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kiendudu
Profile Joined May 2008
Netherlands273 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 14:26:29
July 14 2010 14:14 GMT
#241
nvm
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 14 2010 14:15 GMT
#242
On July 14 2010 22:07 kiendudu wrote:
Mac is only for apple fan. It is weaker than PC with win 7 OS in every aspects

if you are not a big fan, why choose Mac ?



Because Mac's OS has been out on the market about 5 times longer than Win 7.

I also like Mac's seemless switching between language environments. I wonder if I can get linux to do that.
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mofoo
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden96 Posts
July 14 2010 14:39 GMT
#243
On July 14 2010 21:15 Piy wrote:
Mac's are for people who have more money than knowledge about computers. That's not a terribly judgmental thing to say, it's just something to bear in mind.


lol..

Perhaps I'm going OT now.. Sorry for that..

From my 15 year computer programmer (notice 2x'm') experience, I've noticed that Macs "always work". At least more so than PC counterparts. With Mac, most things work out of the box. Therefore I would suggest Mac for anyone, new or experienced if you want to keep it simple.

Also, If you want, you can get a command shell and work the Mac as it would be a Linux box as Mac OS X is built upon FreeBSD, a unix-like OS.

But it you only need a computer for gaming, I'd go PC. Atleas this year..
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 14:52:02
July 14 2010 14:47 GMT
#244
On July 14 2010 23:39 mofoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2010 21:15 Piy wrote:
Mac's are for people who have more money than knowledge about computers. That's not a terribly judgmental thing to say, it's just something to bear in mind.


lol..

Perhaps I'm going OT now.. Sorry for that..

From my 15 year computer programmer (notice 2x'm') experience, I've noticed that Macs "always work". At least more so than PC counterparts. With Mac, most things work out of the box. Therefore I would suggest Mac for anyone, new or experienced if you want to keep it simple.

Also, If you want, you can get a command shell and work the Mac as it would be a Linux box as Mac OS X is built upon FreeBSD, a unix-like OS.

But it you only need a computer for gaming, I'd go PC. Atleas this year..


Macs are good for developers and people who do photo/music/video editing (or so I heard).

For people who just want to browse the Internet and do word processing, I fail to understand how mac is better. There's no such thing as "it just works" with such trivial tasks, it's just as effortless to do them on Windows (Yes, I've used both Macs and Windows extensively in the past, and MS Office on Windows >> MS Office on Mac). The problem with Windows is that people get overzealous with the plethora of applications and fuck themselves over...

edit:

p.s. ThinkPads are great non-mac laptops: very durable and similar specs would only cost about 2/3 of the price. Naturally, you have the freedom to upgrade your hardware and switch to Linux should you want to.
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Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 15:01:38
July 14 2010 15:00 GMT
#245
I'm no ignorant about computers and must say, the MacBook Pro 13.3'' is the best purchase I ever made. Sturdy aluminum build, huge trackpad and battery life, and OS X is a breeze to use. Costs about US$2k here and laughs at a US$4k Vaio.

iMacs are a waste though, unless you're all for the good looks.
LetMeShine
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
979 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 15:19:24
July 14 2010 15:04 GMT
#246
On July 14 2010 23:47 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2010 23:39 mofoo wrote:
On July 14 2010 21:15 Piy wrote:
Mac's are for people who have more money than knowledge about computers. That's not a terribly judgmental thing to say, it's just something to bear in mind.


lol..

Perhaps I'm going OT now.. Sorry for that..

From my 15 year computer programmer (notice 2x'm') experience, I've noticed that Macs "always work". At least more so than PC counterparts. With Mac, most things work out of the box. Therefore I would suggest Mac for anyone, new or experienced if you want to keep it simple.

Also, If you want, you can get a command shell and work the Mac as it would be a Linux box as Mac OS X is built upon FreeBSD, a unix-like OS.

But it you only need a computer for gaming, I'd go PC. Atleas this year..


Macs are good for developers and people who do photo/music/video editing (or so I heard).


