forgot healthcare.
The Show of a Lifetime
ithree
Profile Joined January 2010
443 Posts
September 03 2010 17:53 GMT
#15
Crying shame if this goes through.

But to play Devils advocate, don't you think that country's have a right not to be pushed around by foreign enterprise ?

Proper Language support is a fairly basic after all, especially if people are trying to get sub par translations through.

What they have is an overzealous rule on gaming classification and Steam is circumventing the law. These are generally not small games and they are generally not free, if there are fees to be paid, either pay them or GTFO.

(again Devils advocate, please don't hurt me !)
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
September 03 2010 17:54 GMT
#16
Damn it, why does government have to have control video games like this. Australia already rapes gamers in the ass and now South Korea wants to prevent a great company like Valve from coming in? Woohoo, promote more shitty games like Sudden Attack and the numerous other Valve knockoffs in Korea.
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
September 03 2010 17:57 GMT
#17
On September 04 2010 02:39 darmousseh wrote:
Things governments screw up.

1. Video Games
2. People's lives.
3. The economy
4. Anything they can touch.


Things governments solve
.......
......
still trying to think of one.


Go move to an island somewhere if it bothers you that much.
Too Busy to Troll!
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
September 03 2010 17:58 GMT
#18
umm i thought even with the draconian censorship of australia that companies dont pay to get their stuff rated by the classification board.
pikey26
Profile Joined September 2010
United States23 Posts
September 03 2010 17:59 GMT
#19
It has nothing to do with the general rule of governments fucking shit up anywhere you go.

Korea has had a long-standing problem corruption and greed in all branches of their governments. Throw in the fact that this regulation committee is probably more private than public would amplify the issue.

<= Korean, spent 7 years of childhood there.
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
September 03 2010 17:59 GMT
#20
Korean regulators must have said to themselves "this Valve company have not treated us to kalbi and soju!!"
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
00:00
FSL s6 day 24
Freeedom10
Liquipedia
The PiG Daily
22:10
Best Games of SC
ByuN vs SolarLIVE!
Serral vs TBD
herO vs ByuN
Reynor vs Cure
PiGStarcraft1005
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft1005
Nathanias 253
ViBE152
Forgg! 146
JuggernautJason 128
Ketroc 61
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 8115
Soulkey 578
Iris 280
Shinee 278
Aegong 148
Dewaltoss 38
ggaemo 1
Dota 2
Grubby6126
EternaLEnVy1317
NeuroSwarm48
League of Legends
JimRising 877
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang01371
hungrybox1223
Other Games
summit1g32329
fl0m1598
Fnx 1457
Trikslyr91
Organizations
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
ESL CS:GO529
Dota 2
BeyondTheSummit215
StarCraft 2
Esl_sc2195
ESL.tv195
Other Games
BasetradeTV160
StarCraft: Brood War
StarcraftVOD6
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 24 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• GM_Ukko 74
• musti20045 31
• Hupsaiya 4
• nightgamer69 2
• intothetv
• Kozan
• Gussbus
• Laughngamez YouTube
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
• LaughNgamez Trovo
• aXEnki
• Alpha X_
• Poblha
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 32
• sscaitournament2
• STPLYoutube
• BSLYoutube
• AfreecaTV YouTube
League of Legends
• Doublelift7777
• Lourlo416
Other Games
• imaqtpie1891
• Shiphtur1175
• WagamamaTV434
Upcoming Events
World Team League
10h 11m
OSC
11h 11m
BSL: ProLeague
15h 11m
QiaoGege vs LCYDH
NbA vs DragOn
Online Event
1d
ESL Pro Tour
1d 1h
World Team League
1d 10h
OSC
1d 15h
BSL: ProLeague
1d 15h
Dewalt vs Ptak
Duguqiubai vs UltrA
New Worlds Map Contest:…
1d 16h
ESL Pro Tour
2 days
[ Show More ]
ESL Pro Tour
2 days
OSC
5 days
OSC
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Ultimate Battle: Soulkey vs RoyaL
HSC XXII
NGS Storm Division S6 Qual. 3
ESL Challenger League S43 EU

Ongoing

BSL Season 16
FS Mania
RISS Season 1
Strength Challenge 30K
KCM Race Survival 2022 Season 4
KCM Ladies Race Survival 2022 Season 4
CasterMuse Narak StarLeague Season 5
CSL 8 Winter Cup
Phoenix Cup
WTL 2022 Winter
OSC Championship Season 10
WTL 2022 Winter 2v2 Tour
NGS Storm Division S6 Quals

Upcoming

2023 ACS Season 1
Hongtu Solo League S5: KOR
2023 ACS Season 1: Qualifier
CHN vs KOR Week27
IEM Katowice 2023
NGS Storm Division S6
NGS Storm Division S6 Qual. 5
NGS Storm Division S6 Qual. 4
BLAST.tv Paris Major 2023
ESL Challenger Melbourne 2023
ESL Pro League Season 17
CCT Central Europe Finals #1
IEM Katowice 2023
BLAST Premier Spring Groups
ESL Challenger League S44 EU
ESL Challenger League S44 NA
ESL Challenger League S44 AP
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2023 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.