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Eniram
Sudan3166 Posts
On June 05 2004 19:07 x[ReaPeR]x wrote: ... Well the economy was really good under Reagan so I'm not seeing the problem really... Eh... No. Although under reagan unemployment rates and inflation went down, the deficit and debt went up. | ||
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TeCh)PsylO
United States3552 Posts
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Liquid`RaSZi
Netherlands2766 Posts
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Canada6140 Posts
On June 06 2004 05:05 Countdown wrote: what a direct flame. now i am going to make a 8 paragraph post in website feedback to have you banned. brb while i add your name to my sig um. im not flaming u. if u say yourself you cant read something, then SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT WHAT YOU CANT READ BECAUSE NO ONE NEEDS TO READ YOUR REMARKS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN'T READ TO BEGIN WITH. k? | ||
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naventus
United States1339 Posts
Go Rummy and the conservative gang! | ||
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Maynard
United States889 Posts
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Countdown
1217 Posts
On June 06 2004 08:55 STIMEY d okgm fish wrote: um. im not flaming u. if u say yourself you cant read something, then SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT WHAT YOU CANT READ BECAUSE NO ONE NEEDS TO READ YOUR REMARKS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN'T READ TO BEGIN WITH. k? I wasn't commenting to your post. I was letting you know that I couldn't read what you wrote. Durr... | ||
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Eniram
Sudan3166 Posts
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TeCh)PsylO
United States3552 Posts
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Eniram
Sudan3166 Posts
On June 06 2004 10:48 TeCh)PsylO wrote: I find it ironic that the same people that defend Bush for taking out the horrible demonic saddam, are the same people that want to support Reagons presidency. Honorable life? Having blood on your hands is not honorable. He only did what he thought would keep the bloodshed and communism to a minimum | ||
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TeCh)PsylO
United States3552 Posts
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Meat
Netherlands3751 Posts
For me he was dead 10 years already and the only persons who can feel truly sad about his dead are the people close to him imo. | ||
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GroT
Belgium3003 Posts
On June 05 2004 16:27 Liquid`Drone wrote: life goes on but not for him lololol =( haha really made me laugh | ||
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Eniram
Sudan3166 Posts
On June 06 2004 10:54 TeCh)PsylO wrote: Explain the blood shed of communism. Then explain how the bloodshed of "democracy" is any better. I said bloodhsed and communism. Two different things. Anyways, I never said one was better than the other. | ||
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TeCh)PsylO
United States3552 Posts
said bloodhsed and communism. Two different things. Anyways, I never said one was better than the other. I misunderstood, but am now more at odds with what you said. Reagon caused bloodshed: Contras and Saddam for example. I also don't think that communism alone is a reason to go to war, and I have yet hear anyone make a reasonable argument otherwise. If one is not better than the other, than why support one? Support niether. | ||
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Eniram
Sudan3166 Posts
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JaeIsGod
Netherlands199 Posts
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XG3
United States544 Posts
Who gives a damned shit when a 93 year old dies? He was old and pretty useless for the last xx years, so why the big fuss? When any 93 year old dies, everyone should give a shit regardless of who it is. How many 93 year olds were useful for the last xx years? His legacy is there and because he was one of the most charismatic and loved presidents of the USA ever. When a nation's favorite leader dies, it's sad and that's why there is reason for mourning. Nobody expects someone dutch to mourn his death, of course...it's a national thing. Read this from Fox News: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,121883,00.html Ronald Wilson Reagan (search), the 40th president of the United States, died today at his home in California. He was 93 years old and had been suffering from Alzheimer's disease. Reagan, known as "The Great Communicator," was elected to office in a landslide victory over incumbent Democrat Jimmy Carter in 1980 and is credited with revitalizing the country's stagnant economy and forcing the end of the Cold War (search) during his two terms in office from 1981 to 1989. His charismatic personality and staunch conservatism led the nation in a Republican resurgence that kept the GOP in the White House for 12 years. Reagan remained largely out of public view since announcing he had Alzheimer's disease (search) in November 1994. He came to symbolize Alzheimer's, which has no cure, during the last decade of his life. Reagan turned the disclosure of his disease as an opportunity to make a final address to the nation, expressing in an open letter to the American people the same patriotic fervor that had catapulted him into the presidency. "When the Lord calls me home, whenever that may be, I will leave with the greatest love for this country of ours and eternal optimism for its future," Reagan wrote at the time. "I know that for America there will always be a bright dawn ahead." The Reagan Revolution Ascending to the presidency on a pledge to restore "the great, confident roar of American progress and growth and optimism," Reagan -- a former actor and two-term California governor -- remade the Republican Party in his own image of fiscal and social conservatism. Reagan brought a grandfatherly warmth to Republican issues and values that attracted supporters across a broad political spectrum. He successfully implemented most of his campaign promises: reducing government bureaucracy and regulation, cutting taxes in favor of "trickle-down, or supply-side economics -- which became known as Reaganomics (search) -- and building a strong defense while fighting the spread of communism. These moves won him wide appeal and an even wider margin of victory in 1984, when he won the electoral votes of 49 states. The role