Not sure about music or software development since I don't dabble in that field but what I have always seen with photo/video editing is a bit of an old reactionary boys club and a bit of an image thing.

Avid can pretty much achieve the same as Final Cut Pro but when you've spent a large amount of time using Apple products, you basically just keep on using them out of convenience.

On July 14 2010 23:39 mofoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2010 21:15 Piy wrote:
Mac's are for people who have more money than knowledge about computers. That's not a terribly judgmental thing to say, it's just something to bear in mind.


lol..

Perhaps I'm going OT now.. Sorry for that..

From my 15 year computer programmer (notice 2x'm') experience, I've noticed that Macs "always work". At least more so than PC counterparts. With Mac, most things work out of the box. Therefore I would suggest Mac for anyone, new or experienced if you want to keep it simple.

Also, If you want, you can get a command shell and work the Mac as it would be a Linux box as Mac OS X is built upon FreeBSD, a unix-like OS.

But it you only need a computer for gaming, I'd go PC. Atleas this year..


I think the Macbook Pro is the best laptop out right now since they get literally everything right and you can just buy a second hand one if money is an issue but if you can't get a cheap computer with Windows 7 working properly, you don't deserve to touch a computer - you are literally that dumb. If we're talking about XP, XP is nearly 10 years old so...

The only issue is when you play around with high end parts...that's when shit can go wrong. But hardware these days is so easy to use with so many safeguards (CPU voltage too high = no POST etc) that frying a motherboard or CPU basically requires you to purposely attempt to do it. This however is a hardware problem and since Macs are, well, PCs they suffer from hardware defects as well so...

Macs will never match the PC for gaming until all developers shift from PC to Mac. The thing holding Macs in the gaming department are the drivers and sine you're a developer with 15 years experience, you should know how hard it is to develop good drivers and how expensive it is.
futoM4ki
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany73 Posts
July 14 2010 15:05 GMT
#247
On July 14 2010 22:25 Craton wrote:
Or it could be that Macs come with better tools for editing graphics/video and have that as pretty much their only worthwhile purpose?

If you're going to hate on Macs, at least do it right.


I don´t hate Macs, I hate Mac users. Especially that kind of users, who pin that Apple decal on the back of there cars to tell the whole world how ahead and elite they are. Those who keep telling me how much better the battery in MacBooks are. Does Apple produce there own lithium-ion batterys? Of course they don´t.
I´am just so sick of people parrotting nonsense arguments and 80% of all Mac users seem to do so -____-

On July 14 2010 23:00 sushi.oi.zz wrote:
if your're not a huge gamer, i think personally the operating system for mac is >>>>>>>>>>>>> pc.


Why? Why do you think MacOS is a better OS then every Windows or Linux distribution on the market? Have you ever used any Linux distribution? Can even tell the difference between Linux and Unix without google/wikipedia?
I rly don´t want to offend you, but what makes you qualified to tell that "the operating system for mac is >>>>>>>>>>>>> pc"?
Why should I run my webserver on MacOS? Why should I develop my website/photoshop-plugin/software on MacOS? Why should I render my 3d Animations on a Mac and not on a much more powerfull PC?
There are dozens of non-gaming-related applications, where the PC is equal or even much better.
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sikyon
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1045 Posts
July 14 2010 15:15 GMT
#248
I perfer PC's because I get more hardware bang for my buck on my laptop. I have a MSI laptop and it was far better than any mac at the same price and somewhat better than other PC's at the same price.

This thing is like the antimac. It is not stylish (it just looks like... a laptop, not even different like a thinkpad), the ergonomics are poorly designed (you can't type without hitting the touchpad, the keyboard flexes alot and feels fragile at first) and the speakers are god awful.

Luckily for me it has processing power including on demand immediate overclock, I have a deathadder mouse and a headset and I've gotten used to the keyboard.

