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Sweden33723 Posts
I think war 3 is a cool game in a way.. And when I read about it, and read what people say about it - I really feel as if it should be fun. Then I go and play a 2:2 with wax or something, everything is going fine - some games can be really fun when you just constantly micro basic units etc.. Can be quite intense.
Then as the game goes on something happens..
The screen is filled with hundreds of glowing lights, huge, heavily animated flying units and auras.. That's when the game fails in my opinion.. Maybe it's just me playing on asia and thus having a huge lag but.. In my experience it's almost impossible to micro in those situations - same held true when I played it at a PC cafe with a friend - we played on europe server too.
I don't know.. There is something which I can't really put my finger on.
Another major gripe for me is the lack of units akin to the vulture, mutalisk and speed shuttle as well as dropship.. I once played an absolutely AWESOME island 2:2 with a friend. I would do a goblin zeppelin rush and that was so much fun! We fought and fought and fought, constantly catapult harassing, goblin zeppelin popping units, expanding etcetc.. In the end we lost the final battle over the last gold mine, a really cool game in my opinion!
Islands in war 3, or TFT I should say.. Now that is fun! I haven't played a whole lot of them but the few games I had were very fun!
Maybe it was just bad opponents but the games were cool, much more similiar to BW.
Back to the issue of spells, my computer is in no way bad - 1.8ghz, 500 MB ram, not the best graphic card (I'm gonna put in a better one and see if it will speed things up).. But still, spells and such slows the game down soo much, suddenly I'll find myself without a single unit since during the latest colour explosion I couldn't move my units out of the 23092039 area of effect spells. Maybe due to being under the effect of slow, maybe because I suck but whatever.. I don't like all the flashy spells! I think spells are cool but not like that. Also.. Spell casters not being able to attack = would be cooler I think. Now I don't know how a top level game really looks like, the ones I have seen had kinda well rounded armies yeah.. But I dunno, it would be cooler I think.
Rant over :D
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FA babo 
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On May 08 2004 14:41 jacen wrote: Show nested quote +On May 07 2004 01:14 SpuniasauR wrote:
by the way maybe a pg player can tell me this, are the [pG] players in warcraft (aether, hunter, etched) old starcraft players? or is it even the same clan? i been wondering this for a while but i cant be sure if its just noobs taking the l337 tag [pG] hahaha [pG] has a full squad of war3 players. most of them played bw b4, but not very successful. but [pG]Fisheye (wcg2003 2nd in bw) switched to war3(hes playing night elves) to compete at the Giga-Liga (http://liga.giga.de/). its a leage formed by a german tv channel (www.giga.de) where he won the last years broodwar tourney. but this year the removed broodwar from the top games (which feature cash prices) and now he can only win money by playing war3. his last time on tv was wednesday, where he played a live game vs ocrana.d-link.take (human) which he won. the finals of the league are on the 22nd of may. so we will see if he can make the jump from bw to war3 in 6 months (last giga.liga was in autumn)
eTched didn't really play starcraft (or probably not that well)
Aether played, I heard he was good (he's knowledgeable about the pro gaming scene at least)
ShoCK played, he took 4th or so at Redondo WCG Qualifier last year, he was [n]ShoCK i think.
CareLess played, he told me he was around 1300-1500 gamei (i forget) i think
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Showtime is perhaps one of the most overrated War3 players. The guy has a 4-15 or similarly shitty record on MBC Game and isn't really much better on OGN, but because of his high ladder rank and good online performance people still tout him as one of the best. To be fair he was very good at ROC, but his transition to TFT hasn't worked for him at all.
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yeah... poor showtime, he really dominated in the ROC beta, early ROC retail... dominated the ladder only though =[ i don't think he's accomplished anything in any leagues.. has he?
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On June 01 2004 19:37 SoleSteeler wrote:
yeah... poor showtime, he really dominated in the ROC beta, early ROC retail... dominated the ladder only though =[ i don't think he's accomplished anything in any leagues.. has he?
go check the ladder again he smurfs uder diff accts and ShowTime(NE) isconsidered the best player by far (since UD is considered to be overpowered)
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Showtime won the third OGN War3 league which also happened to be the last ROC OGN league. He placed third in the first OGN WC3 league and I think he made top 4 for the second one too. Maybe I'm being hard on him and he might just be slumping but he really hasn't been playing up to his former level in TFT.
Check[Frienz] is a MUCH stronger candidate for best NE player right now. The guy has won two OGN leagues in a row, has made numerous all-kills in the team leagues, and if he's not winning a tourney he is almost always placing near the top.
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On June 01 2004 19:58 Make7UpYours wrote:
Showtime won the third OGN War3 league which also happened to be the last ROC OGN league. He placed third in the first OGN WC3 league and I think he made top 4 for the second one too. Maybe I'm being hard on him and he might just be slumping but he really hasn't been playing up to his former level in TFT.