of president would prove to be more dramatic than any screen role Reagan had assumed in his pre-politics career in Hollywood. Just 69 days into his first term, Reagan was shot in Washington by John Hinckley, Jr. (search), but his quick and full recovery from the assassination attempt elevated him to new levels of national popularity. His health was a recurring theme of his presidency as Reagan underwent major surgeries in 1981, 1985 and 1987. Reagan was hawkish in foreign policy, staunchly committed to thwarting the spread of communism. His administration gave strong financial and military support to the Contra Rebels who were fighting Nicaragua's communist government and supported the government of El Salvador's fight against communist guerillas and rebels resisting the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. He dispatched U.S. troops to the island of Grenada when it was perceived as succumbing to Cuba in 1983. Reagan's war on communism led to an escalation of Cold War rhetoric and defense spending that mushroomed the national debt and brought harsh criticism upon his administration. But the efforts eventually resulted in a series of high-level summit meetings with Soviet Prime Minister Mikhail Gorbachev, arms reduction pacts with the Soviets and eventually the break-up of the Soviet Union. That success was dramatically symbolized by the tearing down of the Berlin Wall. His fight against communism also led to the darkest moment of his presidency, when he confessed in November 1986 that the United States had secretly sold arms to Iran as part of an arms-for-hostages deal, and then used the proceeds from the sale to fund aid to the Contra rebels. The scandal resulted in the indictment of high-level government officials. Reagan waged war not only on communism, but on terrorism, most visibly in 1986 when he sent jets to bomb Libya in retaliation for the death of Americans in a Berlin dance club. Star Power Born Feb. 6, 1911, in Tampico, Ill., Reagan graduated from Eureka College in 1932 and worked as a radio sportscaster in the Midwest before being discovered by a Hollywood agent and being signed by Warner Bros. He made his acting debut in "Love Is in the Air" in 1937, made Air Force training films during World War II, and went on to make 52 movies. Reagan also served as a spokesman for the General Electric Company, hosted and acted on the General Electric Theater television series, and was also host of the television series, "Death Valley Days." Reagan and his first wife, actress Jane Wyman, had two children, Maureen and Michael, before divorcing in 1948. He married actress Nancy Davis in 1952 and had two more children, Patricia and Ronald Prescott, who goes by Ron. Maureen Reagan died of cancer in 2001. Reagan moved from acting into politics as a five-time president of the Screen Actors Guild. Originally a Democrat, Reagan's ideology shifted to the right as he sided with the government attack on the influence of communism in the entertainment world. But it was a well-received televised speech on behalf of Republican presidential candidate Barry Goldwater in 1964 that catapulted Reagan's political career from the sound stage to the world stage. Reagan was elected California governor in 1966 and again in 1970. He made two failed attempts at the White House in 1968 and 1976 before his 1980 victory. Known for his personal charm and talent -- and for making masterful speeches to win support for his policies -- many of the foreign leaders with whom he met were said to have been more impressed with his star quality than his intellect. "You could see it in the faces of the foreign leaders -- Mitterand, Thatcher, even Gorbachev," a U.S. official who accompanied Reagan on many trips abroad was quoted as saying by Lou Cannon in his biography, "President Reagan: The Role of a Lifetime." "They didn't pay much attention to what he was saying. Either they had heard it before, or they realized it was just talking points. But Reagan the man, the politician, fascinated them. It was almost as if they were saying, what does this man have that works so well for him? It was like they wanted to bottle it and take it home and use it themselves." The question of whether the commander in chief had a harder-edged side behind closed doors was the subject of some speculation and even humor. In a "Saturday Night Live" skit in the late 1980s, the late comic Phil Hartman portrayed a Reagan who was gentle and grandfatherly to Oval Office visitors but, behind closed doors, transformed into a sharp-minded scowling dictator who barked orders to his advisers. While he wasn't always cooperative with reporters, avoiding unwanted questions by feigning deafness as he approached a waiting helicopter, he maintained a genial relationship with the White House press corps, whose members nicknamed him the Gipper in reference to the character he portrayed in the film, "Knute Rockne, All American." Reagan's approval rating remained high through his eight years in office, and Democrats struggled for years against the image of old-fashioned values, patriotism and hard work that Reagan fashioned for himself and his party. As a tribute to Reagan's legacy, Congress and President Bill Clinton officially changed the name of Washington National Airport to Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport in February 1998. And in 2003, former First Lady Nancy Reagan was on hand to christen the USS Ronald Reagan, the Navy's newest nuclear powered aircraft carrier. But perhaps the image of Reagan that will be remembered most was his ability to unite the nation under the strength of his convictions, such as when he spoke to all Americans, and specifically schoolchildren, in the wake of the 1986 explosion of the space shuttle Challenger: "It's all part of taking a chance and expanding man's horizons," he said. "The future doesn't belong to the fainthearted; it belongs to the brave. The Challenger crew was pulling us into the future, and we'll continue to follow them." Reagan is survived by his wife and three children. | ||
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naventus
United States1339 Posts
And btw... excal and his coulter fans have yet to respond to soooo many good posts. | ||
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naventus
United States1339 Posts
On June 06 2004 10:51 Eniram wrote: He only did what he thought would keep the bloodshed and communism to a minimum What's your point? Anyone could do what they "thought" was right. Whether it's right or not is a different story. | ||
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