As for the windows vs mac OS, I've never had a problem using windows vista. It crashed on me once but I was playing starcraft, so I will chalk that up to beta issues. I just rebooted and it was fine. It seems easy and intuitive to me, but I'm not a tech slouch (though I'm not as up to date as I was in my youth).

I will admit that Mac's and apple products in general are DAMN SEXY. However, what I don't need right now is sex appeal and what I need right now is performance on a limited budget, being a student. I won't lie - you are paying a premium for the Mac brand but that's not a fundamentally bad thing. I don't need it, but I'm mature enough to recognize that perception has value.
Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2923 Posts
July 14 2010 15:34 GMT
#249
On June 07 2010 12:04 Mykill wrote:
UPDATE:
I've already purchased a Samsung R480. It was $600 comes with Blu-Ray and Core i3. 4GB RAM. it runs well and so far i've been very happy with it. Could a mod please lock/close this? or it can just turn it into a buying a laptop discussion thread. Thank you for all the replies!!!


Good machine, I bought the R580 for my gf 2 months back or so.

Graphics card isn't too bad, not too great either but it runs SC2 np I think there's different versions out there with diff gfx cards though. I find it to be a nice laptop with a nice design. The only thing I don't really like too much is the keyboard layout but if you use it more often I'm sure you'll get used to it
It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
July 14 2010 18:24 GMT
#250
the arrow keys are annoying and the shift key is a little off. i like how the enter key is still horizontal and long. the functions for volume pause/play are a little lacking but other then that i find it to be very good
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Grond
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
599 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 19:57:10
July 14 2010 19:47 GMT
#251
On July 14 2010 19:53 Fenris wrote:
I have recently been asked the same question as the OP, because my sister is going to uni after the summer and she plans on buying a laptop. I was recommending her to buy a PC, because it's simply a better deal for the same price, as well as no need to adapt to a new interface (we've been using PC since our first desktop).

However the major question is that she is going to the arts uni in London to study fashion jewellry and she is worried that she might need mac. However is a mac really essential for anyone except graphic designers, musicians composing music and photoshop specialists? I have never had experience with real mac users (by real I mean those who could NOT do their job without a mac), as all mac users I know are apple fans, just because it's apple...

Can anyone enlighten me on this subject? Any TL members in arts unies?


That is a question she needs to ask the University. The software she may be required to use may run on Macs only or it could run on PC's only. I would definitely find out beforehand.
Grond
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
599 Posts
July 14 2010 19:51 GMT
#252
On July 14 2010 23:47 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2010 23:39 mofoo wrote:
On July 14 2010 21:15 Piy wrote:
Mac's are for people who have more money than knowledge about computers. That's not a terribly judgmental thing to say, it's just something to bear in mind.


lol..

Perhaps I'm going OT now.. Sorry for that..

From my 15 year computer programmer (notice 2x'm') experience, I've noticed that Macs "always work". At least more so than PC counterparts. With Mac, most things work out of the box. Therefore I would suggest Mac for anyone, new or experienced if you want to keep it simple.

Also, If you want, you can get a command shell and work the Mac as it would be a Linux box as Mac OS X is built upon FreeBSD, a unix-like OS.

But it you only need a computer for gaming, I'd go PC. Atleas this year..


Macs are good for developers and people who do photo/music/video editing (or so I heard).

For people who just want to browse the Internet and do word processing, I fail to understand how mac is better. There's no such thing as "it just works" with such trivial tasks, it's just as effortless to do them on Windows (Yes, I've used both Macs and Windows extensively in the past, and MS Office on Windows >> MS Office on Mac). The problem with Windows is that people get overzealous with the plethora of applications and fuck themselves over...

edit:

p.s. ThinkPads are great non-mac laptops: very durable and similar specs would only cost about 2/3 of the price. Naturally, you have the freedom to upgrade your hardware and switch to Linux should you want to.


If you make your living fixing computers then you love PC's because they require a whole lot more fixing than macs.
Grond
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
599 Posts
July 14 2010 20:06 GMT
#253
On July 14 2010 21:15 Piy wrote:
Mac's are for people who have more money than knowledge about computers. That's not a terribly judgmental thing to say, it's just something to bear in mind.



