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On June 12 2010 10:53 st3roids wrote:
I recently bought ( well not so recently around 6 months but nvm)
An i7 + ati 5870 + 8 giga ram @1880mhz + HD 500gb + coolmaster haf + 24inch lg monitor + gigabyte ga 58 ud5p for less than 1500 euro which curently should be like 1700 dollars.
to get a mac like that you will need like 5k , is just fancy overhyped overpriced products which thanx to public ignorance about pcs in general + plus great marketing + steve jobs manage to be currently no1 in stock market even bypassing microsoft.
Do they worth the money ? absolutely not , get a pc which you will make by ur self not a premade one .
I'm typing this on a PC I built with a Intel Quad core running at 3.6 Ghz, 8GB of RAM and a heavily overclocked Gigabyte 4890 running Windows 7. Next to it is a HP Proliant Quad core Xeon with 8GB of RAM running Server 2008. Also in this room is an Athlon 2600 I built running XP and a dual Celeron 400 running NT4, not too mention several PC's in the closet I prefer not to think about. That said Macs are fantastic machines and you get what you pay for. There are reasons why a PC can be a better choice but to dismiss people buying them due to ignorance is the pot calling the kettle black.
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PC definitely, you will get more for your money, but don't just buy any old PC you see, stay away from EMACHINE if you know whats good for you.
Edit: Also I laughed when you said "under 1000$ please." PC's are not quite that expensive unless you want a gaming machine.
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I have recently been asked the same question as the OP, because my sister is going to uni after the summer and she plans on buying a laptop. I was recommending her to buy a PC, because it's simply a better deal for the same price, as well as no need to adapt to a new interface (we've been using PC since our first desktop).
However the major question is that she is going to the arts uni in London to study fashion jewellry and she is worried that she might need mac. However is a mac really essential for anyone except graphic designers, musicians composing music and photoshop specialists? I have never had experience with real mac users (by real I mean those who could NOT do their job without a mac), as all mac users I know are apple fans, just because it's apple...
Can anyone enlighten me on this subject? Any TL members in arts unies?
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There are a lot of reasons for buying a mac but sadly most people buy them for the wrong reasons.
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^precisely.
i would get a mac only to showoff.
"hey guys lookie i has got myself a stylish imba macintosh, u still stucked wif dat windows crap?"
tbh im never convinced about a mac's performance, but it just looks so cool that most people just blindly get em.
imagine a successful businessman carrying a windows lap, and then imagine that same man holding a macbook. the impression you get changes drastically .
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On July 14 2010 19:53 Fenris wrote:
I have recently been asked the same question as the OP, because my sister is going to uni after the summer and she plans on buying a laptop. I was recommending her to buy a PC, because it's simply a better deal for the same price, as well as no need to adapt to a new interface (we've been using PC since our first desktop).
However the major question is that she is going to the arts uni in London to study fashion jewellry and she is worried that she might need mac. However is a mac really essential for anyone except graphic designers, musicians composing music and photoshop specialists? I have never had experience with real mac users (by real I mean those who could NOT do their job without a mac), as all mac users I know are apple fans, just because it's apple...
Can anyone enlighten me on this subject? Any TL members in arts unies?
I am not in art uni but I have a friend in Israel that works in web design and graphics design (started his own company when he was 15) and for him he feels it is totally justifiable to dish out 2000+ on a mac just for the image it gives him when he meets with his client. If you work in any design field I believe a Mac is a good investment as it will give a positive reflection of your design taste.
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On July 14 2010 20:31 Katsuge wrote:
^precisely.
i would get a mac only to showoff.
"hey guys lookie i has got myself a stylish imba macintosh, u still stucked wif dat windows crap?"
tbh im never convinced about a mac's performance, but it just looks so cool that most people just blindly get em.
imagine a successful businessman carrying a windows lap, and then imagine that same man holding a macbook. the impression you get changes drastically .
Yeah, my impression would be "heh, he's a pretentious douche who doesn't know much about computers". Really. I know that there are advantages to a mac, but please, they improve your 'look' about as much as an ipod does.
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I have not read this thread, but here is what I did and thoughts for the future.
I always buy Mac. I come from Linux world so it is an easy decision. I installed SC2 on Win7 that was bootcamped on my Macbook Pro (old generation, model before the black keyboard, still good GPU (512MB i think) and 4GB RAM). But I had issues with overheating when in Bootcamp mode.
So I bought a middle class PC laptop (Samsung) with 1GB GPU and i5 processor, just for SC2 gaming. I like the idea with laptop so I can bring it to LAN etc.. I hook my laptop to my LCD TV and run SC2 in Full HD (HDMI, n/a for Mac btw) with High grapichs settings. Runs find I think.