Check[Frienz] is a MUCH stronger candidate for best NE player right now. The guy has won two OGN leagues in a row, has made numerous all-kills in the team leagues, and if he's not winning a tourney he is almost always placing near the top.
wow this kinda detailed infomation shows ur dedication to the game wc3 its enough get ur ass banned from the ANTI-WC forum lol 
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are OGN and MBC War3 leagues still going on? I remember Waxy saying that there were no future plans for an OGN War3 league, that was around 2 months ago or so
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On June 01 2004 11:31 FrozenArbiter wrote:
I think war 3 is a cool game in a way.. And when I read about it, and read what people say about it - I really feel as if it should be fun. Then I go and play a 2:2 with wax or something, everything is going fine - some games can be really fun when you just constantly micro basic units etc.. Can be quite intense.
Then as the game goes on something happens..
The screen is filled with hundreds of glowing lights, huge, heavily animated flying units and auras.. That's when the game fails in my opinion.. Maybe it's just me playing on asia and thus having a huge lag but.. In my experience it's almost impossible to micro in those situations - same held true when I played it at a PC cafe with a friend - we played on europe server too.
I don't know.. There is something which I can't really put my finger on.
Another major gripe for me is the lack of units akin to the vulture, mutalisk and speed shuttle as well as dropship.. I once played an absolutely AWESOME island 2:2 with a friend. I would do a goblin zeppelin rush and that was so much fun! We fought and fought and fought, constantly catapult harassing, goblin zeppelin popping units, expanding etcetc.. In the end we lost the final battle over the last gold mine, a really cool game in my opinion!
Islands in war 3, or TFT I should say.. Now that is fun! I haven't played a whole lot of them but the few games I had were very fun!
Maybe it was just bad opponents but the games were cool, much more similiar to BW.
Back to the issue of spells, my computer is in no way bad - 1.8ghz, 500 MB ram, not the best graphic card (I'm gonna put in a better one and see if it will speed things up).. But still, spells and such slows the game down soo much, suddenly I'll find myself without a single unit since during the latest colour explosion I couldn't move my units out of the 23092039 area of effect spells. Maybe due to being under the effect of slow, maybe because I suck but whatever.. I don't like all the flashy spells! I think spells are cool but not like that. Also.. Spell casters not being able to attack = would be cooler I think. Now I don't know how a top level game really looks like, the ones I have seen had kinda well rounded armies yeah.. But I dunno, it would be cooler I think.
Rant over :D
EXACTLY as better technology they use the better comp its required , those animated big flying units s really gay they block all the land units n fuck it all up (eg u cant click on them but so u can onlly "A" them)
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Oh and what happened to sc and cs replays.net 
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On June 01 2004 19:58 Make7UpYours wrote:
Showtime won the third OGN War3 league which also happened to be the last ROC OGN league. He placed third in the first OGN WC3 league and I think he made top 4 for the second one too. Maybe I'm being hard on him and he might just be slumping but he really hasn't been playing up to his former level in TFT.
Check[Frienz] is a MUCH stronger candidate for best NE player right now. The guy has won two OGN leagues in a row, has made numerous all-kills in the team leagues, and if he's not winning a tourney he is almost always placing near the top.
oh ><
didn't realize showtime had done much besides dominate bnet ladders... neat
isn't Spirit_Moon one the top NE players now? if not the top?
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Insomnia,Heman,Madfrog and all former SC gosu wannnabes ,who now own at WC3, are the living proofs that WC3 requires less skill than SC
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On June 02 2004 09:21 mdb wrote:
Insomnia,Heman,Madfrog and all former SC gosu wannnabes ,who now own at WC3, are the living proofs that WC3 requires less skill than SC
When you think of SC like War3 you're exactly right. But that's like thinking of baseball like soccer. Two totally different games.
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Me and FrozenArbiter gosu 2vs2 WC3 LOL -_-;;;
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On June 02 2004 09:21 mdb wrote:
Insomnia,Heman,Madfrog and all former SC gosu wannnabes ,who now own at WC3, are the living proofs that WC3 requires less skill than SC
well, Insomnia/Madfrog were actually some of the best players (in Europe i'd say? no?) in their time.. just because someone stops playing the game and moves on doesn't really make them 'gosu wannabes'?
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On June 02 2004 09:41 SoleSteeler wrote: Show nested quote +On June 02 2004 09:21 mdb wrote:
Insomnia,Heman,Madfrog and all former SC gosu wannnabes ,who now own at WC3, are the living proofs that WC3 requires less skill than SC well, Insomnia/Madfrog were actually some of the best players (in Europe i'd say? no?) in their time.. just because someone stops playing the game and moves on doesn't really make them 'gosu wannabes'?
Yeah maybe i used the wrong words,but you know what i mean.
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