That is a bit like saying Camaros are for people that know about cars and Mercedes are for people that have more money than knowledge. There is more to it than that. The 3 main things are the OS/software, build quality, and support. If what you want do to with the machine can only be done with PC or Mac software than that's end of story. If you get a PC with the same quality hardware and support than the price is similar to a Mac. With PC's you have the option of getting cheap hardware and support from India but I wouldn't recommend it.
Grond
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
599 Posts
July 14 2010 20:36 GMT
#254
On July 14 2010 23:07 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2010 22:25 Craton wrote:
Or it could be that Macs come with better tools for editing graphics/video and have that as pretty much their only worthwhile purpose?

If you're going to hate on Macs, at least do it right.

I think even that's too general. Final Cut Pro or certain music editing software, probably yes. I know someone that does professional animation with After Effects and their company's older PCs render faster than the newer Macs. I can't recall the specs off the top of my head, but everyone prefers working on the PCs.


There must be something wrong with their setup. Just the instruction set optimizations on newer CPUs would give the newer machines a huge advantage. Also recent generations of software scale linearly with processors and its far easier to get an 8 core Mac than PC.
ckw
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1018 Posts
July 14 2010 22:49 GMT
#255
I am working with three people right now and there hard drives all died after about 1-3 years! This is on a mac. PC's for me please. The mac for work story doesn't work anymore either because those work programs are mostly available for pc's too now.
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 00:55:16
July 15 2010 00:54 GMT
#256
On July 15 2010 07:49 ckw wrote:
I am working with three people right now and there hard drives all died after about 1-3 years! This is on a mac. PC's for me please. The mac for work story doesn't work anymore either because those work programs are mostly available for pc's too now.


sigh
did you know neither apple nor companies like dell/hp make their harddrives? hell, they get their hdd's from the same damn manufacturer. look up reliability of the specific harddrives used instead.

Also, congrats on your purchase Mykill! Hope it works well for you
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LetMeShine
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
979 Posts
July 15 2010 02:45 GMT
#257
On July 15 2010 05:06 Grond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2010 21:15 Piy wrote:
Mac's are for people who have more money than knowledge about computers. That's not a terribly judgmental thing to say, it's just something to bear in mind.



That is a bit like saying Camaros are for people that know about cars and Mercedes are for people that have more money than knowledge. There is more to it than that. The 3 main things are the OS/software, build quality, and support. If what you want do to with the machine can only be done with PC or Mac software than that's end of story. If you get a PC with the same quality hardware and support than the price is similar to a Mac. With PC's you have the option of getting cheap hardware and support from India but I wouldn't recommend it.


If we're talking about laptops, Asus is actually very good at what they do with build quality and support. If we're talking about desktops, you clearly have no clue whatsoever since guys like EVGA and Corsair offer simply amazing customer support and they're actually around the same price as the competition.

You can get a i5 750 desktop with a good case and basically the top of the line parts (EVGA, Corsair, G.Skill, Antec, etc) for less than $900 USD.,,the price isn't remotely similar to a iMac even when you factor in a IPS screen. Not to mention you can reuse the monitor, case, power supply, and video card if you need to upgrade.
Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 03:25:36
July 15 2010 03:24 GMT
#258
On July 15 2010 00:04 LetMeShine wrote:
Macs will never match the PC for gaming until all developers shift from PC to Mac. The thing holding Macs in the gaming department are the drivers and sine you're a developer with 15 years experience, you should know how hard it is to develop good drivers and how expensive it is.


I was under the impression that DirectX as a defacto standard rather than OpenGL was a bigger issue holding devs back than drivers. Not to say drivers aren't an issue in the slightest.


On July 15 2010 00:05 futoM4ki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2010 22:25 Craton wrote:
Or it could be that Macs come with better tools for editing graphics/video and have that as pretty much their only worthwhile purpose?

If you're going to hate on Macs, at least do it right.