My brother has a new generation Macbook Pro. He bought it for SC2 gaming when we got our beta keys. SC2 runs fine in win7 bootcamp. He is pleased with it.. It is good enough!
We are both planning to buy stationary computers when we move to bigger apartments  Guess in time for the second release of SC2. (I guess it will be a Mac that runs Win in bootcamp unless Blizzard fixes all issues with SC2 for native Mac)
I would not run SC2 with native Mac OS at the moment.
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As a long time mac user, currently having 2008 MacBook Pro 15' i would suggest Mac laptop anytime if you can afford the extra cost for it. Saying that i'm myself getting PC gaming laptop mostly because there isn't good Mac laptop below 1600-1800 (meaning that it actually has a GPU, not some crappy integrated one) and no way i can afford that extra 500-700. And i suggest getting Applecare after the first year because if something happens (GPU overheats come in mind) it's going to be very costly without it, and with it you have a good chance of getting upgrade to your laptop, they just put new Motherboard in it instead of replacing one part. And the new chassis for the MBP has imo very good fans and the chassis doesn't get that hot, but you need some fancontrol program to get the fans running before it hits 60+ degrees.
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Mac's are for people who have more money than knowledge about computers. That's not a terribly judgmental thing to say, it's just something to bear in mind.
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I encourage you to egt a PC laptop:
I have an iMac by myself, it is about as good as those new macbook pro's.
I thought it would be a good idea to buy a mac since i had the money and didn't want crashes. But i use it for gaming and stuff. What i experienced is that you pay extra for the names mac and apple on your side and the design of apple, which is unique and cool. But PC's are just more cost-efficient. You get more processor power, better graphics and all in all a better product for the same price.
BUY A PC!
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If you have enough to spend and up for something new try a Macbook. You won't be disappointed. I wouldn't recommend anyone a Mac for desktop, but for a laptop it's a really solid pick. Of course it depends on what you want to do with it.
I don't know why you'd not be able to run iTunes, Safari & MSN together. Macs aren't prehistoric machines or way behind Laptops or whatsoever. You can find lotsa cheap laptops but if you want a laptop which actually has some design to it and a solid casing (rather than some cheap ass stuff that 80% of the world has) then you'll be getting closer to the prices of a Mac too.
If you have an iPod etc. I guess making a step to a Macbook will get a lot easier. But in the end it comes down to what you really want to do with it. If you want to play games on your laptop you might want to look into something different. Any laptop with a good gfx card won't be cheap though.
Instead of asking yourself Mac or PC? You should probably make a pick first on what kind of model you'd buy if you were to buy a Macbook, see if it can handle whatever you like, see how competitive PC Laptops are in the same or lesser price range, and go from there.
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MAC - overpriced laptop because it has the apple logo
laptop(hp or any other) - cheap, fast, huge huge archive of software, generally longer battery life than apple(win7 vs macOS).
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Netherlands273 Posts
Mac is only for apple fan. It is weaker than PC with win 7 OS in every aspects
if you are not a big fan, why choose Mac ?
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On July 14 2010 21:15 Piy wrote:
Mac's are for people who have more money than knowledge about computers. That's not a terribly judgmental thing to say, it's just something to bear in mind.
THIS!
I´m in the same university department like the information scientists. Why is there, in the whole electrical engineering and information technology faculty, not one(!) single person using one of this elite Uber computers called MacBook?
And why is it used by almost every person studying things like "design" and all that other cool and stylish fashion folk?
Hmmmm, guess computer scientists know nothing about computers. They rly should care much more about product placement!
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Or it could be that Macs come with better tools for editing graphics/video and have that as pretty much their only worthwhile purpose?
If you're going to hate on Macs, at least do it right.
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i mean if you're not a HUGE gamer, then get a MAC. i mean, they're purty fast and all, and the results of your poll will most definitely be skewed. I mean you're on a forum of gamers, so obviously most people are going to say pc. if your're not a huge gamer, i think personally the operating system for mac is >>>>>>>>>>>>> pc.
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On July 14 2010 22:25 Craton wrote:
Or it could be that Macs come with better tools for editing graphics/video and have that as pretty much their only worthwhile purpose?
If you're going to hate on Macs, at least do it right.
I think even that's too general. Final Cut Pro or certain music editing software, probably yes. I know someone that does professional animation with After Effects and their company's older PCs render faster than the newer Macs. I can't recall the specs off the top of my head, but everyone prefers working on the PCs.
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