I don´t hate Macs, I hate Mac users. Especially that kind of users, who pin that Apple decal on the back of there cars to tell the whole world how ahead and elite they are. Those who keep telling me how much better the battery in MacBooks are. Does Apple produce there own lithium-ion batterys? Of course they don´t.
I´am just so sick of people parrotting nonsense arguments and 80% of all Mac users seem to do so -____-

Show nested quote +
On July 14 2010 23:00 sushi.oi.zz wrote:
if your're not a huge gamer, i think personally the operating system for mac is >>>>>>>>>>>>> pc.


Why? Why do you think MacOS is a better OS then every Windows or Linux distribution on the market? Have you ever used any Linux distribution? Can even tell the difference between Linux and Unix without google/wikipedia?
I rly don´t want to offend you, but what makes you qualified to tell that "the operating system for mac is >>>>>>>>>>>>> pc"?
Why should I run my webserver on MacOS? Why should I develop my website/photoshop-plugin/software on MacOS? Why should I render my 3d Animations on a Mac and not on a much more powerfull PC?
There are dozens of non-gaming-related applications, where the PC is equal or even much better.


Why should I run my webserver on MacOS?

I don't know if anyone in the thread recommended running their web servers on OSX. If you're talking about a local dev server, then yeah I prefer that to windows because of the environment's similarity to the OS of the server I'm going to be pushing to for production.

Why should I develop my website/photoshop-plugin/software on MacOS?

I can't speak for photoshop-plugin and I lack the beyond-student experience for software dev, but for web dev it's a combination of the similarity between production and dev environments, and the suite of software I have available on OSX. For example textmate is something I can't live without for web dev nowadays and there is nothing that compares on the PC or linux (I have tried, very hard, to find an equal alternative).

Why should I render my 3d Animations on a Mac and not on a much more powerful PC?

I only have PC experience with 3D work, so I don't feel I can answer this question. My impression is that for 3D work they're much the same.
Their are four errors in this sentance.
Grond
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
599 Posts
July 15 2010 04:41 GMT
#259
On July 15 2010 11:45 LetMeShine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 05:06 Grond wrote:
On July 14 2010 21:15 Piy wrote:
Mac's are for people who have more money than knowledge about computers. That's not a terribly judgmental thing to say, it's just something to bear in mind.



That is a bit like saying Camaros are for people that know about cars and Mercedes are for people that have more money than knowledge. There is more to it than that. The 3 main things are the OS/software, build quality, and support. If what you want do to with the machine can only be done with PC or Mac software than that's end of story. If you get a PC with the same quality hardware and support than the price is similar to a Mac. With PC's you have the option of getting cheap hardware and support from India but I wouldn't recommend it.


If we're talking about laptops, Asus is actually very good at what they do with build quality and support. If we're talking about desktops, you clearly have no clue whatsoever since guys like EVGA and Corsair offer simply amazing customer support and they're actually around the same price as the competition.

You can get a i5 750 desktop with a good case and basically the top of the line parts (EVGA, Corsair, G.Skill, Antec, etc) for less than $900 USD.,,the price isn't remotely similar to a iMac even when you factor in a IPS screen. Not to mention you can reuse the monitor, case, power supply, and video card if you need to upgrade.



You can't get a desktop with those parts, you can build a desktop with those parts. Huge difference.
Ndugu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1078 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 04:59:42
July 15 2010 04:57 GMT
#260
I don't really see why this is such a debate.

Mac hardware is incredibly overpriced. It's usually around 1.5x what the equivalent parts would cost in a PC. That is being very generous. A while back a new Macbook line launched and I got a Asus laptop with the same exact specs as the Macbook Pro (slightly better videocard), and with blu-ray. It cost around $1000 versus $2000.

That being said, its usually very high build quality, at least aesthetically. It also uses a fisher-price operating system that some love.

If you think the OS and aesthetics are worth having a worse computer for your money, go for it. If you're debating that Macs aren't really overpriced, you're factually wrong and a fanboy.
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